He's the least of our worries. Basically set up the goal with his movement and had a good chance saved from a header out of nothing. There's absolutely feck all going on behind him and he's got nothing to work on.
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Yeah. Wasn't good but also not even close to one of our problems at the moment.
Playing both him and Rooney is just not going to work. Question is how many more points will we drop before mourinho realises this.
Seems to escape quite a lot of criticism, in comparison to some players. Always looks dangerous in the box, i'd give him that, but other than that, doesn't offer much to me. Nearly always offside, never gets in front of his man, dwells on the ball, doesn't hold it. These are all the aspects of his game I thought he'd be a lot better at.
It's Mourinho's fault. If you've watched Zlatan at all the past five years you'd know he plays the best when he drops deep and orchestrates the attacks. He did that, what, three times today? Every time something happened and he created the goal. Mourinho persisting to select Rooney is the problem, not Zlatan.
Had a few good moments, and pretty much forced our only goal. Without any service all he can manage is some nice link-up play.
He is not used correctly. He should be played in a more influential role, his time as a a true striker was over years ago. Mourinho has failed here again.
This.
He sure does miss a lot of chances.
Problem is, no one here has, so most posters will write utter nonsense.
Playing him as a 9 on the shoulder of a defender is a complete waste. When they've got giant defenders too his size is negated. He should be dropping into the 10 and start playing football, he should be the link up man. We need rashford down the middle to make forward runs and break the line. Right now it's just not working.
Ibra has had scraps to work on lately and we are never going to score with half chances.
Ibra has had scraps to work on lately and we are never going to score with half chances.
I thought he at least looked up for it unlike a bunch of our other players, having said that he is not Aguero or Suarez who can press and harry defense into errors, and with no real legs supporting him he's starting look isolated and frustrated.
When he comes deeper and passes quick, we look a threat.
Given how bad the service was I don't think he was that bad. Snatched a bit at that half volley but there are much bigger issues in the team *cough Rooney cough*
I know.
And that's a problem when you are not at PSG.
He comes at a price. Not because he misses chances but because he is static. When you put non-mobile players like Rooney and Fellaini behind him, the price becomes big.
He's one of those strikers who will be shit if the support cast behind him is shit. He's not an Augero or Suarez that can beat players on his own and win the game.
The problem isn't with Zlatan tbh. He'l fire goals when the support cast actually start playing like proper footballers.
The problem isn't with Zlatan tbh. He'l fire goals when the support cast actually start playing like proper footballers.
Does anyone else see the irony in us playing on the counter and using our slowest player as a target while playing our 2 quickest striker out of position as wingers ?
And yet he created our only goal. Do one.
He's generally been ok but the idea that we can try and win the league with a 35 year old or an 18 year old as our only options at number 9 is looking increasingly wrong-headed.
Yeah we aren't playing to his strengths but he's not helping himself either by being a bit shit when he actually gets the ball. He's been crap the last few matches, but I think he'll come good when we actually figure out what the feck we're supposed to be doing out there.
Sure. And we should expect him to carry the others to a large degree, that's why we got him. But it's not easy when everyone else is underperforming as well. You kind of get dragged into it.
It's so frustrating for me to see Mourinho using him like a targetman. If he could just drop deep every time and get the ball, at all times, we'd be much better. It's so easy for me to see this having followed his whole career. Pogba would benefit from it as well. We're on the right track playing two speedy wingers, the application is unfortunately all wrong at the moment.
Yes. Playing on the counter against Watford is the problem in itself though
Spot on.
Aduriz has been one of the best strikers in Spain for the last couple of years, despite his age. Similar to Ibrahimovic age has nothing to do with it. We just need better support offensively and actually playing as an unit would be a good start.
It's hard when we isolate him up front and then when he comes back he runs into Rooney.
The least of our problem, we have a great player and we're resorting to use as some sort of Peter Crouch.... Cavani was a inconsistent finisher but he worked so well with Ibra because they both completed each other's football. Rooney isn't mobile nor instinctive enough to play with him.
Would you recommend Cavani to United?
No because at the moment buying new players isn't going to change anything at all. We've thrown by the window for years now, I cannot understand that this set of players we have, cannot do better. I just know one thing, Rooney and Zlatan in the same team is really handicapping yourself so the worse player has to be on the bench and we all know who he is.
Well is there a way we can get him into the game more because at the moment he's not doing enough.
Yes there is, just have to look closer at how things were working for him at Milan and PSG. We know he can still score goals, we know he loves to come pick up the ball and create movements. So let's play him with fast players and let's work on it during training sessions.
I'm talking about training sessions because I'm convinced that we do absolutely feck all in terms of attacking play during training, our players cannot look clueless like that after intense training or something is truly wrong
Encourage off the ball runs and availability for passes, for instance if Valencia has the ball and is facing 1 or 2 players, have others making runs to open up some space. I mean some basic football we're not even applying at the moment. We love to isolate our players like this sport is basketball.
Agree. The fact is that we don't have anyone that is better than Ibra up there in the squad
Martial worked well as a winger last season. And if utilized right even Ibra can work in that kind of playing.
Everyone is going on about Rooney, but Zlatan was awful in the last 3 games. He is slow, not involved and loses the ball very often.
So sure, you can say it is Ronney's fault, but he did not play on Thursday.
I am not sure what Mou's orders are, but Zlatan dropping deep and Rooney even deeper does not work. And only blaming Rooney is not the solution.
By the way, this doesn't mean that Rooney is free from any blame, but this is the Zlatan thread
So sure, you can say it is Ronney's fault, but he did not play on Thursday.
I am not sure what Mou's orders are, but Zlatan dropping deep and Rooney even deeper does not work. And only blaming Rooney is not the solution.
By the way, this doesn't mean that Rooney is free from any blame, but this is the Zlatan thread
Plus, he misses a lot of chances...
He is playing as a target man that we need to hoof the balls on to, instead of playing him as a creative striker.
The link-up play with Rashford to score the goal was good. I thought we would get more of that with Zlatan, but him and Rooney just doesn't work at all. We should play Rashford up top with Zlatan and see how that goes, I think they could be good together.
He and Rooney should never play together(Rooney not at all).
Then the problem is compounded further with Fellaini and Mata in the team.
We're using Ibra like fecking Crouch. Yes he can play better, but constant hoof balls to him? I don't understand.
Then the problem is compounded further with Fellaini and Mata in the team.
We're using Ibra like fecking Crouch. Yes he can play better, but constant hoof balls to him? I don't understand.
Wasnt a shock that we scored with him dropping to get the ball, driving forward and having Rashford in the box (in the centre).
We hardly seemed to do that after making it 1-1 which was baffling.
We hardly seemed to do that after making it 1-1 which was baffling.
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