[SirScholes]

Martial should have been brought on to replace him after 60 mins. With Rasford and Martial stretching the defensive line, and Pogba and Rooney behind pulling the strings we would have had a better chance scoring.

Personally martial or rashford should of started or came on after 15 minutes for lingard

 

[Hal9000]

That one towards the 2nd half... where it was pretty much open goal and he fluffed it.

Everything was rushed today, kept taking snapped chances when sometimes he had time.

 

[Offside]

I find his goalscoring is still immense but he can struggle to keep up with the pace sometimes in his link up play. After that 4 years holiday in France, I can understand it.

 

[Van Piorsing]

Did his job as a striker but not exactly done his Zlatan part.

 

[Perrick Dubois]

Really bummed that he rushed a few of his chances today. A couple he could have composed himself and created a goal. Especially the one right after the goal. He is glacially slow though, I think that is a bit of a hinderance in the short term. Though he still looks like he can pull a goal out of nothing which is an important characteristic to have.

 

[The United]

It is hard to fault a striker when they get some goal but I thought he was meh overall for our expectation. Typical zlatan's performance in big games.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

Missed a few chances though I'm still at the stage where it's nice that we have a striker who misses chances.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Hit the target! it didn't go for a corner the tame header back at the keeper the chance with an open goal! Not.listening to arguments where he should of been given a shout if you've played football at any level you should know your immediate surroundings or at least strike the ball properly!
He had two chances around the box with a fellaini flick on, not one on one but at this level if we want to believe he is world class (which I consider him) then it's a chance. The goal was also a chance that he took

Essentially that's three chances which you're trying to make out to be more. The gist of your argument seems to be that "every shot a top player takes=a chance". Ronaldo must be the worst chance taker ever, then.

 

[Natener]

Don't know what to make of Zlatan today. He brought us back into a game that looked like it was totally running away from us. His goal lifted the crowd and gave us real chance going into the break. Beyond that, he was poor and squandered us a few chances to actually level the game.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Can we just have a moment of appreciation for how good that finish was though.... That was truly world class and I'm not sure there's many players in the world putting that away in the manor he did .

Disappointed in that chance after that though, if he takes just another touch it's a goal for sure.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

On another day he wins us this game.

 

[SirScholes]

Essentially that's three chances which you're trying to make out to be more. The gist of your argument seems to be that "every shot a top player takes=a chance". Ronaldo must be the worst chance taker ever, then.

You've put a quote in there that I haven't said once he has 9 shots I believe and no not all 9 were good chances, those were chances for a top player yes if you want to be labelled a top class player you need to be hitting the target.
There were a load of times he took shots with 3/4 players in front of him that I haven't included.
Ball bouncing on his strong side edge of the box, if he isn't counting that as a chance he shouldn't be here.
A chance 6 yards out, an open goal and a free header, there is nothing being over played there, that's without talking about the zero chances he created for anyone

 

[facund]

Cracking finish but otherwise a bit poor. His passing seems a bit lazy at times making it too easy to get picked off. Lets see if he can adapt to the tempo of the PL and whether that improves.

 

[manunajted]

People are so clueless on here.

The guy scores, against a bigger team as well, and still some say he doesn't perform against bigger teams. Lmfao.

Yeah the guy didn't have his best fecking game, but he is our best player and without him we wouldn't even compete against teams like City.

Rashford didn't do shit at all, Pogba was slow and barely visible, Miki shouldn't even be talked about after his performance.

But yeah, lets bash Zlatan, the only player who actually did something, even though the support from the midfield was pretty much non existent.

 

[The Stain]

It's all Rooney's fault.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

You've put a quote in there that I haven't said once he has 9 shots I believe and no not all 9 were good chances, those were chances for a top player yes if you want to be labelled a top class player you need to be hitting the target.
There were a load of times he took shots with 3/4 players in front of him that I haven't included.
Ball bouncing on his strong side edge of the box, if he isn't counting that as a chance he shouldn't be here.
A chance 6 yards out, an open goal and a free header, there is nothing being over played there, that's without talking about the zero chances he created for anyone

What? Strikers aren't allowed to have a go anymore? How do you think Ibra scores so many worldies? By trying a lot of things of course.

So like I said three good chances and one goal.

 

[manunajted]

You've put a quote in there that I haven't said once he has 9 shots I believe and no not all 9 were good chances, those were chances for a top player yes if you want to be labelled a top class player you need to be hitting the target.
There were a load of times he took shots with 3/4 players in front of him that I haven't included.
Ball bouncing on his strong side edge of the box, if he isn't counting that as a chance he shouldn't be here.
A chance 6 yards out, an open goal and a free header, there is nothing being over played there, that's without talking about the zero chances he created for anyone

Free header is bullshit, and zero chances created? You didn't see Rooney the Rooney chances did you?

Come on man, get in the game ffs.

 

[SirScholes]

People are so clueless on here.

The guy scores, against a bigger team as well, and still some say he doesn't perform against bigger teams. Lmfao.

Yeah the guy didn't have his best fecking game, but he is our best player and without him we wouldn't even compete against teams like City.

Rashford didn't do shit at all, Pogba was slow and barely visible, Miki shouldn't even be talked about after his performance.

But yeah, lets bash Zlatan, the only player who actually did something, even though the support from the midfield was pretty much non existent.

This is a joke surely, rashford put a chance on a plate for him and gave our attack some edge.
Nah sorry not even worse continuing too much nonsense in your post

 

[Jed I. Knight]

People are so clueless on here.

The guy scores, against a bigger team as well, and still some say he doesn't perform against bigger teams. Lmfao.

Yeah the guy didn't have his best fecking game, but he is our best player and without him we wouldn't even compete against teams like City.

Rashford didn't do shit at all, Pogba was slow and barely visible, Miki shouldn't even be talked about after his performance.

But yeah, lets bash Zlatan, the only player who actually did something, even though the support from the midfield was pretty much non existent.

You're overreacting to other people's entirely sensible reactions, which for the most part are that he should have done more. Which he should have.

 

[SirScholes]

Free header is bullshit, and zero chances created? You didn't see Rooney the Rooney chances did you?

Come on man, get in the game ffs.

That last sentence should be directed at zlatan, it's not either head it too a team mate or down in the corner not cushion it to the keeper, how many times did he test bravo? 3 on target I think? Maybe? An open goal a soft header and the goal, now tot up the times he skied it?
Like I say he is a great player but today he was shite 9 shots! Only one worth labelling as a good one

 

[The Stain]

You're overreacting to other people's entirely sensible reactions, which for the most part are that he should have done more. Which he should have.

Slight over reactions, sure. He should have scored before half time and that was poor but what exactly did the other attackers contribute in this game?

 

[sammsky1]

Disappointed by him today. Had enough chances for a hattrick

 

[SirScholes]

What? Strikers aren't allowed to have a go anymore? How do you think Ibra scores so many worldies? By trying a lot of things of course.

So like I said three good chances and one goal.

feck me read the post before getting excited for you're reply, I'm saying it was a good chance that he should of been hitting the target with

 

[ash_86]

Zlatan will score loads against all smaller teams, but against very best sides will not have major impact. Couldn't keep up with the pace of the game toay. We may need a WC forward next summer.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

feck me read the post before getting excited for you're reply, I'm saying it was a good chance that he should of been hitting the target with

Your.

What was a good chance? The one where the defender was stood infront of him and blocked the shot? He had three good chances from what I recall:

1) The one where he scored.
2) The header straight at the GK.
3) The piss easy one where he just had to beat a defender on the line.

 

[The Stain]

Zlatan will score loads against all smaller teams, but against very best sides will not have major impact. Couldn't keep up with the pace of the game toay. We may need a WC forward next summer.

Sigh.

 

[ZDwyr]

Good goal. Really nice finish. Other than that he was not very good unfortunately. He wasn't alone, but I expect a little bit better.

 

[Irrational.]

I think he'd be better as a sub coming off the bench. Doesn't have the legs to start a high-octane game like this.

I miss the days where we had Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez closing down from the front. We could've made Bravo's day much more uncomfortable.

 

[The United]

Every striker tends to have a few good chances per game. When Ronaldo and Messi score a goal a game you think they have just the one good chance all game? Ibra had three good chances from what I recall and he scored one. That's a good rate even though he gets big negative marks for the one where the keeper was out of the way and he should have scored. But what were these other three great chances??

In fact, I'm grateful we have him today, because with shit on a stick football like that the only way you're going to score is if you have a striker like him uptop strick a beauty like he did for the first goal.

He wasn't great, but at his age he does need support and that was shocking today.

Eh messi and ronaldo are a different level to him.

Zlatan signing was like lets sign someone big name then realized oh shit it will be hard with him with the way we want to play.

I don't know how we can play counter attack with Zlatan in the middle playing like this while our wing play is still shit with 2 no 10 playing inside forwards on the right.

IF we have to bring his age excuse, why bother playing him all game then.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Im trying to work out if Ibra's lack of movement and over all involvement in the game is balanced out by his general lethalness infront of goal!

would we be a better team if we had a striker who could contribute more to the team but wasn't as world class when they get the chance....

one minute i'm on one side of the argument the next the other....

 

[SirScholes]

Your.

What was a good chance? The one where the defender was stood infront of him and blocked the shot? He had three good chances from what I recall:

1) The one where he scored.
2) The header straight at the GK.
3) The piss easy one where he just had to beat a defender on the line.

Mate grow up with that auto correct stuff please its boring and contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.
He had the chance 6 yards out and the chance on the edge of the box from fellainis flick add that to your chances make 5 he had a sixth that right now I can't recall well enough to discribe but as also edge of the box.
If had hit the target I'd be ok but I'm pretty sure they are still in orbit half the shots.
Good player shit performance

 

[NK86]

Your.

What was a good chance? The one where the defender was stood infront of him and blocked the shot? He had three good chances from what I recall:

1) The one where he scored.
2) The header straight at the GK.
3) The piss easy one where he just had to beat a defender on the line.

The last one was something I felt even then would come back to haunt us. He had so much time and space. He just didn't realize it.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Mate grow up with that auto correct stuff please its boring and contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.
He had the chance 6 yards out and the chance on the edge of the box from fellainis flick add that to your chances make 5 he had a sixth that right now I can't recall well enough to discribe but as also edge of the box.
If had hit the target I'd be ok but I'm pretty sure they are still in orbit half the shots.
Good player shit performance

The chance 6 yards out had a defender flung in between the him and the goal. Not sure what he's supposed to do about that. Ibra can do a lot of things but telekinesis is beyond even him.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

The last one was something I felt even then would come back to haunt us. He had so much time and space. He just didn't realize it.

Yep. That was really poor. Had so much time to take a shot and hammer it.

 

[JaffyJoe]

Great technique for his goal but aside from that poor.

 

[Dobbs]

It's funny how the result of the game colours the perception of a players performance.

He was very similar today to the other three league games. A bit sloppy on the ball, not much running in behind the defenders but produced a moment of quality.

If we win that type of of performance gets overrated, if we lose it suddenly gets criticised.

 

[izec]

Mou needs to manage him better in the future, i can see this ending up wit Zlatan palying every game until he is knackered and totally shite. Give him a rest and play Rashford/Martial/Rooney up top. So far it wast a big problem, but it will be another undroppable and slow player with Rooney is not good for our game

 

[Varun]

Mou needs to manage him better in the future, i can see this ending up wit Zlatan palying every game until he is knackered and totally shite. Give him a rest and play Rashford/Martial/Rooney up top. So far it wast a big problem, but it will be another undroppable and slow player with Rooney is not good for our game

It has nothing to do with him being tired, that's how he plays.

 

[izec]

It has nothing to do with him being tired, that's how he plays.

Not today, just saying in a few months. Mou doesnt rotate much, especially such big names. I was happy with him, scored and had chances, what can you expect more.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

It's funny how the result of the game colours the perception of a players performance.

He was very similar today to the other three league games. A bit sloppy on the ball, not much running in behind the defenders but produced a moment of quality.

If we win that type of of performance gets overrated, if we lose it suddenly gets criticised.

spot on, good post.