Yohan Cabaye

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He's better than Motta who's 31. Matuidi is out of contract in the summer, and does not look like he'll be signing another and Vettatti is still young.

He also gives them an option of playing 2 in midfield, especially since Cavani has been kicking up a fuss about being played out wide.

I'm gutted he didn't not come here. Maybe 28 but i think he's very underated. Very versitle midfielder.
 
For a 19m fee, not a bad signing to be honest. For me though I'd say if he is at a big club, he would probably be a fairly regular component but not one of the stand out players. I think we are right not to go for him because we still have Carrick (albeit he is getting older), Fellaini who I really hope will improve (he can't get much worse, but I feel he could be a regular without raising eye brows if he reaches somewhere near his Everton form) Cleverley as a decent squad option if he improves to his level he has previously been at, and Fletcher and Jones who can still do an energetic job.

I think what we need to buy is one stand out, world class CM - something our team has been craving for years. I can't remember since we had Scholes who was fully fit and able to play week in week out a true world class CM. And that's what we need. So better to save the 20m.
 
If Moyes isn't going for him, must mean he has other players lined up.
 
Not a shot at Moyes or the club but what do the fans who don't rate him thinking of him gonig to PSG. Apparently not good enough for us, a team pushing for Champions League football but he is good enough for a team wanting to lift the Champions League?
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Not a shot at Moyes or the club but what do the fans who don't rate him thinking of him gonig to PSG. Apparently not good enough for us, a team pushing for Champions League football but he is good enough for a team wanting to lift the Champions League?
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Could be a squad player for them, in which case he still isn't good enough for us. I think he is better than Carrick but that we sould save the money for summer which obviously gonna be expensive.
 
Jacob said:
Could be a squad player for them, in which case he still isn't good enough for us. I think he is better than Carrick but that we sould save the money for summer which obviously gonna be expensive.
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True, I take that point but who would you prefer as a squad player at United, Cleverley/Fellaini/40yr old Giggs or Cabaye?
 
Eric'sCollar said:
I am talking about the fans who don't want him. Our fans are saying he isn't good enough for us but PSG think otherwise.
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There are probably some PSG fans who don't want him.

I'm just being argumentative now, sorry.

I guess my point is that he would be a good buy, for the right price. But our version and PSG's version of that are probably very different.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
True, I take that point but who would you prefer as a squad player at United, Cleverley/Fellaini/40yr old Giggs or Cabaye?
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Obviously Cabaye in that case. I guess during a time of transition, you normally go for players that are meant for the first eleven before stocking up on squad players. I don't like the fact that we might turn into a buying club though, two seasons from now Rooney might be the only player who's been at the club for more than 3 years among the front 6 players.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Not a shot at Moyes or the club but what do the fans who don't rate him thinking of him gonig to PSG. Apparently not good enough for us, a team pushing for Champions League football but he is good enough for a team wanting to lift the Champions League?
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Strange post. PSG bought Cabaye to win the champions league?

Why do we care what PSG do? In fact, the fact that he was allowed to leave Newcastle, but only found suitors in PSG goes against the case you're trying to make for him. It's not like he joined Bayern or Barcelona..

Anyway, as I said before, Cabaye would probably improve our midfield, but not sufficiently for the long term. This £25M is definitely better spent somewhere else in the Summer imo. Look at the £28M we already spent on another "not great, but good enough midfielder" in the experiment known as Fellaini. Imagine if we saved that £28M we would have £53M ready in the pocket now to buy somebody who is better than Fellaini and Cabaye.
 
We want to be better than PSG are though. For all their money they aren't as big a club as us and are unlikely to reach the stature we aspire too. I can't see PSG every reaching the same level Bayern are currently at, for example, while we could.

Also, Cabaye might be a squad player there. I think the vast majority would happily have taken him as a squad player here, the doubts were more over whether we'd have room for another squad player and whether the fee we'd have to pay would've been worthwhile.

His nationality has to have been a factor in PSG's interest too, no?
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Not a shot at Moyes or the club but what do the fans who don't rate him thinking of him gonig to PSG. Apparently not good enough for us, a team pushing for Champions League football but he is good enough for a team wanting to lift the Champions League?
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speaking as one of those fans I cannot really say why PSG went for him. They have a different collection of players, play in a much inferior league, might fancy having more home-grown players in their side and they might have problems attracting the absolute best, they are still just a rich man's plaything hoping to become well established. Cannot compare them to United or any of the other major clubs. And to contrast them as somehow better that us, it's worth noting that we're still in the CL and the domestic league ain't over yet.

With regards to Cabaye, I just feel we can do better and should do better. He'd be a good player, but given we've fecked about with midfield forever, if we're going to get serious for once, why not do it properly and go world class in the summer (assuming we can claw ourselves into fourth by the end of the season).
 
He would've been a great short term solution for the rest of this season, and still be at the least an extremely good squad player for the next 3-4 years. He's certainly better than what we have now. Oh well, we seem to be aiming for bigger and better things. Hopefully that materializes.
 
should had signed him last summer instead of fellaini. anyway i'm not sure about signing him now, given the fee would be something like 20million, and we are now hoping to get world class midfielders next summer. unless we offload someone this window of course, and that is most likely to be cleverley.
 
He's already conquered French football, albeit it was just the one season of actual success. So for Cabaye the lure of CL football wouldve been huge. But does he massively improve them? No. Would have have massively improved us? Perhaps short term because the form of our players has been that bad but if we end up with a better player or two in 6-8 months, it doesn't matter.

I don't think we could point our finger directly at a player like Cabaye taking us to 4th. If his stock was as big as say Juan Mata, perhaps we could.

Its also worth noting that PSG are likely to have paid slightly less than what Arsenal or United or any domestic club would probably have had to pay for him...the old out of the country = slightly smaller demands rule.

I've said it before...it was astonishing for me that we didn't go for him in the summer but having already got Fellaini it made very little sense, particularly financially along with Fletcher's return to go for yet another simply decent rather than top class player.
 
ricky-romeo said:
should had signed him last summer instead of fellaini. anyway i'm not sure about signing him now, given the fee would be something like 20million, and we are now hoping to get world class midfielders next summer. unless we offload someone this window of course, and that is most likely to be cleverley.
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Nah, should have signed Herrera and/or McCarthy. Everton got the better player with a better future, and Bilbao retained a solid midfielder. United got a cow pie.
 
Adding a squad player to a midfield of squad players isn't the way forward. Adding top class to those squad players is the requirement here not the other way around.

PSG obviously have more demand for a player in this bracket and that's fair enough.
 
This move looked inevitable for a-few weeks now. Will be a decent squad player for them. Glad we didn't sign him - not that I thought we ever would - now it's a wait until the summer to hopefully get a top class midfielder in.
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
He's already conquered French football, albeit it was just the one season of actual success. So for Cabaye the lure of CL football wouldve been huge. But does he massively improve them? No. Would have have massively improved us? Perhaps short term because the form of our players has been that bad but if we end up with a better player or two in 6-8 months, it doesn't matter.

I don't think we could point our finger directly at a player like Cabaye taking us to 4th. If his stock was as big as say Juan Mata, perhaps we could.

Its also worth noting that PSG are likely to have paid slightly less than what Arsenal or United or any domestic club would probably have had to pay for him...the old out of the country = slightly smaller demands rule.

I've said it before...it was astonishing for me that we didn't go for him in the summer but having already got Fellaini it made very little sense, particularly financially along with Fletcher's return to go for yet another simply decent rather than top class player.
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You think so ? PSG are known to be big spenders so I think club selling clubs to them will always try to get highest possible fee.
 
I think we should have gone for him but pointless getting into a bidding war (that we would never have won) with PSG. One more top bracket CM in the summer (Gundogan or Vidal for example) and our midfield would be miles better than it is at present. I think we still need two because I don't think Fellaini strengthened us in anything but numbers.
 
He's a good player and would've been a good signing short term, that said, I'm sort of pleased in a way that we were never really in for him. By Moyes apparent targets so far he's seemingly far more interested in getting great midfielders for the long term and not just good ones to fix immediate problems. I think we're going to sign a much better player than him in the summer.
 
kouroux said:
You think so ? PSG are known to be big spenders so I think club selling clubs to them will always try to get highest possible fee.
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I'm sure they'll have paid over the odds somewhat but ever so slightly less than a domestic team. Selling him within the league strengthens a rival...Newcastle would surely demand a premium for that alone.
 
Sunny Jim said:
This transfer window is getting better and better. First Mata, then long term contract for Baines and now Cabaye joining PSG. Great news.
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Cabaye at United wouldn't be the end of the world, he's a good player and better than what we have here at the moment. Price is a bit too high mind.
 
Pretty sure Cabaye wanted to move back to France. Nothing to see here really.
 
Sunny Jim said:
This transfer window is getting better and better. First Mata, then long term contract for Baines and now Cabaye joining PSG. Great news.
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Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
 
I think both Baines and Cabaye would have improved us in the short term, but long term we would want someone else and if we waited until the summer we could probably do better. Baines is probably marginally better than Evra but Cabaye is significantly better than any midfielder bar Carrick.

It's a tough call though - obviously top 4 is crucial. Personally I think we will more than cope with Evra if he stays fit for the season, but I still think we could have done with a midfielder and as I've said before we could still have had a fair few years out of Cabaye, who looks like he's only just coming into his prime.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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Why do you have to be such a dick, glaston?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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Yep, cause we'd be better off signing second tier players like Cabaye than genuinely top talent Mata (who's better than any player Spurs have actually).

We'll address midfield issues in the Summer. Cabaye wouldn't be the end of the world but we can and will do better.
 
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