Yohan Cabaye

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sullydnl said:
Ha, we'd still be more than a few signings from having eleven top bracket players. How many did we have when we last won the CL though? Quite a few.



Cabaye would cost more than De Gea and could possibly cost as much as RvP. Not as much as Fellaini though, so there's that.
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So thats why Arsenal bid £10 million and PSG £14 million. He'll cost a few million more than that, thats all.

Of course we should have plans for the CL. Obviously we should take our recovery one step at a time but that doesn't mean our overall standards should drop. We should be looking at competing for PL and CL as soon as we can, not focusing on fourth. We hired a long term manager, we have long term goals, we should make long term signings.
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We need to get back to where we were a year or two ago when it was still amazingly difficult to sign a midfielder who would play for todays Bayern or Barcelona in midfield. We're now far less attractive to those top players we couldnt seem to get in midfield and will have to accept it.



Yes we would. Even without a CL place top players will still believe we're going to be back winning titles relatively quickly, in the same way they'd believe Bayern, Barca or Real would recover too. Did the Mata transfer not show how much spending power and pull we still have? One season without the CL won't change that. People overestimate the damage missing out on fourth would do, we'd still attract top quality.
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We signed a player out of favour being pushed out of the door by Chelsea. All it shows is we had some money and now we have some more creativity. Its not going to send shockwaves down Toni Kroos spine and tell him he'd be making an upwards move trading Bayern for United. Guess what, if our draw becomes money, we'll still be bested comfortably by the other clubs who have relied on that
 
Question for those wanting to sign him. I would guess with carrick, fellaini, cleverley and fletcher...there is only room for one central midfield signing. Would you be happy if that one signing was cabaye? If we buy 2...fair enough...but I doubt we will get 2 midfielders....so I would rather try for vidal if available.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Some of our best signings have been players who are not world class, players who have arrived when there is higher quality out there. It's not just about how good a player is. It's about finding a player that suits the team. Cabaye would do that, he is a natural centre midfielder that can perform a number of duties in the middle of the park.

He is an upgrade on Fellaini and Cleverley, no one will doubt that. In regards to ability on the ball, he is technically better than Fletcher, obviously Fletcher has other strong attributes but we do have to add to the squad regardless.

We still need to bring in a world class midfielder but that doesn't mean we shouldn't add other good footballers to the squad to improve on what we have.
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I rate Cabaye, but his age means that his not going to improve much. If he was 24-25 years old I don't mind splashing 25 mill on him
 
savais said:
Question for those wanting to sign him. I would guess with carrick, fellaini, cleverley and fletcher...there is only room for one central midfield signing. Would you be happy if that one signing was cabaye? If we buy 2...fair enough...but I doubt we will get 2 midfielders....so I would rather try for vidal if available.
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We need two midfield players and I suspect the club will try bring in as much.
 
reelworld said:
I rate Cabaye, but his age means that his not going to improve much. If he was 24-25 years old I don't mind splashing 25 mill on him
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Obviously the fee is the issue and as much as I want him, I agree in not spending too much over the odds but in regards to the quality of the player, he would not only improve our team but our squad in regards to hopefully a few more Champions League games this season.
 
savais said:
Question for those wanting to sign him. I would guess with carrick, fellaini, cleverley and fletcher...there is only room for one central midfield signing. Would you be happy if that one signing was cabaye? If we buy 2...fair enough...but I doubt we will get 2 midfielders....so I would rather try for vidal if available.
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We need 1 to get back to where we were a couple of seasons ago. And then another to compete with some of the best midfields in the world

If we dont get any CMs because we decided we want to wait and then chase Vidal in the summer, we'll predictably got knocked back and end with nothing ala Fabregas anyway, but would it have been worth being a much weaker team in the meantime and losing out on our short term targets for the season - securing CL football.

We simply arent in the situation we were in a year ago where, although our CM was clearly a lot weaker than the other big teams, we still had a fit and on song Carrick we could rely on and in spite of our CM weakness we were still a league winning side.

Now we don't win, can't rely on Carrick as much, arent anywhere near a title race and might finish without champions league football. It would have been nice and effective to sign a good CM before, now its imperative.

Cabaye is a good one, Vidal is a great one. And to attract the best most sought after midfielders in the world we're going to have to come up with a lot better than the current Manchester United. Cabaye can help get us there, so can several midfielders not called Vidal, Kroos or Gundogan. Those are the kinds of names we could attract if we got back to the top, not before.
 
I agree go for cabaye if he is one of two midfielders brought in, or if the club think they cannot lure the top players like vidal or gundogan. But dont think they will get rid if carrick, fellaini, cleverley or fletcher, so I only expect one midfielder to come in.
 
I think he's a really good player. £25mil is a lot though and probably right on the top limit for what I'd consider if it was up to me. £20mil is perfectly reasonable though. £15mil was rather cheeky from PSG.
 
He's not worth £25m...I would pay £12m plus Utd tax, total fee of £18m max.
 
Nate Dogg said:
He's not worth £25m...I would pay £12m plus Utd tax, total fee of £18m max.
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It's not United tax, it's Premiership tax. If he was at an equivalent club to Newcastle in another country, he would probably cost £15m max.

Vidal who is a far superior player and who had a great 10/11 season for Leverkusen, left for Juventus for significantly less money than what Cabaye would cost and he was about 5 years younger at the time.
 
It doesn't matter whether he is worth 25m, or not. It's January and Newcastle don't want to sell! Add to that every man and their dog knows that we need a midfielder which again will drive the price up! If we get this guy I suspect it will be in the region of 20-25m no problem.
 
reelworld said:
I rate Cabaye, but his age means that his not going to improve much. If he was 24-25 years old I don't mind splashing 25 mill on him
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We dont need players who will "improve" - we need players who can step in and do a job now.

I like Cabaye. Very talented technical player - but also has a bit of an edge and a good PL track record. He'd improve us for sure. For me a player who deserves a chance to to step up and play for a top 4 club. I think the fact that the likes of PSG are in for him tells you a lot.
 
We should have got him instead of the big microphone in the summer. But now this ship has sailed because there's really no need to sign more squad players. We don't want another Ashley Young situation.
 
Personallly I would be delighted with Cabaye.He's a short-ish term fix but we need player in the middle who is mature and capable of making an instant impact.He fits the bill and in the summer we can add to him with someone younger with world class potential.
 
I'd take him over no one right now. I have no doubt Moyes will try and get a top class midfielder in the summer regardless.
 
Ramshock said:
Current England international isnt what it used to be especially if someone as average as Cleverley gets picked regularly. For Christ sake Bryan Robson used to play in his position theres a world of difference between Robson in his pomp and Cleverley now.
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I agree, there is a world of difference between Bryan Robson and Tom Cleverley. Robson was perhaps even better than Roy Keane. Maybe comparing him to the likes of Nicky Butt would be fairer.

Cleverly was picked over Fellaini several times this season who is worth £27m. If Cleverly is half the player Fellaini in his pomp, surely Cleverly is worth roughly £12m.
 
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Just buy him already. With Carrick out our midfield is a shambles and he'd instantly be our best midfielder.

If he can help us get 4th he'd be worth it.

Then in the summer we can (maybe) buy this top dog midfielder everybody wants and Cabaye will be our second or third best midfielder (depending on Carrick's situation), there's no shame in that and he'd get tons of games.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Obviously the fee is the issue and as much as I want him, I agree in not spending too much over the odds but in regards to the quality of the player, he would not only improve our team but our squad in regards to hopefully a few more Champions League games this season.
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Can't we palm off a player or two in part-exchange? Maybe Cleverley or Young or even Valencia, though I can't see Moyes parting with Tony V.
 
I would get Cabaye now to improve the team, but hope he would be part of a stronger squad next season (i.e., we've bought world class MF in the summer).
 
Loon said:
I would get Cabaye now to improve the team, but hope he would be part of a stronger squad next season (i.e., we've bought world class MF in the summer).
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This. He'd be an immediate improvement on what we have now, but I don't want him at the kind of price we'd need to throw out to match PSG unless there's someone better lined up for the summer.
 
Cabaye in for 20 million with Cleverley leaving at the end of the season for 5-10. It makes sense. Replacing a poor squad player with an experienced French international midfielder who offers much more than anybody else we've got in there. Jones can go back to being a full time centre back, and Giggs will probably retire. We'll be left with an ageing Carrick, Fellaini, Cabaye and Fletcher. Room for a world class signing in the summer and we're all set.
 
Orton said:
Cabaye in for 20 million with Cleverley leaving at the end of the season for 5-10. It makes sense. Replacing a poor squad player with an experienced French international midfielder who offers much more than anybody else we've got in there. Jones can go back to being a full time centre back, and Giggs will probably retire. We'll be left with an ageing Carrick, Fellaini, Cabaye and Fletcher. Room for a world class signing in the summer and we're all set.
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This is exactly what should happen. Somebody has to make way if we want two midfielders. Cleverley is the most likely in these circumstances.
 
Hope PSG signs him tonight. Would be electrifying stuff.
 
I'd take Carvalho and Cabaye (better player than some give credit for). Would i still take Vidal in the summer if possible? Absolutely

reckon we'd get him for less than 20 btw
 
Ekeke said:
We need 1 to get back to where we were a couple of seasons ago. And then another to compete with some of the best midfields in the world

If we dont get any CMs because we decided we want to wait and then chase Vidal in the summer, we'll predictably got knocked back and end with nothing ala Fabregas anyway, but would it have been worth being a much weaker team in the meantime and losing out on our short term targets for the season - securing CL football.

We simply arent in the situation we were in a year ago where, although our CM was clearly a lot weaker than the other big teams, we still had a fit and on song Carrick we could rely on and in spite of our CM weakness we were still a league winning side.

Now we don't win, can't rely on Carrick as much, arent anywhere near a title race and might finish without champions league football. It would have been nice and effective to sign a good CM before, now its imperative.

Cabaye is a good one, Vidal is a great one. And to attract the best most sought after midfielders in the world we're going to have to come up with a lot better than the current Manchester United. Cabaye can help get us there, so can several midfielders not called Vidal, Kroos or Gundogan. Those are the kinds of names we could attract if we got back to the top, not before.
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Great post man!
 
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Ekeke said:
We need 1 to get back to where we were a couple of seasons ago. And then another to compete with some of the best midfields in the world

If we dont get any CMs because we decided we want to wait and then chase Vidal in the summer, we'll predictably got knocked back and end with nothing ala Fabregas anyway, but would it have been worth being a much weaker team in the meantime and losing out on our short term targets for the season - securing CL football.

We simply arent in the situation we were in a year ago where, although our CM was clearly a lot weaker than the other big teams, we still had a fit and on song Carrick we could rely on and in spite of our CM weakness we were still a league winning side.

Now we don't win, can't rely on Carrick as much, arent anywhere near a title race and might finish without champions league football. It would have been nice and effective to sign a good CM before, now its imperative.

Cabaye is a good one, Vidal is a great one. And to attract the best most sought after midfielders in the world we're going to have to come up with a lot better than the current Manchester United. Cabaye can help get us there, so can several midfielders not called Vidal, Kroos or Gundogan. Those are the kinds of names we could attract if we got back to the top, not before.
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Good post.

I can also see Cabaye getting better, playing at United with better players around.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
This. He'd be an immediate improvement on what we have now, but I don't want him at the kind of price we'd need to throw out to match PSG unless there's someone better lined up for the summer.
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Yup. I would cheeky bid the shit out of this now, especially if United had a sniff he wanted to join.
 
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