Yohan Cabaye

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savais said:
Why do you have to be such a dick, glaston?
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He doesn't have to be, he just is. It comes to him naturally, he can't be anything else. I can see him at home:

"Yeah Mum, the lunch was great. My irrepressible urge to vomit and sudden nausea are all testaments to the fact that you're a brilliant cook. You should write a book about how meat is at its best when it's burnt and tasteless. Your dress is wonderful as well, the food stains really bring out the best in the contrasting, eye-watering colour scheme.

You wish you had Kyle Walker's fashion sense, Mum".
 
savais said:
Why do you have to be such a dick, glaston?
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Its upsetting for opposition fans for us to sign a player like Mata.

A lot of them had convinced themselves that we were broke and couldn't spend big. They also had themselves convinced that world class talent like Mata wouldn't touch us because of Moyes/doubts over CL qualification.

Now they are clinging to the fact that we didn't sign Cabaye. You would think he was the only available CM in the world.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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We probably would have signed Cabaye but we wasted the money on Fellaini instead, that's pretty much the only reason we haven't tried to sign him I think.
 
thegregster said:
Its upsetting for opposition fans for us to sign a player like Mata.

A lot of them had convinced themselves that we were broke and couldn't spend big. They also had themselves convinced that world class talent like Mata wouldn't touch us because of Moyes/doubts over CL qualification.

Now they are clinging to the fact that we didn't sign Cabaye. You would think he was the only available CM in the world.
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Indeed.

My City supporting colleague was full of it at the start of January. I pointed out that the club only needed to do what other clubs have one and spend signifcantly either in January or in the summer to get back near the top. Its how Chelsea and City have done it, and there is no monopoly on that.

Needless to say he's now been banging on aboiut how he "doesnt see how Rooney and Mata can play in the same team". He's obsessed by United.

The siging of Mata was a big statement of intent. Other areas need to be addressed but I'm confident they will be in the summer. I think opposition fans feel like that as well, hence the concern.
 
savais said:
Why do you have to be such a dick, glaston?
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Why do you have to respond with a personal insult rather than a footballing-related comment that actually addresses what I said?

I made three valid points .... there's no need for you to get antsy just because they don't fit in with the Mata-will-carry-you-to-4th-place cheerleading.
 
shaggy said:
We probably would have signed Cabaye but we wasted the money on Fellaini instead, that's pretty much the only reason we haven't tried to sign him I think.
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Doubtful. They could have bought Cabaye in the summer if they wanted him. He wouldnt have cost what Fellaini did. I dont see what one has to do with the other.
 
RedRover said:
Doubtful. They could have bought Cabaye in the summer if they wanted him. He wouldnt have cost what Fellaini did. I dont see what one has to do with the other.
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Neither are top class, and I think Moyes wants his next CM signing to be a world class one. £50 million for both Cabaye and Fellaini is underwhelming to say the least.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Why do you have to respond with a personal insult rather than a footballing-related comment that actually addresses what I said?

I made three valid points .... there's no need for you to get antsy just because they don't fit in with the Mata-will-carry-you-to-4th-place cheerleading.
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You didn't make any points at all. You came in here with your usual tedious sarcasm, clearly with the intention of winding people up instead of actually contributing to any discussion.

And I find it hilarious that you prattle on about our weaknesses in many different threads when Spurs' best striker is Adebayor and you have Kyle Walker starting for you regularly. You make it sound like we need to have a world-class team to overtake your lot. We really don't. The current bunch is more than good enough for that, if only they started playing to anywhere near their potential.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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I'm not surpsied seeing negativity from a Spurs fan. The only hope you have of making top 4 is if United dont rally - because I cant see you finishing higher than City, Arsenal or Chelsea.

Its evident that Mata doesnt solve all the problems - only an idiot would think it did. But is shows the club moving in the right direction, signing big name, genuine top 4 players. There is no drawback to having a player of Mata's quality - and with Rooney and RVP back we should push on.

It also shows progress in my opinion, to potentially a new style of play - unlike Spurs who seem to have gone back to a basic 4-4-2 which half of the players brought in in the summer now dont seem to fit.

You make a decent (if glaringly obvious) point that Mata doesnt solve all the problems - you just do it in a way that makes you sound bitter.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Why do you have to respond with a personal insult rather than a footballing-related comment that actually addresses what I said?

I made three valid points .... there's no need for you to get antsy just because they don't fit in with the Mata-will-carry-you-to-4th-place cheerleading.
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You didn't make points, you made extremely sarcastic remarks designed purely to get a reaction.

I'd say the only reason you haven't been banned on here is because of the comic relief you provide when Spurs inevitably crumble after your ridiculously OTT predictions every season. A very good reason, mind.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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I actually believe that Jimmy wanted to say that rather than signing bunch of average players ( e.g. Lamela, Soldado, Capoue ) it's better to sign players of Mata tier, so instead of filling the gaps with average players that we'd have to replace sooner or later, it's better to stack cash and then spend it on better players.

I know that the idea of quality over quantity might be unhead of for Spuds fan but I do agree with Jimmy here.
 
Siorac said:
You didn't make any points at all. ...
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I made 4 points in fact. Do I need to list them again, or do you want to try re-reading the post concerned as a test of your written comprehension skills?
 
GlastonSpur said:
You should try reading this thread: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/a-word-about-forum-etiquette.383288/

And then you could ponder the world of internet hardmen. Perhaps you could all form secret society together? You know, with passwords, secret handshakes and everything? A bit like the Tufty club, except ... er .... harder.
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You're obsessed with United. Absilutely obsessed. You're also a terrible poster who contributes nothing to this forum.

You need to take a leaf out of other non-United posters to see what can be contributed by people on here that don't support United. There are plenty of fantastic non-United fans on here, you are not one of them.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yes, I made 4 points in fact. Do I need to list them again, or do you want to try re-reading the post concerned as a test of your written comprehension skills?
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See, again, the tedious sarcasm. Why do you even post here? You clearly don't want to discuss anything. You barely ever contribute in a meaningful way and your sole aim seems to be winding us up.

You made a total of zero valid points in the original post, considering you replied to someone who was happy we didn't go for Cabaye and Baines. In that context your post was entirely irrelevant and laughably condescending. Even if your reply made any kind of sense, it would still be hard to actually respond to you in a civilized manner because of that condescension.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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Of course Mata wont solve all the midfield problems, he prefers playing behind the striker but buying him means we can switch up the system. If we play two holding midfielders with three attacking ones ahead, the problem isnt as big as opposed to playing players with limited creativity in that role. We still have a creative attack force, just not the orthodox holding and creative mids that most fans think is the be all and end all of footballing dilemmas. The gap wont be filled but the problem will be negated, at least until the summer when realistic targets will more likely be available. This will also allow our attacking players to interchange positions behind RVP. You also speak as if you assume Rooney will be fit for every single game... if Rooney is unavailable, Mata can easily fill in, lessening the burden.

Also, the signing shows a statement of intent and brings up the whole teams spirit. Ozil and Cazorla play similar positions but it didnt stop Wenger buying Ozil, when players of this calibre become available, sometimes it just cant be passed up.

Evra and Baines is debatable who is better, I say Baines at the moment but why would we spend to the high end of £20m+ for someone entering his 30s? It would be a short term fix, there's no point in that. We are probably waiting for the availability of a younger fullback, someone like Coentrao.

As for Cabaye, he is a brilliant player, but clearly not in the same same league as the elite players in that position, and we all know how extortionate Newcastle can be, especially to domestic rivals. With PSG also in the fold, the bidding war would not be worth it. He should have been bought instead of Fellaini but I guess Moyes took a gut instinct in Fellaini and it didnt pay off. That happens, just look at Lamela, Holtby, Chadli, Soldado, Ba, Torres, Aspas etc. Better off we do with what we have and re-evaluate in the summer.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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It's pretty simple though isn't it. Baines at 29 or whatever he is will solve nothing. Cabaye would be £20m+ and is going to be instantly pushed back to join our 5 other squad midfielders when we sign Gundogan in the summer.

Mata is what you call buying a world class player rather than more squad players, an idea you are probably oblivious to as a Spurs fan. A no brainer and he gives us an option over Young or Valenica.
 
Pexbo said:
It's pretty simple though isn't it. Baines at 29 or whatever he is will solve nothing. Cabaye would be £20m+ and is going to be instantly pushed back to join our 5 other squad midfielders when we sign Gundogan in the summer.

Mata is what you call buying a world class player rather than more squad players, an idea you are probably oblivious to as a Spurs fan. A no brainer and he gives us an option over Young or Valenica.
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You lot really need to read his thread and stop saying such things!
 
GlastonSpur said:
What point would that be?
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I'm glad you're asking. My point is that despite both players being actually good and most likely improving our team there would be a lot of negative burden attached to these transfers. Both would be too expensive, and the premium attached to theirs respective transfer fees wouldn't correspond with the improvement they would bring. in another words - i would much rather us to spend 40 mil on Kross, Vidal, Pogba than 30 mil on Cabaye.

In addition both players would be short term fixes due their age.
 
Cina said:
You lot really need to read his thread and stop saying such things!
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Genuinely have no idea what I wrote that. I was thinking Vidal, Gundogan ticks all the boxes bar being a crock and a potential Hargreaves mkII.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. Mata will sort out your CM problems and luckily doesn't prefer to play where Rooney prefers to play .... so he really plugs a big gap. And Evra is so much better than Baines it's unreal. And as for Cabaye .... who needs him when you've got Mata?
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I used to like to see Spurs do well but over the years of reading your comments here I now hope they lose every match. All because of comments like this...

Try not referencing the etiquette thread when you are wanting in the area of etiquette.
 
The 28-year-old, who swapped St James' Park for the French capital, says the Tyneside outfit promised to let him leave in the winter window after rejecting Arsenal's summer bid

Yohan Cabaye has revealed there was an agreement in place enabling him to leave Newcastle United in the January transfer window.

The France international completed his move to Ligue 1 champions Paris Saint-Germain on Wednesday, signing a three-and-a-half-year contract


Having been unveiled as a PSG player, the 28-year-old expressed gratitude to Newcastle for sanctioning his exit, making reference to a failed bid from Arsenal in the previous window that led to him missing games at the start of the season.

"Last summer I wasn't able to leave but then there was another opportunity this winter and they (Newcastle) respected the agreement we had. So I'd like to say a big 'thank you' to them.

"It's true that there was an offer from Arsenal over the summer that was rejected and then the discussions stopped.

"There was interest there because they made Newcastle an offer for me, but Newcastle decided not to accept it.

"That was their choice and at the start it was hard to take, but looking back on things and considering how we played in the subsequent six months, it was the right choice."

A pivotal figure during his time at St James' Park, Cabaye scored seven goals in 19 Premier League appearances for Newcastle after Arsenal's offer was turned down.
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When you have an unhappy player like this you cant do a lot more than what Newcastle did. They refused to accept Arsenal's low offer and an agreement that the player could leave in the next window meant he could get his head straight this season where he had a big impact for his team and secured him the big move he wanted. If Newcastle did get the £20 million then well done to them they played the whole situation correctly
 
How's he done so far then? Only one game in, but how did he get on?
 
Ekeke said:
When you have an unhappy player like this you cant do a lot more than what Newcastle did. They refused to accept Arsenal's low offer and an agreement that the player could leave in the next window meant he could get his head straight this season where he had a big impact for his team and secured him the big move he wanted. If Newcastle did get the £20 million then well done to them they played the whole situation correctly
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Apart from getting in a replacement..
 
To be fair to Newcastle, it usually takes about 5 years to bring in a replacement for a midfielder. At least that's what my time as a United supporter has taught me.
 
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He's come out and said he's unhappy he isn't playing more at PSG and misses England. Already 28, but would make some sense as a CM signing if Van Gaal rates Carrick and so isn't looking for a DM, we don't get Strootman and we're looking for another player in that area who can pass and move.

We'd have 3 players for 2 CM spots in Di Maria, Herrera and Cabaye and then Blind and Carrick competing at DM. The kind of depth you need to compete in the CL and Prem. And of course Di Maria can always play further forward/wider if we want to start Cabaye and Herrera in front of a D-mid and really look to outnumber teams in the middle/have a bit more defensive intelligence out there.

Selling Fellaini would pay for most of it, I figure. Cabaye wouldn't be my first choice, but he does make some sense
 
Pretty predictable that he wasn't going to become first choice at PSG. Always had a feeling he would end up back in England.
 
Did he seriously think he would start every game for PSG? What a plonk. You ain't that good, Kebab.
 
NoPace said:
He's come out and said he's unhappy he isn't playing more at PSG and misses England. Already 28, but would make some sense as a CM signing if Van Gaal rates Carrick and so isn't looking for a DM, we don't get Strootman and we're looking for another player in that area who can pass and move.

We'd have 3 players for 2 CM spots in Di Maria, Herrera and Cabaye and then Blind and Carrick competing at DM. The kind of depth you need to compete in the CL and Prem. And of course Di Maria can always play further forward/wider if we want to start Cabaye and Herrera in front of a D-mid and really look to outnumber teams in the middle/have a bit more defensive intelligence out there.

Selling Fellaini would pay for most of it, I figure. Cabaye wouldn't be my first choice, but he does make some sense
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He's leaving because he isn't first choice. He wouldn't be here either.
 
always liked him, dont think we will buy him though. He isnt a favourite on here, i guess there will be a lot of people not wanting him here. I think it would be reasonable to go in for him, Carrick is 33 and with selling Fellaini, we would have him, Herrera, Di Maria and Blind. Cabaye can play as a 6 and 8.

Still think we will end up with Strootman, no matter what Roma say. Would be a good back up option though.
 
Bit hard those comments, my guess is he was offered a chance to return home to France, a bigger wage, a chance to dominate France and compete in the UCL Of course he was going to take it and try fight for his spot.
 
Let him go to Arsenal. He'd be a perfect defensive midfielder for them, would fill the Arteta role perfectly ;)
 
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