Yohan Cabaye

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We already have plenty of squad players, we need actual top quality. If someone isn't good enough to start in a title winning side they're not what we need, it's that simple.

If we don't sign Cabaye we'll need to sign two quality cms in the summer. If we do sign Cabaye we'll still need to sign two quality cms in the summer. That isn't much improvement for 20m.

Cabaye is a top quality midfield player and I can't understand how many on this site fail to see that. He got into the France national team while playing for Newcastle and still is one of the better passing midfield players in the Premier League. It seems like him playing for Newcastle among 'average' players is clouding the judgment of a lot of people regarding his ability but there's no doubt in my mind that him in your midfield with RVP, Rooney, Januzaj and Carrick would be a very good for Utd. It just needs time to gel and work together.
 
He would be an extremely expensive upgrade and to be be fair, plenty of players would be an upgrade for us in dutch eredivisiemidfield, such are our problems, doesn't mean they are good enough. For what Cabaye would cost, we could get better players and he would be no more than a short term solution.

Maybe people aren't necessarily saying he will be our saviour but some of the overrating of Cabaye in this thread has been hilarious. The weirdest thing about all this Cabaye nonsense is that we have never bid for him, expressed an interest in him or even really been linked with him.

Hardly short term. He's a top quality midfielder who would improve you in the short and long term.
 
Cabaye is a top quality midfield player and I can't understand how many on this site fail to see that. He got into the France national team while playing for Newcastle and still is one of the better passing midfield players in the Premier League. It seems like him playing for Newcastle among 'average' players is clouding the judgment of a lot of people regarding his ability but there's no doubt in my mind that him in your midfield with RVP, Rooney, Januzaj and Carrick would be a very good for Utd. It just needs time to gel and work together.

Yup. People are hesitant on buying premier league players after Fellaini, which is understandable but all you have to do is actually watch them. Fellaini never impressed if you imagined him playing for United. Nothing he ever did involved controlling games from midfield, dictating tempo, providing splitting through balls, or being a creative force, or showing skill on the ball. It was always just winning headers with him, and Everton was suited to his style. Cabaye would be great for us and he'll show how good he is in PSG now when he goes there, just like how he shows he's a very good player whenever he plays for France. He's very talented on the ball, a great passer on the ball and has an excellent shot on him, and he's a hard worker. Would be a perfect replacement for Carrick, and if we went for someone like Matic to partner him, we'd be sorted there for a few years.
 
Cabaye is a top quality midfield player and I can't understand how many on this site fail to see that. He got into the France national team while playing for Newcastle and still is one of the better passing midfield players in the Premier League. It seems like him playing for Newcastle among 'average' players is clouding the judgment of a lot of people regarding his ability but there's no doubt in my mind that him in your midfield with RVP, Rooney, Januzaj and Carrick would be a very good for Utd. It just needs time to gel and work together.

Top quality? I don't think so. I don't think he's too different in quality to Carrick and I wouldn't call him top quality either. We need more than that. Don't get me wrong, he's a very good player and I'd be delighted to have him as, say, our third best cm. Unfortunately we don't have room for yet another squad player, unless Fellaini or Cleverley leave.

I wish we'd signed him instead of Fellaini, he would've suited our needs so much better.
 
Why though? I'm not that pretentious that I will start listing players and act all know it all. It's not a matter of signing £20m superstars, fact is, if we spend that kind of money, it's gone from our transfer budget and then it's possible that we won't sign another midfielder anytime soon. This argument is absolutely pointless, we are not signing Cabaye.

For £20m, he's probably among the top 3 players out there. Matuidi, him, ummmmmm can't think of anyone else. There really just aren't many good midfielders we could get for under 20m. There's quite a few in the 20-30m range, and that's what we should be looking at, but Cabaye would be a very good signing. We should have signed him 2 years ago, then last summer and not waste the money on fecking Fellaini.
 
For £20m, he's probably among the top 3 players out there. Matuidi, him, ummmmmm can't think of anyone else. There really just aren't many good midfielders we could get for under 20m. There's quite a few in the 20-30m range, and that's what we should be looking at, but Cabaye would be a very good signing. We should have signed him 2 years ago, then last summer and not waste the money on fecking Fellaini.

Well two players that I quite like in Serie A are Guarin and Vidal - Vidal is far superior to Cabaye and there wouldn't be much between Guarin and Cabaye - both cost significantly less than twenty million. Cabaye himself moved to Newcastle for a relatively small fee, point is, there are better players out there and it's a matter of looking what's available come the summer. Unfortunately, when buying from PL clubs, there tends to be an inflated transfer fee. Matiudi who you mention is also abailable on a free at the end of the season; why not work on getting him in? I haven't see much of him but I hear he's a good player.

Obviously Arsenal didn't think he was worth that kind of money as they started their bidding very low. Yes he would improve us for now alright but I don't want him to become our main midfielder as I don't feel he's good enough. Some people on here rate him far higher than I do and that's fair enough. He is good and as I said during the summer, if it's a choice between him and Fellaini, I would go with Cabaye. That didn't happen and now I'm hoping the next midfielder that we bring in, will be absolute top quality.
 
Pexbo said:
We've got 5 squad midfielders already.
5 squad players. Ok, lets look it that way. Ando gone, Giggs retiring, Jones will move back when Rio and Vidic leave at the end of the season. So there is 3 who we can't rely on. I think we should upgrade on Cleverley and Fellaini also.

Big Ben Foster said:
Great straw man argument. Is that even what I said? We have enough squad players. We need someone in our midfield who is better than that.
As above, we won't have enough squad players. We have to look forward. If you don't think he is better than someone like Cleverley, well that's great.

sullydnl said:
We already have plenty of squad players, we need actual top quality. If someone isn't good enough to start in a title winning side they're not what we need, it's that simple.

If we don't sign Cabaye we'll need to sign two quality cms in the summer. If we do sign Cabaye we'll still need to sign two quality cms in the summer. That isn't much improvement for 20m.
Same as I have mentioned, we need to sign better than what we have. Cabaye is that. He isn't world class but that shouldn't mean we shouldn't look to improve.

So overall to those 3 points. Cabaye isn't the world class player I am saying sign, far from it. However, he is far better than the likes of Ando who is gone, Giggs who is leaving, Cleverley and Fellaini. We should still try to bring in the highest quality but we also have to strengthen in depth and high quality depth.
 
Well two players that I quite like in Serie A are Guarin and Vidal - Vidal is far superior to Cabaye and there wouldn't be much between Guarin and Cabaye - both cost significantly less than twenty million. Cabaye himself moved to Newcastle for a relatively small fee, point is, there are better players out there and it's a matter of looking what's available come the summer. Unfortunately, when buying from PL clubs, there tends to be an inflated transfer fee. Matiudi who you mention is also abailable on a free at the end of the season; why not work on getting him in? I haven't see much of him but I hear he's a good player.

Obviously Arsenal didn't think he was worth that kind of money as they started their bidding very low. Yes he would improve us for now alright but I don't want him to become our main midfielder as I don't feel he's good enough. Some people on here rate him far higher than I do and that's fair enough. He is good and as I said during the summer, if it's a choice between him and Fellaini, I would go with Cabaye. That didn't happen and now I'm hoping the next midfielder that we bring in, will be absolute top quality.
I rate cabaye higher then guarin personally, and Vidal would be like £50m at least and even then he probaby wouldn't want to go. Anyways I agree, but I'd rather him then nobody as it looks like will happen.
 
I think Cabaye would improve playing with better players. The question is at this point in time, is he better staying at Newcastle ;)
 
Just buy him, he would add a lot imo. A sight more than Anderson did and we'd be spending similar kind of money on Cabaye you'd imagine.
 
I think Cabaye would improve our midfield. A lot. And he would probably be our most realistic target if we miss out on 4th place.
 
Cabaye is a good player and would certainly be an improvement on what we have in centre midfield, but he's not good enough to take us to the level we want to be at. We need two top quality central midfielders and if we get them by the end of the summer, is Cabaye going to be content with being a squad player? If we were to buy Cabaye even at 20M, I fear that it maybe a sign that we aren't really in the race to sign top quality midfielders, like Reus, Vidal, Fabregas or Modric all who would cost around double that.

Also the latest rumour is that PSG are going to make a bid for Cabaye and are willing to go as high as 26M, if that's what Cabaye will go for then I would hope we would pay the extra 15M and get someone World Class.
 
A couple of papers are saying he will have the option to buy out his contract (reported to be £6m) and leave in summer.
 
Did read this morning that PSG were in at 26m for him and that he wants to go back to France. If that's the case then it's another that's gotten away. I wouldn't be too upset though as I'm not convinced that he's the right man for us in the long term.
 
Premier League proven.
Affordable.
Available to play in Europe.
French International.
A real life fecking midfield player.
Would instantly improve our midfield.

"Nah, don't want him." - RedCafe
 
Premier League proven.
Affordable.
Available to play in Europe.
French International.
A real life fecking midfield player.
Would instantly improve our midfield.

"Nah, don't want him." - RedCafe

:lol:

All of that applied to Fellaini in the summer aside from being Begian, who aren't that far behind France if at all.
 
I'm not sure 'would instantly improve our midfield' could apply to Fellaini.

No, a large amount definitely thought Fellaini would be better than Cleverley. "Better than everyone we have except Carrick" was a popular phrase. He might even turn out to be, Cleverley is a very average player after all. That doesn't mean anyone who's better than him is a good signing though.
 
I like that Moyes is saying that "United's transfer policy will remain focused on a long-term approach, with only the very best being targeted" but they need to deliver and soon.
 
Obviously I am a fan of Cabaye and many are not and I accept that, it's fine. But just have a look at what our squad will look like next season. No Giggs, no Anderson, with Rio and Vidic days being numbered, Jones will be moved back to his preferred position on a more regular basis.

So that leaves our midfield with Carrick (not getting any younger, I am not saying he is past it), Fellaini, Fletcher (who still needs to be managed the right way) Cleverley and maybe Powell. Now there is 5 centre midfield options, ok, you can possibly throw Jones in there but I think we will see more of him at the back next season and rightly so. 5 options sounds good butin terms of quality compared to what the best teams in Europe has, well it's not even worth comparing.

Over a season, that will most likely see us competing in the Europa League, can you honestly argue that Cabaye wouldn't improve that midfied? I am talking about improving the whole picture of the midfield.

Obviously we still need that world class signing in there but we need quality and quality in depth in midfield and at the right price, Cabaye certainly brings that.

Obviously cost is an issue but lets face it, it's a big issue in every transfer in the modern game.
 
He wants to go to PSG, and they can spend double whatever we offer. This one is over, as much as I'd like it to happen.
 
They have more to offer than us financially, but do they even want him?


Apparently. Philipe Auclaire who is pretty reliable is saying on the Guardian podcast it's more or less done.
 
Cabaye going to PSG would pave the way for the still out of contract Matuidi, another Frenchmen that I would love at United.
 
Still holding some hope that we can bring in Cabaye. It's looking more and more likely that if he does leave, it will be for PSG and if he can get that move, fair play to him but we still need a central midfielder and he would improve us so much. The price is an issue of course but we need results, it might be time to start playing with the big clubs and Mata was the first step in spending to get what you want.
 
Cabaye going to PSG would pave the way for the still out of contract Matuidi, another Frenchmen that I would love at United.

I thought he was about to sign a new deal, no? I could be mistaking him with someone else. Matuidi would be excellent for us, & PSG would be stupid to let him go (in my opinion).
 
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