Yohan Cabaye

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Craig Hope ‏@CraigHope01
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#nufc could listen to offers for Yohan Cabaye after Alan Pardew admitted 'every player has their price'. See @MailSport for full story.

I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's not even that much older than Cleverley. Just give em TClevs as make weight, would improve our squad in an instant.

Anyone expecting us to get Gundogan, Vidal, Pogba, Modric and so forth are mental.
 
Beachryan said:
Craig Hope ‏@CraigHope01
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#nufc could listen to offers for Yohan Cabaye after Alan Pardew admitted 'every player has their price'. See @MailSport for full story.

I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's not even that much older than Cleverley. Just give em TClevs as make weight, would improve our squad in an instant.

Anyone expecting us to get Gundogan, Vidal, Pogba, Modric and so forth are mental.
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Thank you, sensible post.
 
There's a big gap between that Gundogan/Vidal/Pogba/Modric standard and Cabaye though, with a range of players in between. They won't all be massively overpriced either. Again, there's nothing so special or unique about Cabaye that he's worth paying that kind of money for.
 
Beachryan said:
Craig Hope ‏@CraigHope01
21m​

#nufc could listen to offers for Yohan Cabaye after Alan Pardew admitted 'every player has their price'. See @MailSport for full story.

I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's not even that much older than Cleverley. Just give em TClevs as make weight, would improve our squad in an instant.

Anyone expecting us to get Gundogan, Vidal, Pogba, Modric and so forth are mental.
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But only top top players will help us.

If we sign players like Cabaye in the next years........we'll go the same way like Liverpool 20 years ago.

Cabaye is a very good player. But he'll not win us the trophies.
 
Yeah I'd take him. Would instantly improve us now and would be a good squad player (much better then what we have now) long term when/if we bring in 2 qualify midfielders.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
But only top top players will help us.

If we sign players like Cabaye in the next years........we'll go the same way like Liverpool 20 years ago.

Cabaye is a very good player. But he'll not win us the trophies.
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The issue is that we'll not be signing any top players, in my opinion anyway. So we should concentrate on signing younger talents to develop, with players like Cabaye coming in in the meantime.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
But only top top players will help us.

If we sign players like Cabaye in the next years........we'll go the same way like Liverpool 20 years ago.

Cabaye is a very good player. But he'll not win us the trophies.
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Noone is saying Cabaye is THE man to sort us out, but he'd be a perfect signing for us right now. He's a quality player, knows the league and isn't cup tied.

He'd help us ensure top 4 and we can add the top quality we need in the Summer. Even if that squeezes Cabaye out of the first 11 we'd still have a quality player ready to rotate in.
 
Carl said:
Noone is saying Cabaye is THE man to sort us out, but he'd be a perfect signing for us right now. He's a quality player, knows the league and isn't cup tied.

He'd help us ensure top 4 and we can add the top quality we need in the Summer. Even if that squeezes Cabaye out of the first 11 we'd still have a quality player ready to rotate in.
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I really don't think he would. Him coming in is not going to make all that big a difference

He's also not playing as a CM in any case. More or less a number 10.
 
akash02 said:
I really don't think he would. Him coming in is not going to make all that big a difference

He's also not playing as a CM in any case. More or less a number 10.
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He's a number eight, and I think you overestimate our creativity from our centre midfield. He'd be such a big improvement on our current midfield it's unreal.
 
Carl said:
Noone is saying Cabaye is THE man to sort us out, but he'd be a perfect signing for us right now. He's a quality player, knows the league and isn't cup tied.

He'd help us ensure top 4 and we can add the top quality we need in the Summer. Even if that squeezes Cabaye out of the first 11 we'd still have a quality player ready to rotate in.
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Before we get all these world superstars everyone wants, we first could do with getting in the CL. So Cabaye would be of use. We aren't going to be able to get world class players now, but without CL football we won't get them in the summer either, there will be too many other suitors for them.
 
akash02 said:
I really don't think he would. Him coming in is not going to make all that big a difference

He's also not playing as a CM in any case. More or less a number 10.
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He's played the majority of games in CM, only really the big games where Newcastle have wanted an extra midfielder has he played as a #10.

Also, I disagree he he wouldn't make a big difference. We are fecking shit in midfield. I don't know the stats but I wouldn't mind betting that he's scored and assisted more this season than our midfielders put together.
 
Kid Cunto said:
He's a number eight, and I think you overestimate our creativity from our centre midfield. He'd be such a big improvement on our current midfield it's unreal.
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He's been the most advanced of their CM's with 2 out and out DM's behind him which gives him a lot of freedom which he won't have here.

And for someone who's supposed to be creative he has 2 assists all season and at least one of them from a set piece
 
akash02 said:
He's been the most advanced of their CM's with 2 out and out DM's behind him which gives him a lot of freedom which he won't have here.

And for someone who's supposed to be creative he has 2 assists all season and at least one of them from a set piece
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He assists the assisting player, much like Scholes did. He'd provide ammunition to our players in the final third. Our current midfield players have an issue with even passing the ball forward.
 
Kid Cunto said:
He assists the assisting player, much like Scholes did. He'd provide ammunition to our players in the final third. Our current midfield players have an issue with even passing the ball forward.
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Well that's just making stuff up. Valencia and Young have seen plenty of the ball in promising attacking areas only to do feck all with it. Cabaye's not going to make Valencia's crossing any better.

Anyone expecting Cabaye to come in and completely turn it around is living in dream land
 
akash02 said:
Well that's just making stuff up. Valencia and Young have seen plenty of the ball in promising attacking areas only to do feck all with it. Cabaye's not going to make Valencia's crossing any better.

Anyone expecting Cabaye to come in and completely turn it around is living in dream land
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Nobody expects him to turn it around, nobody has said that. It's been suggested he'd be a big improvement, and he would be.
 
Kid Cunto said:
Nobody expects him to turn it around, nobody has said that. It's been suggested he'd be a big improvement, and he would be.
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A big improvement suggests a big turn around which won't happen. And I'd argue the idea that Cabaye is a big improvement on Carrick

It would be a massive waste of 20 odd million. If he hadn't signed Fellaini then it might have made sense. That said no one would have preferred Cabaye over Fellaini in the summer and no one wanted Fellaini either
 
akash02 said:
A big improvement suggests a big turn around which won't happen. And I'd argue the idea that Cabaye is a big improvement on Carrick

It would be a massive waste of 20 odd million. If he hadn't signed Fellaini then it might have made sense. That said no one would have preferred Cabaye over Fellaini in the summer and no one wanted Fellaini either
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I honestly don't see anyway a Cabaye deal doesn't make sense, unless it was for an extortionate fee.
 
akash02 said:
A big improvement suggests a big turn around which won't happen. And I'd argue the idea that Cabaye is a big improvement on Carrick

It would be a massive waste of 20 odd million. If he hadn't signed Fellaini then it might have made sense. That said no one would have preferred Cabaye over Fellaini in the summer and no one wanted Fellaini either
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This isn't true.
 
akash02 said:
A big improvement suggests a big turn around which won't happen. And I'd argue the idea that Cabaye is a big improvement on Carrick

It would be a massive waste of 20 odd million. If he hadn't signed Fellaini then it might have made sense. That said no one would have preferred Cabaye over Fellaini in the summer and no one wanted Fellaini either
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Agree with your general point but I disagree that everyone would have taken Fellaini over Cabaye. I'd definitely have preferred Cabaye, he'd have been a better fit for our team.
 
akash02 said:
A big improvement suggests a big turn around which won't happen. And I'd argue the idea that Cabaye is a big improvement on Carrick

It would be a massive waste of 20 odd million. If he hadn't signed Fellaini then it might have made sense. That said no one would have preferred Cabaye over Fellaini in the summer and no one wanted Fellaini either
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I'd have preferred Cabaye to be honest.

If we could get Cabaye now for 20m I'd do it. He'd improve us straight away, could play alongside Carrick or Fletcher or even both.
 
'Not good enough' ...I hate that term being thrown about when we have the likes of Cleverley and Giggs starting for us most weeks. He's far better than them and arguably better/on level terms with Carrick, either way he's the sort of midfielder we should have been in for rather than the defence minded style we bought in Fellaini.

He isn't world class but those people hoping for a Gundogan, Vidal or Pogba type of signing will be surprised when we end up with somebone in the Cabaye bracket this summer.
 
Fair enough.

I'd take him at 15m or so but 20m and above is a bit ridiculous. We cannot afford to sign two 20m+ players in 6 months who are both quite a bit away from the standard we need.
 
Castia said:
'Not good enough' ...I hate that term being thrown about when we have the likes of Cleverley and Giggs starting for us most weeks. He's far better than them and arguably better/on level terms with Carrick, either way he's the sort of midfielder we should have been in for rather than the defence minded style we bought in Fellaini.
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When people say "not good enough" they don't mean he isn't better than the likes of Cleverley, they mean he isn't as good as the players our rivals use. By that standard they're right, he isn't good enough. We could by a host of midfielders who are better than the likes of Cleverley and we'd still have a shit midfield, it's a terrible way to judge potential signings. The "better than what we have" line of thinking is part of what led us to sign Fellaini too.

We regularly sign players better than Cabaye in every other position, there's nothing special about cm that means we have to have lower standards there.
 
We won't sign him (for some reason we seemingly aren't even interested) but he'd be perfect for us. Not many goal scoring midfielders about and he's one of them
 
Gerald G said:
If we sign Cabaye I don't think we'll sign another midfielder in the summer.
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Is there a midfielder available in the summer who we can confidently say is better than Cabaye? Bear in mind we're likely to not have Champions League football and it remains to be seen if we've the money to spend £40 to £50 million on one player.
 
Kid Cunto said:
Is there a midfielder available in the summer who we can confidently say is better than Cabaye? Bear in mind we're likely to not have Champions League football and it remains to be seen if we've the money to spend £40 to £50 million on one player.
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Probably Gundogan, for a start. Whether we'd be able to get him is another question and I'm sceptical about it. Who knows what will happen, but we do need to be aiming higher than Cabaye to really sort us out.
 
Kid Cunto said:
Is there a midfielder available in the summer who we can confidently say is better than Cabaye? Bear in mind we're likely to not have Champions League football and it remains to be seen if we've the money to spend £40 to £50 million on one player.
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If we get Champions League.. yes. Even without Champions League I'd still say we could get a better midfielder. I'm not saying I'd be totally against but it's unlikely that we'll sign a midfielder now then sign another top central midfielder in the summer.

I'd risk it and go for Rakitic if I had a choice.
 
Of course we could get a better cm than Cabaye. You don't even have to name them, every year there are better cms than Cabaye on the market. It's like asking if we could get a better CF than, say, Demba Ba. The answer is always going to be yes.
 
pocco said:
Probably Gundogan, for a start. Whether we'd be able to get him is another question and I'm sceptical about it. Who knows what will happen, but we do need to be aiming higher than Cabaye to really sort us out.
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If Real Madrid get involved we won't have a chance. Money talks and even though we don't like it the allure of Real Madrid is bigger than ours at this minute. If we get CL football we will have a better chance of getting a big name signing. That's if the owners are being true to their word.
 
sullydnl said:
Of course we could get a better cm than Cabaye. You don't even have to name them, every year there are better cms than Cabaye on the market. It's like asking if we could get a better CF than, say, Demba Ba. The answer is always going to be yes.
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Course there are better, but it doesn't mean they want to play for us. Why does everyone think foreign players are gagging to play for Manchester United. Most aren't unless you pay them loads of money.
 
pocco said:
Probably Gundogan, for a start. Whether we'd be able to get him is another question and I'm sceptical about it. Who knows what will happen, but we do need to be aiming higher than Cabaye to really sort us out.
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We already have aimed higher than Cabaye, we failed miserably with Fabregas and it'll only get harder without Champions League football.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Course there are better, but it doesn't mean they want to play for us. Why does everyone think foreign players are gagging to play for Manchester United. Most aren't unless you pay them loads of money.
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Of course they'll want to play for us. We're Manchester United ffs, one of the biggest clubs in the world who have dominated one of the biggest leagues in the world for decades. That's why we were able to get a GK like DDG, defenders like Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra and strikers like RvP and Rooney. Kagawa hasn't shown it here but he was one of the best AM's in Europe while he was at Dortmund and he was delighted to come here. We regularly attract better players than Cabaye to the club and we'll continue to do so even of we do miss out on the CL next year.
 
sullydnl said:
Of course they'll want to play for us. We're Manchester United ffs, one of the biggest clubs in the world who have dominated one of the biggest leagues in the world for decades. That's why we were able to get a GK like DDG, defenders like Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra and strikers like RvP and Rooney. Kagawa hasn't shown it here but he was one of the best AM's in Europe while he was at Dortmund and he was delighted to come here. We regularly attract better players than Cabaye to the club and we'll continue to do so even of we do miss out on the CL next year.
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That is a fan speaking. Those players all signed for SAF and were assured of success. Now we have a new manager and it isn't as certain. It depends if they are willing to become part of the United project, which with the age of some of our team, it is going to be that. Some players will want instant trophies.
 
Imo signing Cabaye would be almost the same as Arsenal signing Arteta. Arteta isn't world class, he was a stop gap signing after losing Fabregas and Nasri. However he's been a very useful signing for them. With the addition of Ozil, Cazorla and Flamini + the improvement in form and fitness by the likes of Rosicky, Wilshere, Ramsey they now have a deep midfield which can be rotated without too much of a drop in quality. Cabaye is no a marquee signing but I'm sure we will come to appreciate him with time if it happens. Right now we have a threadbare midfield and we could use a signing who offers a slight increase in quality. We really need creative midfielder with an eye for goal. He is also attainable unlike Gundogan, Pogba and Vidal. United have always shown a preference to players with EPL experience ( Jones, Fellaini, Young, Valencia, Rooney, Ferdinand, Smalling, Berbatov etc). He fits that profile.
 
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