What don't you rate about Cabaye? Just that he plays for Newcastle and they are not a Champions League team?Does this thread have to be bumped every single transfer window now? Do not want. I should hope that we will be looking for real top quality and not players the standard of Cabaye.
This. I think too many just get caught up with the big names and forget to simply look at the quality of the footballer.I don't get the disdain that links with Cabaye get treated with on here, he's a very good player and would be our second best midfielder if we signed him. If he's available at a good price we should be in like Flynn.
This. I think too many just get caught up with the big names and forget to simply look at the quality of the footballer.
Again, we should be aiming to bring in the very best but I would prefer players that would suit the system over individual quality and the size of the transfer fee.
I think most of the muppets just see a name and don't think about the bigger picture. They just see a big name and tunnel their vision on that player.Has anyone said they would prefer to sign a player with a big transfer fee than one who suits the team?
I think you just rate Cabaye higher than most in this thread.
I think he would be great for any of the big teams, except probably Chelsea and City. Probably you guys the least compared to us and Arsenal but I think if you guys had European football, he would be very useful.Some of my Toon mates reckon he's heading our way. Not sure I'd be too chuffed with that.
I think he would be great for any of the big teams, except probably Chelsea and City. Probably you guys the least compared to us and Arsenal but I think if you guys had European football, he would be very useful.
It's my concern too, I don't know what sort of fee he would go for. I think Newcastle would want 20+ for him, I would only want the club to go to 20m max.He'd improve us, I just worry that Ashley will bend us over again and charge us something ridiculous when for what we pay for him, we could get a much better player.
What don't you rate about Cabaye? Just that he plays for Newcastle and they are not a Champions League team?
He is a very good footballer, French international and a natural centre midfielder. Should be and I expect him to be a target and rightly so.
Is he a Xavi or Iniesta? No but that doesn't mean he can't be a good fit for United. Some of our best signings were not world class names.
We should be aiming higher for a better player but if we were to buy him, I'd rather we'd have bought him instead of Fellaini last summer. Spending a shit load of money and ending up with Fellaini AND Cabaye... I don't know.
Ive now changed my mind about Cabaye, i reckon he'd be an effective signing and would step up his game. There's no reason we can't have someone effective like Cabaye in January and then continue looking for young midfield talent in the summer.
I respect your opinion on him as a player, it's totally fine and reasonable. And I am not playing the muppet game. I think most transfer fees are ridiculous these days but a player is worth what a club wants for him unfortunately.You obviously rate him far higher than I do. Look back through the thread, I have always stuck to my guns about Cabaye. I don't know where this rubbish about signing 'Spanish' players etc, comes from. I don't have any particular player in mind for us to sign as I don't play the whole 'transfer muppet' game.
I think Cabaye is distinctly average and is simply standing out due to a lack of real quality centre midfielders in the league. I think value wise, he would cost close to £20m and that, in my opinion, is simply ludicrous for a player like Cabaye.
I personally would be massively against the signing, you wouldn't, and that's fair enough.
I just hope the club has more ambition. The target is to reach the standards of Bayern, Barca and Madrid. We should be looking to improve our squad with players that elevate us towards that level not bolster out squad with good players that could do a job for us.
If we sign Cabaye, Carrick remains our best midfielder and we have a choice of Cleverley, Cabaye, Fletcher and Jones to play alongside him. Could you really see us spending money in a top midfielder when we already have the numbers in midfield? That's of we can offload Anderson and Giggs retires.
People always assume that these players will suddenly step up a level when they play for us and continue to improve but it's not always the case. Take Valencia for example. We signed him as a 7/10 quality player. He had one season when he stepped up to 8 and occasionally 9/10 but for the rest of the time he's been a very average 7/10 and dropping to 6/10 and below for large periods.
Now sign a player that is an 8 or 9 out of 10 and while you hope he improves, even if he doesn't and drops off, he's still better than your 7/10 player. That's the logic United worked on for years. Even on a bad day, our players had enough quality to get results, now you start having players of Cabaye's quality and they hit some bad form, you'll soon see they're not good enough.
You obviously rate him far higher than I do. Look back through the thread, I have always stuck to my guns about Cabaye.
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I think Cabaye is distinctly average and is simply standing out due to a lack of real quality centre midfielders in the league. I think value wise, he would cost close to £20m and that, in my opinion, is simply ludicrous for a player like Cabaye.
I personally would be massively against the signing, you wouldn't, and that's fair enough.
He is a good player and Newcastle probably won't be able to hold onto him for too much longer.
Credit to them last season; they played some lovely football and were extremely hard to get anything against. That all seems to have changed this season. Failure to qualify for Europe could well be a detriment to their squad, I'm sure the likes of Cabaye, et el, will look to move on.
Newcastle are slowly losing their best players; Ba is gone, Coloccini looks to be off, Ben Arfa is flirting with PSG, Cabaye will surely leave at some point - beyond that, they have very average players.
A very average 7/10 doesn't make much sense tbh.
Pedantic.
He's a 7/10 player, who rarely raises his game above that. Kuyt was a 7/10 player too but he was above average for a 7/10 player because he would often step up and do the business, you still wouldn't rate Kuyt above a 7/10 would you?
He'd be a competent midfielder for us.
We don't need competent though, but anything to avoid getting in crisis and having to play Fellaini/Giggs.
Competent is Jones or Giggs playing there. Cabaye is a natural centre mid with the perfect balance of defence and attack in his game. He'd walk into our current midfield and stand out a mile. We need to stop this snobbery just because he plays for Newcastle and sign what is a very good player to improve us. We aren't going to get Gundogan, Fabregas etc. Time to live in the real world.
And what is the real world? Is the dream over now? Are we just a very average club that challenges for the top 4 every season?
I seem to remember us being the one of if not the biggest club in the world.
Sums it up nicely.Cabaye would be a fine squad player if he came through the ranks - you don't want to go paying £20M+ for him.
This season we will be yes as 4th is the aim now.
To address your other point, we have rarely signed the very best elite players in the world over the past 20 years or so. They've always gone to Barca, Real and now City or Bayern. It's always been about the team being greater than individual players.
This season we will be yes as 4th is the aim now.
To address your other point, we have rarely signed the very best elite players in the world over the past 20 years or so. They've always gone to Barca, Real and now City or Bayern. It's always been about the team being greater than individual players.
Cole, Yorke, Stam, Van Nistelrooy, Veron, Ferdinand, Hargreaves, Berbatov, Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez and Van Persie to name just a few top talents we have invested in over the years.
We are a top side and we are richer than we have ever been. It's time to invest once again, buying Cabaye will get us nowhere.
So, to go back to my actual point, how many of those were the elite world class players at the time of purchase? Veron & RVP probably. The rest either weren't ever at that level or we spent big on young talent and developed them.
So, to go back to my actual point, how many of those were the elite world class players at the time of purchase? Veron & RVP probably. The rest either weren't ever at that level or we spent big on young talent and developed them.
