Yohan Cabaye

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Oh I know, but Shelvey has had a very good start to his Swansea career. If he hadnt failed at Liverpool he wouldnt be something to poke fun at :P he's actually a pretty good player now
Ekeke not sure if your agreeing or not but Cleverley is pure pish
 
Sad state of affairs when some think Cabaye is quality enough to pull on the red shirt of United. He'd simply leave the club still looking for an actual solution to the midfield woes. Good squad player perhaps, but I'd rather have Fletcher of 2008-10. Next.
 
Sad state of affairs when some think Cabaye is quality enough to pull on the red shirt of United. He'd simply leave the club still looking for an actual solution to the midfield woes. Good squad player perhaps, but I'd rather have Fletcher of 2008-10. Next.


I think it is snobbery to think Cabaye wouldn't improve our midfield. He is a talented player with vision who can score goals too.
 
I think it is snobbery to think Cabaye wouldn't improve our midfield. He is a talented player with vision who can score goals too.

Yup. He's a quality good player.
 
So what's the consensus now? Still not good enough for us even though we are dwelling in midtable? I would take him in a heartbeat in January.
 
Followed him closeley today and was unimpressed once again. The chances of us signing him are incredibly slim. We'll sign another and Cabaye will be forgotten about on here instantly.

He wasn't very impressive, but still decided the game while also being arguably the best midfielder on the pitch.

We won't be able to attain the high bracket midfielders in January, with it being a World Cup year and why would the likes of Gundogan leave for us anyway? Cabaye, I imagine will be attainable and reasonably cheap. I would expect a considerable impact from him also.
 
Followed him closeley today and was unimpressed once again. The chances of us signing him are incredibly slim. We'll sign another and Cabaye will be forgotten about on here instantly.


Not a reflection on Cabaye, but it is probably just a bit of an air of desperation as we look around and see the likes of Newcastle with midfielders that are more creative than ours.
 
Not a reflection on Cabaye, but it is probably just a bit of an air of desperation as we look around and see the likes of Newcastle with midfielders that are more creative than ours.
Tiote looked more creative than your midfield. 50 different ways to foul your player.
 
Tiote looked more creative than your midfield. 50 different ways to foul your player.


Kind of proves my point. Tim Krul probably created more chances than Cleverley today,
 
The arrogance of some regarding certain players is embarrassing.

But whatever happens is out of our hands so you've just got to get on with it. For example I was always against the appointment of David Moyes...but its happened and he isn't going anywhere any time soon so we have to get behind the decision and be positive where possible. If Cabaye was to sign (doesn't seem like it...but 'if') I hope you twats wouldn't be all negative and condescending from day 1.
 
Kebab being labeled a laughing stock on here is looking less credible by the week....I think if we can't land Koke then Kebab will be the obvious plan B....I think most fans would prefer a Koke to a Kebab
 
From the Mohamed Salah thread:

ALso strong murmurs that we've opened talks with Newcastle for Cabaye. It seems we've pulled the "engage transfer strategy" lever today.


If Cabaye is tempted to leave, then we should be all over it.
 
From the Mohamed Salah thread:



If Cabaye is tempted to leave, then we should be all over it.

Arsenal turned his head in the summer so I do think he wants to move on from the barcodes. If he's available, which I think he is, and we're not interested we're either retarded or have somebody else lined up, in my opinion.
 
Hopefully we'll make a genuine and realistic attempt to sign better players than Cabaye. If we can't (sometimes it's just not possible) then Cabaye would be a good backup option.

I worry about signing more players who aren't top quality though. We only have room for so many cm signings. The more players like Cabaye we sign the less likely we are to sign a genuinely top class cm, which is what we really need.

We've gone so long without strengthening midfield, it'd be a shame to waste the opportunity now that it's finally here.
 
He would be a decent signing but we should be aiming higher. I think Newcastle will want a significant fee for him as well.
 
He would be a decent signing but we should be aiming higher. I think Newcastle will want a significant fee for him as well.

I agree that we should be aiming higher but if we're intending to bring someone in in January is there any feasible options that are of a higher standard to Cabaye? I don't think so.
 
I'm sick of this discussion as to whether or not he'd be good enough. I almost want us to sign him just so we can put an end to it.
 
I agree that we should be aiming higher but if we're intending to bring someone in in January is there any feasible options that are of a higher standard to Cabaye? I don't think so.


Not sure, always hard to tell because we have so little to go off. It's not like Cabaye is up for sale though, yet we're talking about signing him - point being that all players will have their price.

My priority would be getting someone in January, rather than holding out for the best possible player. So if its slim pickings and Cabaye is the best option then we should sign him rather than holding out until the summer.
 
We see how that's worked out with the Afro'd one...

I still think he'll come good. Can't ever see him being worth anywhere near what we paid, but we've definitely not seen the best of him. Fwiw I think Cabaye would be the best we could do in January.
 
My priority would be getting someone in January, rather than holding out for the best possible player. So if its slim pickings and Cabaye is the best option then we should sign him rather than holding out until the summer.

Funny, my thinking would be exactly the opposite. I'd happily sign nobody in January if we thought we were going to sign a top player in the summer. Struggling in the short term would be worth it if we then brought in the type of player who'd be a stand out cm for years to come.
It's only another few months after all, definitely worth sacrificing for the long term good.
 
Funny, my thinking would be exactly the opposite. I'd happily sign nobody in January if we thought we were going to sign a top player in the summer. Struggling in the short term would be worth it if we then brought in the type of player who'd be a stand out cm for years to come.
It's only another few months after all, definitely worth sacrificing for the long term good.


Yup I can understand that view, but see it the other way. Personally I see no reason why we couldn't sign a good player in January and then a world class player in the summer. So I don't see signing Cabaye making someone like Fabregas unattainable.

But the main reason I want us to sign someone in January is because we need to. We're 7th in the league and haven't played as well as City, Liverpool or Arsenal, at this rate 4th place isn't guaranteed, let alone a title challenge. If we signed someone I think both of those goals are achievable.
 
A few problems with the idea of sign nobody in January if they are not top quality.

1) Assumes only way forward is only sign top quality CM with no room for very good / solid players that can do a job in our squad.

2) Still have some massive games in the second half of the season - getting a CL spot should be a minimum requirement. Getting a very good player like Cabaye could perhaps be the difference in a couple of those games. Not getting 4th at the least could jeopardize whatever plans we have for a really big signing as we would not have at least for a year Champion's League football to offer. Liverpool found it very hard to attract the quality they needed even with their history. Red tinted side says we are more attractive to them but, in today's world where it's Champion's League and/or a truckload of money to get them to want to sign for you.

For a January signing Cabaye also has the benefit of being a premier league player. Other names that have been suggested are from different leagues and even with pre-seasons new players to the league take a while to acclimate.

Cabaye would be a good target not to fix our entire midfield problem but at least add a quality option that can score goals and has a bit of toughness which we can lack at times.
 
He'd be another case of the club signing players that just aren't the right quality.


We need someone who is going to displace Carrick, not another squad player.
 
Thing is, I still think we're going to get a top four place with the squad we have. I also think we're not going to retain the title, regardless of who we sign in January. So for me there isn't much to gain or lose with a short term signing.

I agree that we also need very good/solid players in our squad. We currently have an abundance of them though. Carrick, Cleverley, Fellaini and Fletcher all fall somewhere between very good and solid. What we're currently lacking is top quality. So another very good/solid signing won't do much for us.

Midfield is the one position where we don't have a player who at least has the potential to be top class. That's the type of player we need to improve, not yet another squad player.

Moyes had it right earlier in the season when he said we need a few players who'll improve our first team, not improve our squad. By "improve our first team" I'm thinking they at least have to be around Carrick's level.
 
We see how that's worked out with the Afro'd one...

We still don't know how good or bad Fellaini is. He was signed last minute and has been hampered with injuries. Personally I still think he'll be a good signing for us.

As for Cabaye I've stated many times I'd like us to sign him. Especially if we're determined to add in January as he won't be cup tied and should be able to come straight into the team. He's a quality player that can either be the one pressing forward or playing deeper.

He's better than everyone bar Carrick (though he's better in some aspects) so would obviously improve the side.
 
Until recently Cleverley has not been solid and it's to be seen if he'll continue in that form. Fellaini - may turn out to be solid but, out till Feb and even then his form has not been very good - not shown too many signs of bedding in to think he'll suddenly do so when he is back.

We've already seen what the loss of Carrick can do to us and Jones for some reason keeps getting hurt after a few games. With Cabaye in January we'd have Cleverley, Fellaini, Carrick. Fletcher to me is a bonus but, I'd be weary to rely on his continued availablity. 4 true CM is hardly an overload. We could still add 1 top quality and be okay.
 
For the right price (I have no idea what he would go for really, I don't know his contract situation), I think he would be a great addition in January. Especially if we look to offload Anderson.
 
A few problems with the idea of sign nobody in January if they are not top quality.

1) Assumes only way forward is only sign top quality CM with no room for very good / solid players that can do a job in our squad.

And bloody right too.

We've already got the numbers. We've got Carrick, Cleverley, Jones, Fellaini, Fletcher and that's not counting Anderson and Giggs. We need quality, Champions League quality. A player that will make the difference, dominate games and give us an edge over our rivals. We've got RVP and Rooney up front, we should have similar quality behind them.
 
Does this thread have to be bumped every single transfer window now? Do not want. I should hope that we will be looking for real top quality and not players the standard of Cabaye.
 
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