Yohan Cabaye

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kouroux said:
It's important in teams to have decent squad players who won't bitch about their lack of playing time when there are better players than them at the club. I'm not saying Cleverley should be like that but the club needs to have players like him at the club. Players from the academy and who will accept their limited roles from time to time.
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I agree with that, will he be one of those players though?
I'd imagine he's going to want to be an England regular, he will have a chance if he is playing regularly especially with Lampard, Gerrard, and Carrick in their 30s. So I'm not sure if he's going to be happy being a squad player. He is at the moment as he's only 24, not sure how much longer that will last.

Personally I think Cabaye would be more suited, but I prefer Cleverly as I've saw what he's capable off. It's all very frustrating.
He might start playing to his full potential if he gets a bit of competition, maybe Moyes can get that bit more out of him. I'm not sure if a Sir Alex trusted him 100%
 
Getsme said:
I agree with that, will he be one of those players though?
I'd imagine he's going to want to be an England regular, he will have a chance if he is playing regularly especially with Lampard, Gerrard, and Carrick in their 30s. So I'm not sure if he's going to be happy being a squad player. He is at the moment as he's only 24, not sure how much longer that will last.

Personally I think Cabaye would be more suited, but I prefer Cleverly as I've saw what he's capable off. It's all very frustrating.
He might start playing to his full potential if he gets a bit of competition, maybe Moyes can get that bit more out of him. I'm not sure if a Sir Alex trusted him 100%
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Well the aim is that he improves. I think competition will only help him abit like it did for Fletcher. Who in reality had to overcome Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves and Scholes.
 
Mainoldo said:
Well the aim is that he improves. I think competition will only help him abit like it did for Fletcher. Who in reality had to overcome Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves and Scholes.
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Let's hope. Having a bit of decent competition will do him no harm.
 
Getsme said:
If he adds nothing to the squad for the next couple of seasons then there would be no point holding on to him. If, but I expect it to be when we improve our midfield area will be a telling time for Cleverly, make or break so to speak. I appreciate he came through our academy, however that should have no bearing on his future at the club. He has to fight for and earn his place like everyone else, if he's not good enough, which I think he is, but if he isn't then he has to go.
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True that, but United need a big squad, so I think there's probably room for him. At the moment though, he's just not good enough for the first team.
 
Mainoldo said:
Well the aim is that he improves. I think competition will only help him abit like it did for Fletcher. Who in reality had to overcome Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves and Scholes.
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Not really - he came into our four man rotation because Hargreaves was injured (as were Carrick and Scholes early in the 2008-09 season).
 
ravelston said:
Not really - he came into our four man rotation because Hargreaves was injured (as were Carrick and Scholes early in the 2008-09 season).
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Well obviously he played. He was just far from first choice and had weeks where he didn't make the 17 man squad.
 
Ringo 07 said:
Kebab = better than Cleverley but worse than Ramsey
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If Ramsey keeps his early season form going he'd be better than any of our cms, probably the best cm in the league. Hard to believe he can keep playing that well though so I'm not really sure how highly he should be rated yet. But yeah, Cabaye is certainly somewhere between Cleverley and Ramsey.
 
pocco said:
There's fecking no chance we'll buy this guy. There's no way our scouts will watch what I'm watching and think this is a player that we should sign.
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I've been saying it alot in this thread, but we really should be aiming higher. We already have a few decent to good midfielders, we now need someone above those levels to match Carrick.
 
Sixpence said:
Do we still think that this guy wouldn't simply walk into our team?
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Absolutely would do. Cabaye as an emergency January signing would be ideal IMO. He's about the same level as someone like Arteta who has done fine with Arsenal.
 
Watching him run the show against WBA, showing an incredible range of passing.

If there's any chance he's available we'd be batsh*t crazy not to pick him up.
 
Beachryan said:
Watching him run the show against WBA, showing an incredible range of passing.

If there's any chance he's available we'd be batsh*t crazy not to pick him up.
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Totally. A lot of folk said he wasn't United quality 6 months ago, but anyone would've looked poor in that Newcastle side.
 
People with short memories wrote him off after last season. Quality player and would be an ideal January signing
 
Barkley is my first (realistic) choice - but we won't get him in january, Cabaye would be perfect
 
Anyone can look world class in newcastle vs west brom... I don't trust any midfielder linked to United anymore.
 
I simply can't understand why people whinge about our midfield and then strive to place the likes of Cabaye into it. He's good. At times, he's very good. But it's about time Woodward put the money where his mouth is and actually stumped up the cash, wages and agents fees necessary to sign a midfielder that will genuinely propel the team forwards. Cabaye isn't that guy. We missed that boat in the Summer. Unless people think any of Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley and Fletcher won't be here next September, it's very likely that we'll be signing one midfielder. Let's get this one right, ay?
 
Kag said:
Unless people think any of Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley and Fletcher won't be here next September, it's very likely that we'll be signing one midfielder. Let's get this one right, ay?
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Personally I think Cleverley, Anderson and Fletcher won't be at the club next season, given that Carrick will be 33 next year and we have to rely on Giggs to play there on occasion, it's looking like we could be making two or three signings in that area.
It would be unrealistic of us to think we could sign three world class midfielders in one go, a player like Cabaye would fit perfectly into the club as a squad player.
No one, as far as I can tell is expecting us to sign him as our marque signing, but as a squad player I'd say he's better than what we have.
 
It's not about the money. He's a quality player and better than anything else bar Carrick and even then there's parts of his game that are better than Carrick's.

Plus, as I said before he's an ideal Jan signing. Not cup tied for the CL, knows the league, etc.
 
Getsme said:
Personally I think Cleverley, Anderson and Fletcher won't be at the club next season, given that Carrick will be 33 next year and we have to rely on Giggs to play there on occasion, it's looking like we could be making two or three signings in that area.
It would be unrealistic of us to think we could sign three world class midfielders in one go, a player like Cabaye would fit perfectly into the club as a squad player.
No one, as far as I can tell is expecting us to sign him as our marque signing, but as a squad player I'd say he's better than what we have.
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Absolutely zero chance those 3 mentioned will all leave.

Anderson - Likely
Fletcher - Health permitting
Cleverley - No way
 
I agree with Carl here, we are not going to get the 'world class' midfielder we desperately need in January, no team is letting that calibre of player go mid season. In the meantime the midfield still needs improving, we sign Cabaye in January and he improves the midfield (helps us secure a top four finish) and we go for the big guns (whoever that maybe) in the summer. Look at the midfield talent the best teams have you need depth too. We don't have depth or quality in midfield at the moment (not including Carrick). He is a quality player Newcastle or not.
 
Goooose said:
So who should we buy instead? He's a good midfielder who can attack and defend, score (and assist) from set-peices, and he puts himself about.
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He's ideal for us and would improve us tenfold but some United fans seem to have ideas over their station and seem to think we can attract the elite in midfielders, when it's been proven that we can't. It's also because he doesn't play for Dortmund or some hipster club so that means he's not good enough. Pure snobbery really.
 
Sixpence said:
He's ideal for us and would improve us tenfold but some United fans seem to have ideas over their station and seem to think we can attract the elite in midfielders, when it's been proven that we can't. It's also because he doesn't play for Dortmund or some hipster club so that means he's not good enough. Pure snobbery really.
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Exactly. It's so rare that we actually go out and buy a superstar from a top club anyway.
 
Carl said:
Absolutely zero chance those 3 mentioned will all leave.

Anderson - Likely
Fletcher - Health permitting
Cleverley - No way
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Zero chances?
I'm not so sure about that, unless Cleverley starts to show some form them he won't get games (as many as he wants anyway) it may not be just be a case of us wanting to sell him, he may also want to leave. Let's be honest, he's been average for some time now, he hasn't pushed on as we all had hoped, I wouldn't be sad if he was sold on if I'm honest.

As for Fletcher, even if his health does improve he may never get back to the way he was, he's been out for along time. He's 30 in a couple of months, as hard as it is to say, it may be time to move on.

Anderson, I've never wished for a player to do well more than him, sadly his time is up unless he has a miraculous turnaround.
As I said it's just my personal opinion.
 
Getsme said:
Zero chances?
I'm not so sure about that, unless Cleverley starts to show some form them he won't get games (as many as he wants anyway) it may not be just be a case of us wanting to sell him, he may also want to leave. Let's be honest, he's been average for some time now, he hasn't pushed on as we all had hoped, I wouldn't be sad if he was sold on if I'm honest.

As for Fletcher, even if his health does improve he may never get back to the way he was, he's been out for along time. He's 30 in a couple of months, as hard as it is to say, it may be time to move on.

Anderson, I've never wished for a player to do well more than him, sadly his time is up unless he has a miraculous turnaround.
As I said it's just my personal opinion.
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Yes, zero chance. At the very least Cleverley would be used as a very useful squad player. You don't just bin off homegrown talent.
 
Getsme said:
You do if they're no longer useful, we have had plenty off homegrown talent walk out the door before.
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But he's obviously very useful.

Like I said. Zero chance. Put some money where that opinion is?
 
Carl said:
But he's obviously very useful.

Like I said. Zero chance. Put some money where that opinion is?
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You want to make a bet with me :lol:
He's not very useful at the moment though is he, and hasn't been for some time.
 
Getsme said:
You want to make a bet with me :lol:
He's not very useful at the moment though is he, and hasn't been for some time.
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He's not been useful recently. Very poor in fact but he was obviously very useful last season. Nothing amazing or spectacular but useful all the same.
 
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