So were Arshavin and Zhirkov 6 years back. It's not the best indicator really. I fear a move to United is a pretty big leap for him.
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Sorry, that was unfortunate. That was actually meant to be a response for Ole's_toe_poke's post.
I've edited it now.
Any ukrainians on here or knowledgeable football fans? Has there ever been a Ukrainian player that has been a success in England?
Off the top of my head I can think of Shevchenko who was past his best and struggled, the ponytail at Liverpool who was rubbish, Rebrov was awful at spurs, Luzhny was very average at Arsenal, was there any more?
Off the top of my head I can think of Shevchenko who was past his best and struggled, the ponytail at Liverpool who was rubbish, Rebrov was awful at spurs, Luzhny was very average at Arsenal, was there any more?
Do you think its impossible for some who happens to hold a Ukrainian passport to be a successful footballer in England ?
Did I say it was impossible? There's a pattern of failure there though, if you want to look at Russians too, you could argue none of Arshavin, Pavlyuchenko, Zhirkov, Bili at Everton, Smertin have been successful. Maybe people from that region don't settle well over here.
What pattern of failure are you talking about ? And even if some of the players you cited didn't become world beaters, how does that have anything to do with them being Ukrainian or Russian for that matter ?
He does have a point. It's slightly generalising but maybe players from Ukraine or Russia have hard time adjusting to life in England. Of course there will be a few that don't have this issue but the amount of Ukraine and Russia players that have failed to perform in the EPL compared to those that have succeeded (I can't think of any) cannot be a coincidence surely?
Not only did they not become world beaters but many of them came here with big reputations and for big fees and didn't adapt to the Premier League and in most cases were gone within a couple of seasons.
Shevchenko was £30m
Zhirkov £18.5m
Pavlyuchenko £13.5m
Rebrov £12m (was a lot back in 2000 and Spurs record transfer)
Bilyaletdinov £9m
You'd expect at least one or two successes over the period since Kanchelskis in the early 90's.
If I have a choice of joining #MUFC or staying at Dnipro, I'd choose to stay. But let's wait and see.
From their official website. He can feck off.
From their official website. He can feck off.
He's not going to say openly that he would move in an interview for the website, is he? Also, read the quote properly, he said "probably, but lets not get ahead"
I don't think there is much of a point to be honest. Its simply a broad generalization that has nothing to do with the individual players cited in the examples. There's a good chance the players he mentioned either weren't good enough to make it in the Prem, some may have had poor attitudes, culture and language may have been a factor, media hype surrounding certain players could have been a factor, injuries, falling out with managers, and a number of other variables could be involved. Simply making a broad statement about Ukrainians or Russians is therefore a bit myopic (imo).
No one wants to join us
Its like we're walking around a brothel with a hand-full of million pound cheques and they're still running from us!
Straight cash homie
Are they a communist club? He could never have said that. That would have been the biggest heads gone since Essien's calculator.
Players from Ukraine, Russia do tend to have a poor attitude really. The money issue does not help. They actually earn much more back in Russia, Ukraine, especially if you consider a considerably more favorable tax regimes. Basically these players had a sort of VIP mentality.
He wants to play in front of this every week:
No big deal.
No big deal.
So is the quote actually legit? I've only seen it mentioned from a twitter account from a Liverpool fan?
Yes it is. It was an interview to a local newspaper.
It was a bit of an ambushing to be honest and his answer is a bit more evasive, he said "i'd probably stay, but lets not get ahead of ourselves". But obviusly it's hard to imagine MU is his desired destination from that.
Seriously? He got his priorities all screwed up. feck you ye little piece of shit.Sorry but I just gotta
This time it's really just normal to laugh at us
I mean he could've just said he doesn't know about his future or anything but this is kinda harsh Nothing on Dnipro site about this quote. Or on Ukrainian sites.
http://fcdnipro.com/news/konopljanka-perejti-v-mju-skoree-vsego-ja-by-o-419.html this was the source. Can't read it and just read it on twitter.
Ok, in this interview journalist asked him "Would you like to play for United without CL or for Dnipro without CL?" - and he answered "Probably I would stay. But who knows what the future holds".
So it's a bit out of context, cheers for the translation.
Hardly going to say on a vid for the club site, "feck this place, can't wait to get the hell away".
Kinkladze was from Georgia (USSR when he was born) and was a great success in the late 90s for City
The Guardian are still saying we may trigger his release clause and that he'd be willing to join us despite no CL football so who knows wtf is going on.
If its true that Van Gaal pulled the plug on the Kroos deal because he only wants players with a genuine desire to play for the club then I can't see us going after this guy. If he'd rather stay there then let him, we aren't desperate enough to throw money at players that have to be convinced to play for us ffs.
That idea has no basis in reality, it comes from an almost certainly fake quote.
This time it's really just normal to laugh at us
True. Making me doubt his commitment to football. Probably why we haven't pursued him further.
The owner of Dnipro said a couple of months ago that the lad wanted to join Spurs because he wants to live in London.
Those type of players are best avoided.
His release clause is irrelevant. Liverpool activated it in winter, owner of Dnipro still forced him to stay. I expect anybody who wants him would have to pay close to 20 mil euro no matter what his release clause is.
Completely agree. Didn't know that he had such a poor mindset. Really sounds like Arshavin/Zhrikov II
Really now? How shallow of you.
Shut up Loublaze.
Liverpool tried to pay it in instalments, which a club doesn't have to accept, to activate a release, you have to pay it all up front.