Fist is supposed to be good. No idea about the rest.
Bramble is a great little game set around Nordic folklore and legends. Similar to Little Nightmares and Inside. Would recommend playing it if into those sort of titles.
Fist is supposed to be good. No idea about the rest.
You can get 3 years for £120 (half if you gameshare), less than the price of 2 new games. Stop being daft and do the 3 year sign up trick and don't think about it again until 2026.
Keep up the great work @Redlambs I’m surprised you have the patience to deal with their bullshit
Wait, what? Does this work for PC too? I'm currently paying £10 a month like a sucker.
On the topic of these money tricks and getting Game Pass subs for several years on the cheap, do people ever wonder how sustainable all that is? I mean, just compare how little you are actually contributing to the gaming industry to how much you're getting in return. Of course, I couldn't care less about the largest publishers like EA, Ubisoft, ABK, etc. Those make tons of money and use plenty of predatory monetization models, so feck em.
But still, it's an industry we all care about (at least I hope so), there's a LOT of great studios out there and for most of them it's a struggle to even stay afloat. The whole thing just doesn't feel right to me.
Not enough people take advantage of these loop holes to make a difference.On the topic of these money tricks and getting Game Pass subs for several years on the cheap, do people ever wonder how sustainable all that is? I mean, just compare how little you are actually contributing to the gaming industry to how much you're getting in return. Of course, I couldn't care less about the largest publishers like EA, Ubisoft, ABK, etc. Those make tons of money and use plenty of predatory monetization models, so feck em.
But still, it's an industry we all care about (at least I hope so), there's a LOT of great studios out there and for most of them it's a struggle to even stay afloat. The whole thing just doesn't feel right to me.
You are probably right about that, but isn't that the line of thinking that people use to justify basically anything to themselves? It's ok if I do it, not everyone will, it won't make a big difference, etc.Not enough people take advantage of these loop holes to make a difference.
Not enough people take advantage of these loop holes to make a difference.
You are probably right about that, but isn't that the line of thinking that people use to justify basically anything to themselves? It's ok if I do it, not everyone will, it won't make a big difference, etc.
Bramble is a great little game set around Nordic folklore and legends. Similar to Little Nightmares and Inside. Would recommend playing it if into those sort of titles.
Yeah, I don't want to come across as judging or whatever. I'm just as "guilty" of trying to get the best deal, by almost exclusively buying stuff on sale. We all decide for ourselves how much we are willing to put in and that's fine, piracy aside. It just feels that the cost vs value balance isn't there with these subs, especially when considering the various hacks to save even more.You mean at the highest levels though right? Because down the line people eventually suffer. Same as piracy. Though not that I'm comparing, I have no problem with people (who aren't hypocritical MS mouthpieces) getting the best deal they can on things. Piracy and stealing is a whole another level, and even then none of us can claim innocence.
But, the smaller teams/companies do feel it in some way. That's a fact. That's the reason I don't do these tricks to save money, because I've felt the cost. But if people are playing games and enjoying them then that leads them to more in the future, I have no judgment to make on those that want to pay as little as they can for these subscriptions.
However bare in mind it's very easy to research and look at the gaming industry and all the teams/companies fallen by the wayside for reasons you think have nothing to do with you or the company you side with or the choice to pirate or take advantage of these schemes.
Studios get paid regardless of how much people pay for GP. If you buy three years worth of Xbox Gold on CD Keys Microsoft has no idea if you paid full price for those keys or not. They got their money when they sold the keys to sites like that in the first place.On the topic of these money tricks and getting Game Pass subs for several years on the cheap, do people ever wonder how sustainable all that is? I mean, just compare how little you are actually contributing to the gaming industry to how much you're getting in return. Of course, I couldn't care less about the largest publishers like EA, Ubisoft, ABK, etc. Those make tons of money and use plenty of predatory monetization models, so feck em.
But still, it's an industry we all care about (at least I hope so), there's a LOT of great studios out there and for most of them it's a struggle to even stay afloat. The whole thing just doesn't feel right to me.
I know that, but that's exactly what I meant when I said how sustainable it all is. MS can't subsidize it forever. For what it's worth, I also stay away from stuff like CD Keys.Studios get paid regardless of how much people pay for GP. If you buy three years worth of Xbox Gold on CD Keys Microsoft has no idea if you paid full price for those keys or not. They got their money when they sold the keys to sites like that in the first place.
If MS was bothered by the trick they would have closed it by now and wouldn't allow third party sites to sell keys.
Only nerds who have played every game three times over think its bad. Don't listen to them.As someone who isn't an avide gamer and hasn't had a console for a decade, I love GamePass. Let's me play so many older games I hadn't played before. Don't get any of the criticism around it here.
On the topic of these money tricks and getting Game Pass subs for several years on the cheap, do people ever wonder how sustainable all that is? I mean, just compare how little you are actually contributing to the gaming industry to how much you're getting in return. Of course, I couldn't care less about the largest publishers like EA, Ubisoft, ABK, etc. Those make tons of money and use plenty of predatory monetization models, so feck em.
But still, it's an industry we all care about (at least I hope so), there's a LOT of great studios out there and for most of them it's a struggle to even stay afloat. The whole thing just doesn't feel right to me.
I'm one of the ones who doesn't do it.You are probably right about that, but isn't that the line of thinking that people use to justify basically anything to themselves? It's ok if I do it, not everyone will, it won't make a big difference, etc.
As someone who isn't an avide gamer and hasn't had a console for a decade, I love GamePass. Let's me play so many older games I hadn't played before. Don't get any of the criticism around it here.
Studios get paid regardless of how much people pay for GP. If you buy three years worth of Xbox Gold on CD Keys Microsoft has no idea if you paid full price for those keys or not. They got their money when they sold the keys to sites like that in the first place.
If MS was bothered by the trick they would have closed it by now and wouldn't allow third party sites to sell keys.
If they weren't getting paid properly then why would they add their games to the service? Plenty of developers have said they love GP and that it has done wonders for their games.This is shortsighted, plus assumes that those "studios get paid" properly.
It's also talked about above by numerous people why MS haven't closed "the trick" yet.
Despite what I said yesterday, Bramble does look pretty good. Same vibes as Planet of Lama from last month.
I know that, but that's exactly what I meant when I said how sustainable it all is. MS can't subsidize it forever. For what it's worth, I also stay away from stuff like CD Keys.
Only nerds who have played every game three times over think its bad. Don't listen to them.
Seems like you actually do get the criticism, considering your qualifier.
Anyway, the shift to the spotify/Netflix/GP model really doesn't matter to people in general. You are in the majority there.
But it's great you get to play this stuff, that's what it should be like. Same as with all the entertainment mediums there should be an easy open and fair method for everyone to use. But it should also be one where the people creating those things are looked after too which further helps the content coming out.
It just sounds too good to be true. How can it be 1) cheap - or ridiculously cheap for people using hacks, 2) great for devs and 3) profitable for MS, all at the same time. The only way I can see it adding up is if devs see it as a nice income stream to complement earnings from traditional sales, with the latter often being the bulk of their earnings. I guess I'm just worried about a potential future where everything is sub based and people stop buying games.Gamepass is profitable. And lots of devs have said its worked great for them and have gone back to the platform.
New revenue models will always shake things up. People point at TV but as far as I'm concerned streaming services have created the golden age of television. We've started to fatigue on subscription models and that's why it's important that not every game has to go down the subscription route and Nintendo and Sony are proving that can continue to be the case. New models will come especially with a rise in streaming included more ad funded/subsidised models but that'll take some time yet.
People point at TV but as far as I'm concerned streaming services have created the golden age of television.
For all the shit you spout this is the peak.
It just sounds too good to be true. How can it be 1) cheap - or ridiculously cheap for people using hacks, 2) great for devs and 3) profitable for MS, all at the same time. The only way I can see it adding up is if devs see it as a nice income stream to complement earnings from traditional sales, with the latter often being the bulk of their earnings. I guess I'm just worried about a potential future where everything is sub based and people stop buying games.
Go watch Corrie mate.
Mad to think people still champion these idiots at Xbox still not figured out creating great games gives you a fighting chance.
Instead in typical Microsoft fashion they have just tried to buy there way out and bulldoze through, currently it’s a failure and the ship doesn’t look like it’s turning round anytime soon.
On a positive not I was pleasantly surprised at what I saw of starfield, purchased gamepass ultimate myself just so I can play the exclusives through the cloud on my iPad through the browser, that is cool i must admit.
Xcloud wanker
Need a reason to use my fancy elite controller
It’s understandable given the immense quality of exclusives they’ve released in the last year such as… uh… Redfall, and …. Uh…
If they weren't getting paid properly then why would they add their games to the service? Plenty of developers have said they love GP and that it has done wonders for their games.
https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...-praise-xbox-game-pass-following-games-launch
https://gamerant.com/indie-games-playstation-store-xbox-game-pass/
https://gameinfinitus.com/news/yaku...ontributed-largely-to-series-success-in-west/
I understand that if you're a very avid gamer who wants to play games as soon as they are released, and have played past titles in previous gen consoles, then GP would only make sense for Xbox exclusives since they will have a day 1 release most likely. But again that doesn't count for me and honestly wouldn't count for lots of other people I think.
The other point about people not getting paid, how are you aware of this that developers aren't paid well if their game is on GP?
Gamepass is profitable.