Brilliant! Might dust off my glow sticks and see if dealer Dave Is still in business.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Brilliant! Might dust off my glow sticks and see if dealer Dave Is still in business.
I could be wrong, and it could have been said already, but aren't some people using toilet roll to stop their skin touching things, a piece to open a door, bin it, a piece to hold a takeaway coffee, bin it, a piece to hold a shopping basket, bin it, etc.
Whatever they are beyond selfish, and need to take a long look at themselves.
Explains why we let it spread in such a generous fashion.
It reminds me the day where The Black Pearl said that he was going to the disco.
So my friend who traveled to Vietnam has it, he went last Friday. 10 people on his flight over to Vietnam tested positive and he was tracked down by the Vietnamese police. They came to his hotel, tested him on Friday and he's come back positive today. Been taken to hospital and currently awaiting results of a 2nd test. The thing is he is on that day 7/8 day from the day he potentially caught it and he's saying neither him or his GF are showing any symptoms and he feels OK.
So you can see why it's being spread so easily, especially where there are cases where symptoms are non-existent or so mild they are hardly noticeable. Even more so when the media are really playing on the most serious cases.
Oh also he has shown me a lovely text message from one of the hotels he previously visited begging him not to tell the hospital where he had been so they didn't shut the hotel down.
So you can see why it's being spread so easily, especially where there are cases where symptoms are non-existent or so mild they are hardly noticeable. Even more so when the media are really playing on the most serious cases.
Oh also he has shown me a lovely text message from one of the hotels he previously visited begging him not to tell the hospital where he had been so they didn't shut the hotel down.
The closure of the PL has nothing to do with the government.
This is a break down of the UK govt approach in simple terms by someone qualified.
Professor Ian Donald
@iandonald_psych
Psychologist:Social, & Environmental research, & behavioural factors in Anti-Microbial Resistance. Emeritus Professor, University of Liverpool. Typos all my own
The idea that essentially the WHO approach is reactive and only delaying an inevitable storm at a greater social and economic cost overall.
Well China's low because it's a massive country and they had to lockdown a province the size of a European country to contain it (~60m people). I think Hubei province's cases would be in the 100s/million.
Too early for France, Netherlands and Germany yet.
Conor McGregor's aunt apparently died of coronavirus, or so he says.
JFC.
100% voted leave.
Are these countries late when compared to Switzerland, Spain, Norway or Denmark?
Anyone know if there is any truth in the claim that you can catch it again, after recovery?
His firefighting analogy is bizarre, considering a tactic for putting out wild fires is starting new controllable fires that burn through the flammable areas.
Some people saying that's likely a testing error...
Bit of a selfish question, as I am self employed and need to keep earning, but whats the deals in France and Italy with self employed people? Are they made to stay indoors during this lockdown as well?
Hmm, I'm not sure now. I think there's a few different factors at play, and I'm not capable of getting my head around many of them.
But the symptoms did disappear and came back later.
A silicon valley entrepreneur who has written a book about Star Wars, no less.
JFC.
When I see this I can only assume that they either A. Run a business or B. Are hedging their bets and intend to sell it in a few weeks time.
Thanks - how is this used in treatment? Is this injected or made into an oral drug?
This is insane. UK is signing a Holocaust on its own people. To make things even worse, no one is able to answer any of these questions:
1) Are we sure that the disease won’t return?
2) Are we sure that the fatality rate won’t be higher than 1-3% (it is currently 7% in Italy)?
3) Are we sure that the virus won’t mutate on something more deadly?
4) Are we sure that there won’t be long-term consequences (in worst case HIV-like) for the survivals?
No one has any clue to answer any of these questions, but somehow they’re ok with 50 million people catching it within the year.
This is beyond madness!
Discotheque
Not as bizarre as your analogy. Which has no relevance whatsoever to preventing viral spread.
You been to a supermarket in the past week? Just wondering if people have been panic buying like in the UK?
We did our shop on Monday morning and it was all normal but not been since.
Seems absolutely crazy when you consider how hard countries like Norway, Denmark et al are working to shut down.
Surely the UK strategy is a huge gamble? I wouldn’t like to be living there now, that’s for sure.
I think the gist was that the symptoms disappeared but the virus was still present or something.
Here are 2 reddit threads discussing it:
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My dry cough has gotten a little bit worse
I was this morning and it was quiet, no toilet paper and pasta though.
I still don't understand this logic.
Let's say he's right - after all, he's a professor - and herd immunity is the only way now. But what until we achieve that? Simply letting the virus explode all over the health systems of various countries will have devastating consequences and a staggering death count. Surely, surely, measures that delay that explosion and grant health services time to prepare, to amass more resources and such are necessary and good?
Because this UK idea seems to be simply that the most vulnerable should have the decency to die quickly, the rest should preferably not seek medical attention but wait until it passes. It's all-round weird.
According to epidemiologists in Belgium, a new virus will never mutate into something more deadly since it’s basically “a teenage virus which hasn’t learned to live with its human yet”. If it would become more deadly, it would kill its carrier thus be ineffective as it actually needs its human carrier to survive itself. Or something like that. Anyway according to multiple experts here - if it’ll mutate it’ll be for the better.
I’m currently in Jordan with a return flight to Amsterdam scheduled tomorrow night. Jordan has suspended all air travel as from Tuesday so I’m really hoping my flight goes through or I could be stuck here for a very long time which I really don’t fancy right now. Just wanna be fecking home again even if it’s way worse there atm.
You’d be a pretty shit Hitler if this was your means of genocide.
1) The virus is likely systemic now. It isn’t going anywhere unless a miracle is found. That’s why we need a vaccine.
2) Yeah, we’re certain. Higher mortality rates will only occur if the health system collapses and those who develop complications don’t get the timely interventions they need. Most will self treat and brush it off, or be quite ill but still recover.
3) We don’t know, but we’re going to have to deal with that problem anyway. We already vaccinate against mutating viruses annually.
4) The stigma of being HIV+ is far worse than the reality of living with it, provided you follow treatment. People live a full life nowadays. This is a completely different type of disease regardless.
And how do you propose to shutdown society for the 18 months its touted to get a vaccine into circulation? I mean in economic and social terms?
Theres a theory that the virus still lingers in the body -- It's basically dormant. Then it flares up again suddenly.
Can anyone remember what we used to talk about before covid-19 went mainstream?
Well, yeah, I don’t know why he brought it up! You do things all the time that make things worse for a better long term outcome. I’m not sure what he was trying to say.
The UK Policy is nothing more than an economy driven one and stalling for the Easter holidays. Change my mind.
Hypothetically if we were 2 months away from an election would BoJo implement the same measures?
From what I have read, we don't really know. That's why I believe that it's best to stick to the way the symptoms evolved when someone ask that type of question, the rest is pure speculation.