SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Yeah, but I'm not aware of any businesses doing that. I get the angle of numpties buying loads to make money over charging people from this sort of thing.
I would certainly hope so
Unbelievably selfish twats. Shame on all of them.
In other news, someone in their early 20s has just been admitted to an ITU in a hospital in Ireland with suspected Covid 19 (test results pending) No underlying health condition. I suspect karma will come for a lot of people on the piss tonight, sooner than they think.
Quote me in a month re WW3.
Again, they have doctors and nurses, and ICU beds and ventilators. If 5 million people get infected at the same month (modelled by a uniform distribution) with 5% of them requiring intensive care, you will have 250k people in intensive care. You have 5000 ICU beds (3000 of them are occupied). This means, from those 250k people who require intensive care, 248k don’t get it. Not hard to imagine what happens with them.
It actually doesn’t matter what distribution it is. A Gaussian with a higher peak might put 500k or more needing intensive care at the same time, but again it doesn’t matter.
I have read somewhere to gargle with vinegar or salt water, but no idea if it can help in anywayMy dry cough has gotten a little bit worse
Yeah I've read somewhere that ICU is up to 80% capacity in the UK as it is. Feck knows how will deal with people 5,000-10,000 suspected cases who are infected who will undoubtedly infect others. 15% of that number will require hospitalisation in the coming days. I'm really struggling to wrap my head around how the government are planning on dealing with those numbers when your local A&E is a shitshow every weekend.
Putting aside whether the UK response is best for it's own people for a second, how is it going to affect other countries with more strict policies? If we're trying to develop a herd immunity then we need people to get the virus, doesn't this completely undermine other countries who are trying to prevent transmission, Unless we are quarantined island?
I'm not saying the UK government approach is right. I think it's a massive gamble like most people do. I just object to the smug pontificating because the truth is that no one knows how this going to play out. China may have stopped this outbreak with the kinds of draconian methods only available to a totalitarian regime but the fact remains that this highly contagious disease will highly still exist in the environment when they lift those measures and may blow up bigger. This isn't a short term issue by all accounts so looking at it in that way isn't helpful. It's obvious that extreme isolation measures will work because the virus can't jump from host to host, you didn't need these lock downs to tell you that. But then what?
Preach to someone else, you're echoing the exact point I made earlier. My point here is that there is in fact an available cohort that could, within 2-3 weeks, serve as a reasonable proxy for determining the base deathrate in an unstressed health system. I am claiming no more or less than that. Obviously the deathrate would increase from there once we inevitably run out of beds.
I wonder what would happen if we closed the pubs (which I'm sure is only a matter of time)? I can't help but feel that people stupid enough to go on a piss up now would also be stupid enough to start having house parties once the pubs aren't an option.
Maybe just temporarily ban the sale of alcohol entirely. I'm sure that would slow shit down.
They would probably riot
The rest of the world will quarantine you period.
My wee brother is out tonight, the fecking muppet. Fully prepared to catch it off him.
My friends and I were planning a mad one for about a month and we've had to cancel. Instead we're just going to have a social gathering in the house providing we all feel okay next week.
Poverty will kill millions more before their healthy life expectancy. Looking at this through the narrow lens of just minimising COVID-19 deaths today and tomorrow will create ever bigger problems in the future.
I don’t know what to say. This is going to likely be the most significant negative event since WWII and only really the advent of the Internet will have changed the world more. No matter what we do, millions and millions will die over the next year from COVID-19. I don’t see how any Western European country can now possibly avoid that, we’re way too far on and we’re all paying the price for China’s initial cover up.
I literally couldn’t care less about being right on much of this. In fact, I hope I am wrong and a miracle happens, and all the senior leaders around the world suddenly find the golden approach and adhere to it.
With the ridiculous amount I have read over the last three months, I can though see why the UK’s current approach has been chosen, despite its implications. There’s not any amount of money that can avoid a catastrophe from this, with any amount of lockdown.
Can you show me your math on this? Or links to wherever you read this.
If the rest of the world are hiding in their bedrooms for 18 months then what difference would it make?
It would nearly be worth it, just to revel in the chagrin.
Particularly relevant in the case of Ireland, where you have an open land border between the two approaches which thousand of people cross every day for work.
People who shop selfishly in supermarkets should be put down. Fecking reprobates.
Amazing scenes in Naples though
Obviously not gonna generalize but feck me americans can be fecking crazy People stocking up chips, ice creams, cookies, sugar beverages
People stocking up chips, ice creams, cookies, sugar beveragesSounds the three little pigs.
Other people like the nation who shares an island with Northern Ireland?
Totally. "Ah it will be grand," attitude amongst so many.
Even trying to tell my parents that the shit will hit the fan in the next few weeks and they dont care.
Meanwhile in Benidorm:
We are fecked. It was good knowing you. It will be pandemonium now in two weeks time in ireland.
Country should have been locked down completely bar the shops and pharmacies.
Too late now. We have crossed the event horizon.
Well lets take China for example, there's no other hotspots there while it did reach every area despite a lockdown. Obviously a lockdown will contain it a lot but what could happen when Wuhan/Hubei is back to normal and out of lockdown is this area is now immune and those unfortunate have died with the virus but it's a low number of 2-3000 in one area, what makes it start again or this be the engine room to restart it? How has this virus that reached every area in China not created another epicentre while seemingly not many people carrying this have created an epicente just as bad in Italy?
I just wonder if a high strain from Wuhan was brought to Europe, could be 1or a handful of people but generally as we've seen around China it can diminish and not take hold in other areas. If all it takes to start Italy off is a traveler from China to Europe, how did another region in China not go into overdrive?
Italy, like China, may have seen the worst it can do.
Theres a longer video and another showing Insigne singing to it where he's standing on a balcony.
Just when I start to not worry as much I read this thread and you’re all going mental.
Is this even true?
Good news has been postponed until further notice.
No, people are allowed to go to work. If they're stopped by the police, they have to submit a form which is widely available which just says who you are, where you're from, where you're going and what is the reason for making the journey. Going to/from work is one of the permitted reasons for travelling.
The only thing that will wake this country up is when we inevitably follow in Italy's path. Once an absurd amount of people start dying, those toilet rolls will come in use as those who don't fear this virus will also be the first to shit themselves. How on earth did we let this escalate to this point in 2 fecking months?