Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?

  • Sack Ole & appoint new coach ASAP

  • Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild

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M Bison said:
i do understand where you’re coming from and in an ideal world yes, we should have done. My concern in going for it, we’d have had to sacrifice a holding midfielder and that would worry me.

From my perspective going in to the game today, I’d have taken a draw personally.
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Like I said, it’s not the draw, just the manner of it. Both managers were to blame for that.

Worst derby I’ve watched in years. And in a way I’d have rather lost after a good tear up. And I’m not saying that in a ‘lose to get the manager sacked’ way either.

Dunno dude, I’ve just been so disappointed with our performances lately I was just hoping for more. Just sharing some Prosecco with Mrs Volumiza now watching Strictly so feel a bit better and life goes on:)
 
Rightnr said:
So you agree he should be kicked out but you just don't want to admit some 'negative nancies' called it earlier than you did?

OK.


100%. But what really gets me is that even if they were average, they still had 2-3 clear chances to score and we had the sum of feck all. Maybe that corner and what else?

People going on about us 'controlling the game'. If Mahrez scores that 1v1 instead of taking 5 touches, our tactics fall apart because we couldn't create a chance to save our lives.
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Huh? So taking a stand after considering recent results instead of assuming things at the beginning is frowned upon? Should I've made assumptions at the start?
 
Ole is in survival mode and thats obvious.
The board doesnt wanna fire him unless we lose a couple of games to low level teams and drop below 10th.
 
Sultan said:
Did I say that? I was referring to today's game.
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Today there really was no reason at all to not press them or attack more in second half. They were extremely beatable. Saying "it would have gone either way" isn't logical at all.

We dropped 2 points today.
 
Volumiza said:
Like I said, it’s not the draw, just the manner of it. Both managers were to blame for that.

Worst derby I’ve watched in years. And in a way I’d have rather lost after a good tear up. And I’m not saying that in a ‘lose to get the manager sacked’ way either.

Dunno dude, I’ve just been so disappointed with our performances lately I was just hoping for more. Just sharing some Prosecco with Mrs Volumiza now watching Strictly so feel a bit better and life goes on:)
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Ha ha, fair comments, enjoy the Prosecco matey...

strictly though :smirk:
 
Berbaclass said:
It's the manner in which we played more than anything. There was no ambition in the team whatsoever.
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We play it safe and set up to counter . This is nothing new against tough opponents and it has worked for a good number of times. Only this time City also played it safe
 
Berbaclass said:
It's the manner in which we played more than anything. There was no ambition in the team whatsoever.
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Don't think we played badly or went too defensive. We in fact went man to man and tried to take the game to them. Pressed them well in the first half and then eventually wore out maybe due to the fatigue midweek where as city had luxury of resting players as needed. Pep came here for a draw with his two sitting mids which he rarely does got a point.

Both teams are within touching distance from top. Nothing to go over the top today.
 
Let's just accept we're not good enough to be attacking and pressing for a win against this City side. This was a decent result in our circumstances. If we want to be a glass half full then being disappointed with the result is a sign of progress

Desperately missing fans.
 
Godfather said:
And yet it's you throwing insults around and create a fiction in your head in which Ole has done more than LvG or Mou when both of them actually won us trophies
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OK. Mou had done better. But if you think winning a fa cup while regressing is better than being 3rd and being in 3 semis then maybe I'm wrong
 
Berbaclass said:
It's the manner in which we played more than anything. There was no ambition in the team whatsoever.
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We only made 1 sub. Didn't bother to make the other 2 subs to try and win 0-0 at home. Says it all.
 
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GailSpaceWynand said:
All the fecking moaners are here again? Cheers. Don't think this is gonna last but seriously.
He has bought us to a level we wouldn't have been under any other manager post SAF. Even if it didn't work out he has done more than LVG, Moyes and Mou.
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Moaning all week wed get battered. Now moaning we didn't win.

They are an absolute joke.
 
VP89 said:
Are you watching the coverage :lol:

Gary Neville has said multiple times, at least 3 that I've heard on commentary and post match, that United you can understand cautiousness because they got KO'ed of Europe and need to build confidence. But Pep has no excuse. There is a ridiculous pass on United's performance the way I see it.

The fact that we didn't actually try to win a derby (because that's whats happened) is quite sickening to me. It's City at home in a derby, who aren't a shadow of what they were in 2018, and we didn't even bother to try and win the game at 0-0. In fact, we were under the cosh with 20 minutes to go, they were actually probing our box trying to force some opening.
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I am not defending our play today but it was not like we were parking the bus. It has been a difficult week for us so we would always be more cautious in comparison to City. It was not like City had 30 shots to our 5. We had 11 shots and they had 9. They just had more ball possession which is normal but even that stats wasn't that bad it was 46 to 54. It was just that sort of game where both managers didn't do much.
 
el3mel said:
Today there really was no reason at all to not press them or attack more in second half. They were extremely beatable. Saying "it would have gone either way" isn't logical at all.

We dropped 2 points today.
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Or gained one.
 
Sultan said:
I understand City are not the same team we've witnessed over the last few years. However, they are still one of the best teams in the Premiership and I'm sure every team in the league would take a draw.
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In isolation you are right the result is fine. But going out of the CL this week, you expect a response. What we got is a manager who was happy not to lose to get some heat off of him.
 
Bobcat said:
So City are shite now? Pep has been there 5 years, so i guess hes taken them backwards? Is Pep shite?'

City needed 3 points just as much as us. They are still behind us on the table. The reason they hardly created anything was because we had a very, very good defensive display. Structured, disciplined and great individual performances from everyone involved.

Considering we have been leaking like leaking like a sieve so far this year this was very encouraging and will no doubt give our back 5 some much needed confidence.
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City are a shadow of team they were 2 years ago and they’ve probably seen best of Pep. They were running away with title two years ago, we’re on same points and pretty much same position as two years ago. Today showed how far they’ve fallen and how we are pretty much same as ever post SAF give or take slight ups and downs.
 
Sultan said:
Let's just accept we're not good enough to be attacking and pressing for a win against this City side. This was a decent result in our circumstances. If we want to be a glass half full then being disappointed with the result is a sign of progress

Desperately missing fans.
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I kind of agree with this dude, yes, a point is better than none and yes, being disappointed with the result is a sign of progress. The bit I don’t totally agree with actually is the first bit. We’re not so bad we can’t at least try and attack and press. I think we’re good enough to have a crack at it.
 
Sultan said:
Or gained one.
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For you maybe, for me this was a winnable match really. City did nothing extraordinary today to not say we couldn't have defeated them.

I wasn't bothered with Chelsea draw and thought it was fine but this one was winnable.
 
AshRK said:
I am not defending our play today but it was not like we were parking the bus. It has been a difficult week for us so we would always be more cautious in comparison to City. It was not like City had 30 shots to our 5. We had 11 shots and they had 9. They just had more ball possession which is normal but even that stats wasn't that bad it was 46 to 54. It was just that sort of game where both managers didn't do much.
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But the media didn't slate United for being cautious, they actually attacked City for not taking us.

I agree with caution but I disagree with not actually trying to create more than we did after 70 mins. I think at that mark we really needed more changes, and thats why I'm not surprised we were really under the cosh.

Even when parking the bus, we look to try and win the game by being ruthless on a counter and would make subs that can change the game after 65/70 minutes. VDB staying put when we were desperate for his energy just stunk for me.
 
anant said:
Making a 19 year old perform like a 27 year old? Even Fergie failed with Ronaldo in that case
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You're all brilliant at phrasing things to spin an argument in a way that shields the manager from criticism. It's all nonsense and I'm not going to entertain it, but you're brilliant at it none the less.
 
If I'm not mistaken, we should be beating all non- top 6 sides home and away as they are a level below us, beat all top 6 sides at home as we're at home, beat Spurs, Arsenal away as they aren't CL quality sides. City are apparently not good enough and we should beat them away as well in future.
Basically, apart from Pool and Chelsea away we should win all games.

In Europe, we should be getting better of last year's finalists and SF as are a shadow of what they were a few months ago.
 
VP89 said:
But the media didn't slate United for being cautious, they actually attacked City for not taking us.

I agree with caution but I disagree with not actually trying to create more than we did after 70 mins. I think at that mark we really needed more changes, and thats why I'm not surprised we were really under the cosh.
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Honestly I didn't mind the way we played today . What frustrates me is we should have been this compact against Leipzig when we only needed a point. Could we have been more ambitious, well maybe but then Ole would have thought let us not lose and beat Sheffield and Leeds. I don't mind that approach this season. Lampard is doing the same against big teams. Even Pep did that against Pool and now against us. Play smart and we might be competing for something.

Having said that I do understand people being frustrated and calling it 2 points dropped. I will be more frustrated if we don't end up with 3 points against Sheffield.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Moaning all week wed get battered. Now moaning we didn't win.

They are an absolute joke.
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Hey its not us claiming we should've won but the team that should have battered us should atleast have more shots on goal than us. But then again I don't know what is right anymore.
 
Ole is a very cautious manager though. You can't win titles with someone like that. The team seems to take risks only when it is safe or when we are under scrutiny. Ole shouldn't speak of United DNA again
 
Sultan said:
Let's just accept we're not good enough to be attacking and pressing for a win against this City side. This was a decent result in our circumstances. If we want to be a glass half full then being disappointed with the result is a sign of progress

Desperately missing fans.
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Sorry Sults but “this” City side aren’t actually all that and we’re very much beatable.

There was nothing decent about that today.
 
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