Wilshere's price?

alastair said:
Wilshere's performance against Barcelona wasn't special. He's done that loads this season already - he's a different level to Fletcher entirely.
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thread now going in a direction I hoped it wouldn't, which is with arse idiots thinking its funny to demean United players with their baseless opinions. A shame. I was enjoying this thread so far.

Wilshire is clearly nowhere near the standrads of Darren Fletcher. He is nowhere close. His is better now than Fletcher was at 18, sure, but Fletcher is streets ahead of him now, even though he is in a bit of s downward dip in form right now.

Can we just have some neutral and serious chat for once?
 
Sharky7 said:
Fair enough, I'm one of those that has been extremely disappointed with Fletch this season, he seems to have taken 2 steps back from last year.

For me Wilshire has had a far better season than Fletch thus far.
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I think although Wilshere's been good its Song who's really taken another step up and is putting himself in the top echelon of midfield players. The game is made a lot easier for Wilshere and Fabregas due to the ground covered by Song.
 
sammsky1 said:
Wilshire is clearly nowhere near the standrads of Darren Fletcher. He is nowhere close. His is better now than Fletcher was at 18, sure, but Fletcher is streets ahead of him now, even though he is in a bit of s downward dip in form right now.
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Wilshere is a better player than Fletcher, ignoring age.

A player who is 19 can be be better than a player who is 27, age is not important, when you have Wilshere's maturity and talent.

I am a Fletcher fan, but I would prefer Wilshere in our side, if I being honest and not biased.
 
Scholesy said:
Wilshere is a better player than Fletcher, ignoring age.

A player who is 19 can be be better than a player who is 27, age is not important, when you have Wilshere's maturity and talent.

I am a Fletcher fan, but I would prefer Wilshere in our side, if I being honest and not biased.
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I would take Wilshere in our squad, due to his ability and talent. But surely if you were picking a side Fletcher would get in over Wilshere every time?
 
Fiskey said:
I would take Wilshere in our squad, due to his ability and talent. But surely if you were picking a side Fletcher would get in over Wilshere every time?
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I like Fletcher but Wilshere has already transferred his talent into consistent and good performances for Arsenal. In a tough away match, I would pick Fletcher, but Wilshere for most matches.
 
Wilshire has heaps more potential than Fletcher, but it will all be moot as he's ruined by the national indulgences; hype and expectation.
 
Wilshires performance the other night is so overrated. He's a fine talent but some of the praise thrown at him was borderline ridiculous. He didn't toy with Barcelona or anything. He had a couple of nice moments, that's it. It was a good performance given his age. He wasn't brilliant. And I almost always have great things to say about him.

How is he a bigger talent that Rafael? Not the best young player in England but definitely one of.
 
Wilshere's a very down-to-earth sort of guy from what I've seem and heard. His biggest problem at the moment is his herbert mates going up West wiv 'im and getting lairy.
 
alastair said:
That's a depressing post. Cheer up, he might keep his head straight and be the next Bobby Moore.
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For me that's an even more depressing thought. It took about 50 years after the last one to realise it was a once off.
 
peterstorey said:
Wilshere's a very down-to-earth sort of guy from what I've seem and heard. His biggest problem at the moment is his herbert mates going up West wiv 'im and getting lairy.
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Aye heard that.

'Down to earth' doesn't mean chav cnut btw
 
First of all there's no way Arsenal would sell him for any reasonable sum of cash but secondly, and perhaps most importantly, he loves the club and doesn't want to leave.

I'd love for us to sign him but it's never gunna happen.
 
cw1984 said:
First of all there's no way Arsenal would sell him for any reasonable sum of cash but secondly, and perhaps most importantly, he loves the club and doesn't want to leave.

I'd love for us to sign him but it's never gunna happen.
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cw1984 - the voice of sense in almost every thread.
 
peterstorey said:
You cannot be serious. Wilshere looks like the real deal in CM at 19. Rafael looks like the new Glen Johnson.
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:lol:

You're a joke. Rafael is ridiculously good for his age. Forget the monster performances against lesser teams, he's kept his opposing attacker in his pocket almost everytime he's played a big game. The kid is the definition of real deal.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
:lol:

You're a joke. Rafael is ridiculously good for his age. Forget the monster performances against lesser teams, he's kept his opposing attacker in his pocket almost everytime he's played a big game. The kid is the definition of real deal.
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I think Wilshire is the real deal too to be honest.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
:lol:

You're a joke. Rafael is ridiculously good for his age. Forget the monster performances against lesser teams, he's kept his opposing attacker in his pocket almost everytime he's played a big game. The kid is the definition of real deal.
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Looks like an accident waiting to happen to me... except the refs have been kind (pens v Blackpool and Wolves not given).
 
peterstorey said:
Looks like an accident waiting to happen to me... except the refs have been kind (pens v Blackpool and Wolves not given).
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:lol:

As much an accident as wilshire. He's brilliant. But you keep on living in dreamland.
 
alastair said:
cw1984 - the voice of sense in almost every thread.
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alastair - the voice of wummage in almost every thread.

I have to agree with what's been said about Wilshere here, about his personality and such. He does seem a very down to earth, likeable young chap. Always comes across intelligent and genuine on his twitter too - which I am a follower of.

Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he stayed at Arsenal for his whole career. Seems the loyal type that's for sure.
 
peterstorey said:
Looks like an accident waiting to happen to me... except the refs have been kind (pens v Blackpool and Wolves not given).
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When we start seeking defensive pointers from gooners we'll send you a PM pete.

I was down ballaghaderreen way during the week btw, feck all hapenning in case you're wondering.
 
Rafael is a better player than Johnson already, who's an absolute liability. Although Rafael isn't there yet, he's definitely a very good prospect.
 
peterstorey said:
Brilliant my arse. You dropped him for O'Shea against City.
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And? Osheas a brilliant squad player. He could replace any of your defenders and do a fine job. At united we pick teams and tactics to win rather than being proud of an unsuccessful yet stubborn approach. We went for height against city, worked well. Doesn't take away from rafaels immense talent and current level of play.

It's quite clear you barely ever watch united so its best you steer clear of making yourself look silly.
 
Not a defender, yet another wannabe winger. Johnson looked good at WHam but got found out soon enough.
 
Are Arsenal fans of the last five years the most cocky fans in the world of any period compared to actual footballing achievements?
 
amolbhatia100 said:
And? Osheas a brilliant squad player. He could replace any of your defenders and do a fine job. At united we pick teams and tactics to win rather than being proud of an unsuccessful yet stubborn approach. We went for height against city, worked well. Doesn't take away from rafaels immense talent and current level of play.

It's quite clear you barely ever watch united so its best you steer clear of making yourself look silly.
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Do one will you. Sagna's the best fullback in the league by miles. We wouldn't be dropping him for fill-in player like O'Shea. Rafael on the other hand was clearly considered a defensive liability in a big game.
 
Seriously pete, you should stop talking about Rafael because you clearly don't have a clue what you're on about and you just look like even more of a prat that normal.
 
Hed go for about 45 million, being realistic. If he wanted to leave, he'd go for 25 million to a Spanish club or 35 million to an English.

Is he worth it ?

He looks good anyway.
 
peterstorey said:
Do one will you. Sagna's the best fullback in the league by miles. We wouldn't be dropping him for fill-in player like O'Shea. Rafael on the other hand was clearly considered a defensive liability in a big game.
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We know how to handle our young players. And what young defender no matter how brilliant he is, isn't prone to the odd mistake? You live in a place called utter delusion where everything arsenal is brilliant and you form half baked and awfully concocted judgements about things you don't know much about but still have to have an opinion on, a strong one and one that serves no other purpose but to suit you.
 
peterstorey said:
Do one will you. Sagna's the best fullback in the league by miles. We wouldn't be dropping him for fill-in player like O'Shea. Rafael on the other hand was clearly considered a defensive liability in a big game.
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Poor WUM attempt.
 
R_Nick said:
Seriously pete, you should stop talking about Rafael because you clearly don't have a clue what you're on about and you just look like even more of a prat that normal.
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Don't spout bollox - he was dropped for the derby because he's a defensive liability.
 
You're unsurprisingly talking crap. O'Shea was favoured for the derby match because of his height and his experience alongside a rookie centre back in Smalling. You consistently talk nonsense about Rafael which shows clear as day that you either don't watch United's games, don't understand defending or are just ignoring the blatant truth to go on the wum. I honestly don't know which of those it is. It could be more than one, to be fair.
 
peterstorey said:
Don't spout bollox - he was dropped for the derby because he's a defensive liability.
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Rafael played a full 90 minutes against Arsenal in December, where we kept a clean sheet and beat you incidentally.

By your logic, this either means that Arsenal don't pose as much as an attacking threat as City, or more likely it means you are completely wrong.
 
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