Care to name one who has cost less than £25million?
I don't think the likes of Modric, Fabregas, Fletcher or Essien would cost any less than £30 million in todays market.
Wilshere's price?
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Care to name one who has cost less than £25million?
I don't think the likes of Modric, Fabregas, Fletcher or Essien would cost any less than £30 million in todays market.
How good is Pogba? Is he the closest we have to a Wilshire or McEachran right now within our own youth system?
Arsenal supposedly want £80m for Cesc so the £60m for Wilshere can't be too far off. No way in hell is Cesc an £80m player.
Arsenal won't sell Wilshere though, so not much point in discussing it.
Arsenal won't sell Wilshere though, so not much point in discussing it.
I haven't seen a lot of him, admittedly, but from what I have he's really been brilliant. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he came along to be the next massive young talent in English football.
Rafaels the best young player in the league not wilshire and performing at a much higher level.
As Al said you're living in 2005. What do you think the 18-year-old Rooney would cost from Everton today?To think what we paid for Rooney, and then to claim Wilshere is worth over double that.
How can you fail to see I'm refering to the 30-60m money?
Just to remind people that we paid £10 million up front for Rooney. Even for someone who had done what he had done just recently for England, and with a couple of seasons experience of first team football at a high level - we still didnt want to hand over more than that up front. Over time we obviously paid a lot more than that, but there is a reason it was only a third of the overall fee up front. No doubt it'd be the same with Wilshire
But £60 million for a 19 year old with 1 start for his country, and just over half a season as a starter for his club? Its unprecedented. And just plain wouldnt happen.
Arsenal would take a long, hard look at a £40 million offer for any of their players other than Fabregas. Some of the players they'd eventually decide to keep, some they would sell. Chances are that if Arsenal asked for more than £40 million for one of those players, the interested club would no longer be interested and the sale would never happen.
But £60 million for a 19 year old with 1 start for his country, and just over half a season as a starter for his club? Its unprecedented. And just plain wouldnt happen.
Arsenal would take a long, hard look at a £40 million offer for any of their players other than Fabregas. Some of the players they'd eventually decide to keep, some they would sell. Chances are that if Arsenal asked for more than £40 million for one of those players, the interested club would no longer be interested and the sale would never happen.
You don't sell a prospect like Wilshire, just like you don't sell a prospect like Bale. And if you are, you sell for stupidly inflated prices.
If I was at Arsenal I wouldn't sell Wilshir for anything less than 30. That's pretty generous considering he's going to be at th heart of the English midfield for the next 10 years...
If I was at Arsenal I wouldn't sell Wilshir for anything less than 30. That's pretty generous considering he's going to be at th heart of the English midfield for the next 10 years...
£12 million for England's best young defender, in a bidding war with Arsenal - so the two top clubs in England at the moment
£60 million for England's best young midfielder.
Not quite right
And before anyone mentions England's best young striker... He's on loan, not at Liverpool
£60 million for England's best young midfielder.
Not quite right
And before anyone mentions England's best young striker... He's on loan, not at Liverpool
Why?
I suppose the argument would be Smalling wasn't - if indeed he is now - the best defender in England at the time of selling him. He was a guy with a few PL games under his belt.
£60m's probably steep but I honestly don't see Wenger parting with him for anything other than absurd money.
Agree about the last line.
I with you on this one PS. The reality is that alot of United fans feel emasculated within the confines of the transfer market these days because we dont have the might that we once had. And so, yes, there is a degree of envy when huge transfer fees are are splashed by other clubs.
Theoretically, if Manchester City won the title this season or next and it was clear that they had in place an infrastructure for future success (like SAF in 1992) then Im sure a fee of £50m would make sense to all (assuming Wilshire is todays equivalent to a 1998 version of Rooney). The reality for United is that we just cant make these signings right now due to our financial constraints. We will still be successful into the future, just not through the methods we previously used. And Im fine with that.
I think that is what Rooney would cost as the 18 year old manboy that he was when we bought him.
Whats the latest view on Bale's value? Admittedly he now has a couple of seasons of 1st team training as well as CL experience now but its not a bad comparison.
Again I say, like it or not, the Carroll mugging of Liverpool will have left its ridiculous mark on the Premier League transfer market for young British players.
Again I say, like it or not, the Carroll mugging of Liverpool will have left its ridiculous mark on the Premier League transfer market for young British players.
Sorry but if you are the best young player in Europe, then you should have more goals than Gibson. Lukaku is a much brighter prospect
English : Check
Young : Check
Played a few good games : Check
Well thats all we need to make him our next messiah.
The great problem with the English mentality to football is that we are obsessed with idolising players which the media feeds upon and promotes to dizzying heights.
Young : Check
Played a few good games : Check
Well thats all we need to make him our next messiah.
The great problem with the English mentality to football is that we are obsessed with idolising players which the media feeds upon and promotes to dizzying heights.
Gibson is nearly 23... Not a valid comparison.
He has quite extraordinary balance and I think he is quicker and able to beat players more easily. He is similar to Wilshere. Wilshere is great too, and has aggression/tenacity, which I don't think McEachran has.
Fair enough, I haven't seen as much of McEachran as I have of Wilshere. Wilshere has done it on the bigger stage of the two though.
Not saying he is the best young player, but that's stupid logic.
People saying 15-18m must seriously be mental.
Why has my tagline been changed?
This is not fair, can I not have something normal, like First Team Player.
This is not fair, can I not have something normal, like First Team Player.
This is RetCaf where Fletcher is worth £25M.
If you stick a decimal point in there, it's about right.
Yep. Doubt he'll ever let him go, but if he did, it would not be for less than 30-35m.
WUM.
No. You'd just be another idiot like Peter Storey.
Well yes you are, regardless of whether Untied's post was cack or not.
Is that a joke? Even using Carroll as a bench-mark, how could anyone decide Carrick was worth £25m or Rafael £45m?!
Using Carroll as a benchmark peterstorey.
I was clearly exaggerating, but he's not worth £25m.
He's not worth a penny more. It's a kid for god's sake. Give him a norwegian name and his value would be 400k. This is just another crap promise and it's not going to end up well. I've seen him in other games than THIS SINGLE ONE, and it didn't impress me especially much.
2-1 win vs. Barca...and we're back at being the most annoyingly pompous fans around the e-land!
If he didn't impress you that much, and you think he'd be 400k if he were Norweigan, then how is he worth as much as £18m in your view?
No wonder Glazer won't sell up for £2Bn they're sitting on a £1Bn squad.
I think you're mixing us up with Marching. The caf didn't exactly cover itself in glory with its painfully grudging attempts to downplay Arsenal's glorious triumph.
Pogba is a different player to Wilshere and MacEachran.
Wilshere is priceless.
I was giving my realistic view on a player based on what the world is like today. It's called living in the real world - something you gunners could try doing instead of putting 2,5m price tags on 3 times PL winner (and CL winner + other cups.) player.
So being blown up by the media, playing for a team that happened to beat barca on their night off and of course being english, on that I base my valuation of him and it's a fecking generous one.
The prices in the market now make no sense, I mean Carroll went for £35M yet Eriksen is touted as £18M in most articles, £25M tops, but here I am seeing posts of £60M for Wilshire because he's English, insanity.