He doesn't have legendary status for me. For anyone that feels he does then fair enough - Bruno legend of United the Banter Years.
Will Bruno achieve legend status at utd?
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He left Utd after 10 years with 6 PL titles, 2 FA Cups a CL and 366 games and 126 goals.
Scored an equaliser on his debut.
Top scorer in his debut season (I think)
Ran 60/70 yards to take Rob Lee down
Scored 4 vs Forest as a sub.
1999 Late Winning goal vs Liverpool in FA Cup
1999 CL final winning goal
Scored 25 goals in 2001
Played right wing to replace Beckham & still scored goals.
And after a rough 3 years with injury he came back and scored some crucial goals. 2 in a 2-0 win over Newcastle.
He also might still hold the record for the most goals scored as a substitute for Man Utd
Legend or Cult hero? For me he's a legend.
Bruno is more towards the cult hero side of things for now, personally I think he needs to lift the title as captain. If he did that after wading through all the shit to get there. I think then he might be considered a legend
you ”think”
Yeah, that's maybe the wrong word. But when it comes down to it, he probably needs that one big trophy to really claim legend status.
I'd fecking love to see him lift the PL trophy, it looks unlikely but if he sticks around like Robson, he might just get his hands on it.
Fair enough mate, I honestly don't feel right to judge the legend status for most of the United legends anyway. I started supporting United only in 2007 and even if I read up on the history, it certainly isn't the same as living through it. I also know that Best, Charlton and a few others are legends, I know that because so many on here and in books and articles about football say the were and so I just go with it. In 99 I was more pleased seeing Bayern players cry after such a devastating way of losing because I somehow hated them with a passion (even when I had little to no interest in football during that time).
The things you listed are pretty impressive no question but I never had the feeling that he gets talked about in the same way as indisputed legends like Rio, Cantona or Keane. Maybe one of the main reasons why I was so quick to question the decision to make him permanent manager while he had a lot of credit in the bank for so many fans who witnessed him as a player
Best player of a very bad bunch thats all
He has been too inconsistent for us till now, but can still turn it around.
Out of interest is Kane a Spurs Legend?
Of course
Despite not winning anything he has scored a lot of goals for them, and they dont exactly have any recent history of winning trophies or legend status players.
He is their all time top goal scorer.
Not a chance.
If I see him lift the premier league trophy, I will reconsider my answer, but even then I think it would be a no.
If I see him lift the premier league trophy, I will reconsider my answer, but even then I think it would be a no.
He never will for me.
Obviously no.
Leader of worst ever Utd Prem team.
Leader of worst ever Utd Prem team.
My fear for Bruno is he will become something like Bryan Robson was for us, a great player but never got to play with a team around him worthy of him.
Changed my mind. Bruno might already be a legend - if not he will reach that status by leading the club out of this post-Glazer malaise. He might never get the reward of a big trophy here, but he deserves the unwavering support and gratitude of the fan base for being an absolute warrior while those around him flake and faulter.
We’ve had so many fair weather players who have the quality but can’t be arsed (Martial, Sancho, Rashford), or players who want to try and have the quality but are constantly injured (Shaw, Mount), or players who try hard and are always available but are just a little bit short on quality (McTominay, Dalot, Fred, Maguire).
Bruno through some of our most rotten years has been the one bringing the quality, effort, and availability consistently. He’s also one of a handful I could say with any confidence that he could be playing in title challenging teams elsewhere.
Look at him now. He’s trying to be our best midfielder and our best #10 in every game.
Bruno through some of our most rotten years has been the one bringing the quality, effort, and availability consistently. He’s also one of a handful I could say with any confidence that he could be playing in title challenging teams elsewhere.
Look at him now. He’s trying to be our best midfielder and our best #10 in every game.
What a great timing for a bump of this one
No one deserves it more. He's carried us since he came in through the absolute worst united team in history. Always clutch, always giving it 110% every single game. Running non stop like he's Ji Sung Park and basically being the only damn player that actually keeps trying.
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Not for me. As others have said, best of a bad bunch, but would he have gotten in a Fergie team in front of Robson, Ince, Keane, Scholes etc? Of course not.
He's already a legend in the shower of shit
Not for me, will be remembered for being a good player in a really bad period. We've had so many other better players that are ranked above him, whilst entirely not his fault he’s up against guys who have multiple league titles and CL winners, some even won the ballon d’or. Also, despite all the goals and assists I can hardly remember them, maybe that assist in the fa cup final against city is the only one.
Whilst he would probably make legends status for smaller clubs for his performances, not at a club like United with its history and standards.
Whilst he would probably make legends status for smaller clubs for his performances, not at a club like United with its history and standards.
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I don’t know if quite legend status but I’ve got a hell of a lot of time and respect for his efforts with us and that won’t change.
Sadly for him he’s been the best player in a series of average teams and this abysmal one.
Sadly for him he’s been the best player in a series of average teams and this abysmal one.
Unlikely considering the standard of the team he is playing in. Being the best player in this team is not legend status
Club legend it is.
Delusional. Just delusional.
I think time is always kinder to players like Bruno. We won’t remember the times he gave the ball away cheaply, but we will remember the big moments, goals, dragging us back into games like he has done twice in the past week…
I think he probably will go down as a United legend. The fact he gave his prime to this shitshow will count for a lot with fans when he’s hung up his boots, it isn’t purely about what you win.
I think he probably will go down as a United legend. The fact he gave his prime to this shitshow will count for a lot with fans when he’s hung up his boots, it isn’t purely about what you win.
He deserves to play for a better club there's no doubt about that. I don't think he's good enough for a Real Madrid or City but he deserves better than us
You mean the big moments like when we went out of the FA Cup after playing like the underdog at home at OT? Or the relegation clash against Ipswich that was decided by three set pieces? You think thats big moments people will remember?
I guess your list of legends is pretty long then.
I was talking about the Everton game, but yes. Chances are he’ll be seen as the best player during a very lean period for the club, just as Robson was in the 80s. Not that I’m comparing the two obviously, but that’s the lasting impact I think he’ll have on the fans.
he just needs one PL title to be one
It's either crazy or a sign of the times Bruno is even mentioned in this vein.
He's a decent player, and great in the odd moment, but lightyears from being a club legend.
I've seen United teams since the mid 90s. Teams packed full of legend and I don't mean to be too disparaging here but in 30 years time nobody will remember the Bruno years but everyone will still know about Scholes, Rooney, Ronaldo, Keane, Cantona, Schmeichel, Van de sar etc.
Half the time people are calling him terrible and saying things like 'our captain' in the performance thread.
Almost feel like this thread was created disingenuously.
He's a decent player, and great in the odd moment, but lightyears from being a club legend.
I've seen United teams since the mid 90s. Teams packed full of legend and I don't mean to be too disparaging here but in 30 years time nobody will remember the Bruno years but everyone will still know about Scholes, Rooney, Ronaldo, Keane, Cantona, Schmeichel, Van de sar etc.
Half the time people are calling him terrible and saying things like 'our captain' in the performance thread.
Almost feel like this thread was created disingenuously.
The Everton game where we gloriously came back to achieve a glorious 2:2 draw after being behind and without a shot on goal for 70 minutes? I know I am a bit unfair mate but I seriously can't see that as big moments. Not losing a game simply doesn't do it for me...
I wasn't around when Robson played so I don't know whether his standing back in the day was comparable to Bruno right now but from what I read, thats not case. He, just like Maguire or Rashford, will probably go down as symbols for this era of the club, maybe a little more fondly for Bruno but still.
Question: if United were a mid table team historically, would he be a legend?
Possibly,. But then Legends status depends upon your club stature.
If a small midtable team wins a couple of cups with a player that carries them through season after season then it's possible fans will see that eras players as.legends as they are long remembered.
I'm sure Wigan Somewhat see their fa Cup winning players as legends to some extent, as do Wimbledon.
However if you're United, your legends bar is way higher, you. Win leagues champions leagues get to finals all the time.
The jury is out as to whether Bruno is good enough to lead teams to titles, and if he had better players around him they may be more likely to be the legends than him.
I don't even think he's always been the best player in the worst era of United I've ever known.
I know it sounds like I'm ragging on him now, I don't mean to he can be a great player, but it's only because I find this thread an odd one.
He's just using them as examples ffs. There are many other games where he's come up clutch. FA Cup final assist comes to mind.
Yes, absofeckinlutely, especially after everything that has happened so far this season. Without him we would be looking at relegation.
To be considered a legend he would have to win the league or CL.
Whilst being the best player by a mile in the worst period is something, it's probably not the stuff of legends
Not without having Robbo style leadership on top.
Not without having Robbo style leadership on top.
Never in a million years would I class Bruno as a legend at the club for a number of reasons.
I get that we've been historically great but we aren't anymore. Bruno may not be a legend but expecting any one player to lift the squads of the past five years to PL or CL greatness is a wild ask.
I've never fully grasped what a legend is in this context. Be that as it may, I do think he has been a standout player for us during a period when things have been on the downturn for the club.