what has hart done wrong there?
What has actually happened to Joe Hart?
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Nonsense. These are professional footballers, they are expected to receive the ball under pressure, let alone receive it in plenty of space. It's a very English trait to be scared of passing/receiving the ball to someone under pressure. Hart is perfectly entitled to play a ball out to Fernando there. His shit first touch and then stupid decision to play it to the side are the only things to blame here.
Very strange to blame him for the goal. No chance we'd be blaming De Gea if he merely passed it to Smalling who had time (but not as much as he thought he had). Saved a penalty as well, so a very good night for Hart.
I don't think he was to blame for that goal but the second goal with him palming it out to PSG for a tap in was not great.
I think it was a poor pass considering Fernando had 3 players around him but he only gets punished because fernando is so shite.
It was a poor decision to pass it to Fernando as Fernando is utter shit.
Wait a min. I thought it was obvious that Fernando fecked it up with a heavy touch. You might blame Hart for not calling out to Fernando that Zlatan was coming hard, but it would have been too late anyways.
Not really Hart's fault IMO. Fernando was in enough space when he played. You could question the sense of the pass in footballing terms as what exactly could Fernando do with it beyond passing it back.
Hart did was he's probably been instructed to, since most top sides wants to play out from the back.
Pass to Otamendi(?) at the side of the box or he had quite a bit of space that he could have easily opened up to the right side of the pitch and played a simple dink pass to Sagna(?) on the wing. Seriously, this is supposed to be a professional footballer here, a central midfielder at that, he should be used to having the ball with a bit of pressure.
Harsh I think.
Pressure or no pressure, goalies should always refrain passing short down the center. You want to pass it short, play it to the side. At least if something goes amiss, your teammate could put it it out for a throw-in. That was stupid from Hart.
After how Hart's short pass to DiMichelis resulted in him getting injured in the United match, I would wonder why he thought it was a good idea to try it again. The defender has to receive the ball, control it and turn and in both cases there was a striker perched right on their shoulder and resulted in a feck up. No doubt Fernando is the main culprit here but why would Hart even think this is a sensible ball to play.
Totally, completely and utterly unnecessary from Hart. He could have done anything with the ball, but he passed it to someone on the 18 yard line who had an opposing player almost on top of him.
Think he should be pushing it safer. But the first isn't Harts fault even though Warren Barton thought it was.
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Thought the same. Maybe it's a bit harsh, but it didn't look like a totally uncontrolable situation to me. And Hart does it so often compared to the top keepers in the game who often find a way to palm it further wide or control it. Hart just seems happy to get his hands on the ball and doesn't care where the rebound lands. It's just not good enough. He gives too many second chances to the opponent. It's not a huge blunder or anything like that, but a great goalkeeper does better in these situations most of the time.
Wouldn't blame him for the first goal either, that's completely on Fernando, and credit to him for saving another penalty.
Yep Balu agree 100%
First goal not Hart's fault at all. Fernando had the option of giving it back to him or passing to Sagna (or even belting it for a throw). Keeper has to trust the players around him, especially a central midfielder, not to do fecking stupid things on the edge of the box. Completely Fernando's fault.
Let alone that his first touch was atrocious for a professional footballer.
What happened to this place...that wouldnt surprise me a one bit.
He's not at fault for passing it to Fernando (a CM coming that low is expecting to receive a pass and should be aware of what's going on around him; also, he shouldn't be so shit), but I do think Hart should have moved back to his spot in goal straight after the pass, he seemed to freeze somewhat. It's his only fault in this instance for me.
I feel the criticism for the second goal is a bit harsh, but I'd probably need to see it again, maybe he could've palmed it farther, but that didn't seem the case on first viewing (and then my dickhead PSG supporting friends were jumping around and shouting).
I feel the criticism for the second goal is a bit harsh, but I'd probably need to see it again, maybe he could've palmed it farther, but that didn't seem the case on first viewing (and then my dickhead PSG supporting friends were jumping around and shouting).
The perfect goalkeeper would've palmed it further away from the goal, but it's a mistake every goalkeeper could make. It's a bigger problem that Cavani gets too much space for the header and Rabiot isn't marked at all, and generally Hart is the most consistent performer for City.
Yeah, I'd have expected most anyone on here to have a better first touch.
The biggest mistake was his body position. Very poor for an international player.
The most important question is whether he influenced the game in a negative or a positive way for City. I think most of us would agree that he was one of the factors that they got a good result. Especially saving the penalty was cruical because PSG might have added another one in that phase.
Fernando is entirely to blame there, thought he had more time than he had and paid the price for it with the heavy touch.
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Roy Keane went to town on both defences......Said they were both shocking for this level and cost 149 million too much based on that evidence last night.
Interestingly enough, he included Hart in it, saying he should have been dictating to his defence throughout the match
Interestingly enough, he included Hart in it, saying he should have been dictating to his defence throughout the match
Goalkeeper's organization isn't something that seems to be mentioned often enough any more, all about dramatic saves.
Makes a change from the likes of Rio and Lineker, talking about how his "mind games" and "tactics" made Zlatan miss his penalty
No the most important thing for a gk is was he steady and didn't do anything daft?
It's quite a recent development in our play but Simon Mullock, Mirror journalist close to City, tweeted that Hart's been instructed to play it short because we have no one who can win a goal kick up front. Which is true and is something we should have done a long time ago, there's only so many times Hart can pointlessly hoof it up for Navas/Sterling/Silva/de Bruyne/Aguero to be beaten in the air. Hart will have to improve under Guardiola, his distribution is pretty poor. The poster trying to blame him for the incident yesterday and the Demichelis one is unjustified though, they were the outfield players faults 100%.
Possibly, but he is right footed remember. He was remaining where he was to keep himself as an option for Fernando to return the ball, that way Fernando can play it at an angle away from the goal and onto Hart's stronger foot to clear it. As for the second goal, I'd love to know what the hell Hart is supposed to do. Ibrahimovic is right in front of him and he can't return the header the way it came, his only option is to push it the way he did and then he just has to hope a defender gets there first.
Hart is instructed to play it short yet only tried it once during the match? Waiting until midway through the first half to do it? When youre supposed to keep it tight?
Makes no sense. Hart in the derby didnt try that tactic until the start of the second half.
Lets see what happens v West Brom. Ill place money we wont see it at all.
Edit it was 4 mins before half time v PSG. Makes it worse
Makes no sense. Hart in the derby didnt try that tactic until the start of the second half.
Lets see what happens v West Brom. Ill place money we wont see it at all.
Edit it was 4 mins before half time v PSG. Makes it worse
Why doesn't Hart dive there? It looks like a save-able goal in the final seconds to me. No?
So what are you suggesting, that he's not been instructed to kick it short? You'll have to explain why Fernando was stood on the edge of the box then for a goal kick.
He was saying 'look Pep I am a sweeper keeper'. Well that is what he was trying to say.
Taking short goal kicks has very little to do with being a sweeper keeper.