Westminster Politics

So how is this allowed again?



I could be wrong, but it seems the UK is the only country that actually allows this to happen? In Australia and from what i've seen in the US, politicans have blurred the line continuously between being interviewed and just getting on TV for puff-piece bits.

However Dorries is acting as a TV host, as a sitting MP, pushing a political party narrative. How is that legal in any regards? How can a sitting MP be allowed to host a show for the sole purpose of parroting their party position and defending other MPs?
 
I could be wrong, but it seems the UK is the only country that actually allows this to happen? In Australia and from what i've seen in the US, politicans have blurred the line continuously between being interviewed and just getting on TV for puff-piece bits.

However Dorries is acting as a TV host, as a sitting MP, pushing a political party narrative. How is that legal in any regards? How can a sitting MP be allowed to host a show for the sole purpose of parroting their party position and defending other MPs?

australians and yanks can’t be trusted to tell it like it is, like our illustrious betters.
 
And the whole heckling and jeering whilst someone is talking or making a point is so puerile. I don't remember it being like this growing up (so it could be recency bias) or just another depressing facet of this incarnation of a Tory government.
I remember learning about it in school as a special feature of British parliamentary tradition, so I always assumed it's been like that for a very long time.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-your-money-65079792

The UK is poorer as a country, partially because of the War in Ukraine and partially because of COVID says Michael Gove.
But not a mention of the 13 years of this Tory government policies and not even Brexit.
Isn't it convenient that he can blame the 2 things that Tories claim that they have no control of.
Totally deluded.
 
Banning laughing gas after their own experts advised them not to. Starmers labour nodding in agreement.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-your-money-65079792

The UK is poorer as a country, partially because of the War in Ukraine and partially because of COVID says Michael Gove.
But not a mention of the 13 years of this Tory government policies and not even Brexit.
Isn't it convenient that he can blame the 2 things that Tories claim that they have no control of.
Totally deluded.
COVID and Ukraine war were absolute gifts for those that delivered Brexit.
 
An overlooked aspect of Nitrous Oxide is that is a very powerful pollutant that contributes to climate change.
It is rightfully banned for recreational use.
 
An overlooked aspect of Nitrous Oxide is that is a very powerful pollutant that contributes to climate change.
It is rightfully banned for recreational use.
We need to look at Portugal for a functioning policy on drugs. It's a proven case study that demonstrates how backward our whole philosophy is.
 
We need to look at Portugal for a functioning policy on drugs. It's a proven case study that demonstrates how backward our whole philosophy is.
Last time I was there, in Porto, I had ropey-looking individuals trying to sell me what was purported to be weed every couple of hundred metres, so not sure they're the gold standard of drug policy.
 
The problem I have with gas users is that they just chuck their bottles away so you're left with them all over London. Fecks me right off. Clean up after yourself you nob.
 
The problem I have with gas users is that they just chuck their bottles away so you're left with them all over London. Fecks me right off. Clean up after yourself you nob.
I came across some youths who had bought helium by mistake. They were very disrespectful. I told them I wouldn't be spoken to in that tone...
 
Last time I was there, in Porto, I had ropey-looking individuals trying to sell me what was purported to be weed every couple of hundred metres, so not sure they're the gold standard of drug policy.

Not just Porto. We had the same in Lisbon almost as soon as we got off the cruise ship.
 
Last time I was there, in Porto, I had ropey-looking individuals trying to sell me what was purported to be weed every couple of hundred metres, so not sure they're the gold standard of drug policy.
Not just Porto. We had the same in Lisbon almost as soon as we got off the cruise ship.

So just because they tried to sell you weed we will chuck away studies that only shows improvement?

https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight

.... deaths per million among people aged 15-64, compared to the EU average of 23.7 per million (2019). They are practically incomparable to the 315 deaths per million aged 15-64 experienced in Scotland, which is over 50 times higher than the Portuguese rates...

...the proportion of people sentenced for drug offences in Portuguese prisons has fallen dramatically from 40% to 15.7% in 2019. Now below the European average...

...In any event, Portugal continues to retain one of the lowest rates of drug use in Europe...

..It had over 50% of all new HIV diagnoses attributed to injecting drug use in the EU in 2001 and 2002 despite having just 2% of the EU population. In 2019, with only 16 new diagnoses, it only had 1.68% of the EU total...

...A 2015 study found that the social costs of drug use in Portugal fell 12% between 2000 and 2004, and 18% by 2010...

Give me weed ropey-looking dealers everyday
 
Last time I was there, in Porto, I had ropey-looking individuals trying to sell me what was purported to be weed every couple of hundred metres, so not sure they're the gold standard of drug policy.
I dont think the availability of weed is the most relevant aspect of a drug policy. People not dying, prisons not being full, low rates of drug use are better measures where portugal are ahead of the vast majority of european countries having been one of the worst.
 
So just because they tried to sell you weed we will chuck away studies that only shows improvement?

https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight











Give me weed ropey-looking dealers everyday
I dont think the availability of weed is the most relevant aspect of a drug policy. People not dying, prisons not being full, low rates of drug use are better measures where portugal are ahead of the vast majority of european countries having been one of the worst.
They were selling more than weed. I don't particularly care that they do, although it got boring being accosted by them. It's more that it didn't exactly paint a picture of a country in control of its drug situation when there are dealers on every other street corner. Fine if the numbers stack up, but I've never been approached as often for drugs as I was on that trip anywhere in the world.
 
They were selling more than weed. I don't particularly care that they do, although it got boring being accosted by them. It's more that it didn't exactly paint a picture of a country in control of its drug situation when there are dealers on every other street corner. Fine if the numbers stack up, but I've never been approached as often for drugs as I was on that trip anywhere in the world.

Thats what decriminalization brings. Not all policies ate 100% positive in every aspect and to everyone. Certainly things can always be improved, but the numbers are pretty much conclusive.

Your weed story, is that, a story. Is pointless as a counterargument for the success of portugal dealing with drugs and its consequences as it was quoted as counterwight.

If someone says "we should try to do like portugal in that policy", any sensitive person should say "feck yes" . Not quote a touristy experience or you might think that spain is magaluf
 
Thats what decriminalization brings. Not all policies ate 100% positive in every aspect and to everyone. Certainly things can always be improved, but the numbers are pretty much conclusive.

Your weed story, is that, a story. Is pointless as a counterargument for the success of portugal dealing with drugs and its consequences as it was quoted as counterwight.

If someone says "we should try to do like portugal in that policy", any sensitive person should say "feck yes" . Not quote a touristy experience or you might think that spain is magaluf
It's not pointless, it's a fact and as you yourself said, 'that's what decriminalisation brings'. Whether it's the lesser of two evils is a different question.

If you're going to decriminalise stuff, I'd rather you could buy it through outlets where quality can be monitored, so I'm not buying a bag of marjoram on the street or coke cut with benzocaine etc...
 
Not just Porto. We had the same in Lisbon almost as soon as we got off the cruise ship.
Near Faro on a family holiday, getting the same offer every fifty yards in a marketplace. Starts off with some random asshole offering you a shitty looking gold chain, and when you don't take them up on that offer you get the side eyed whispering "hashish?" Dad got his wallet pinched in the same market and the police accused him of lying about it. Good times.
 
The problem I have with gas users is that they just chuck their bottles away so you're left with them all over London. Fecks me right off. Clean up after yourself you nob.

Criminal records for littering would solve this one. I’d rather everyone was blisteringly high all the time if they also threw trash away respectfully.
 
It's not pointless, it's a fact and as you yourself said, 'that's what decriminalisation brings'. Whether it's the lesser of two evils is a different question.

If you're going to decriminalise stuff, I'd rather you could buy it through outlets where quality can be monitored, so I'm not buying a bag of marjoram on the street or coke cut with benzocaine etc...

Is a fact. An irrelevant fact to the discussion because is a individual tourist fact when you dicuss national policy. Many tourists gets stolen in las ramblas. Guess who is not stolen: "me and any of my friends or family members"

Again. Counterweight a proven record successful policiy that has affected tens of thousands of people in terms of adiction, criminal records/prison time, health improvement like aids, mental health,others, improve social stigma.Afected the entire population of portugal (millions) saving on public money with "but i got offer weed when i was on vacation so hey, there is that maybe we should think about it" is ridiculous.

Any european country would kill for these improvements so a goid starting point would be replicating what portugal did adapted to the country specifics

Then, i will wholeheartly agree that there is room for improvement, but is hardly a reason to counterweight all the good that portugal achieved. "Solving my drug countries problems vs increasing slightly the problems for stupid tourists that takes drugs in a foreign country" no contest.

You were smart and didnt buy it. Cant you wait 2 weeks to smoke weed at home for the sake of the whole population of portugal to not overturn their policies because poor stupid tourists?