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Interesting
She would in theory at least get the votes of 2/3 MP's I think...
I wonder if she thinks she has a better chance of winning an election than she does of surviving conference
She must think she has nothing to lose. This parliament can't pass wind, not to talk of passing a brexit agreement.
Thought this was a interesting takeThinking again. Another GE forces Corbyn into a corner. He's won't get away with trying to campaign without talking about brexit. Coming out for brexit or another vote could cost Labour some marginal seats.
Interesting
She would in theory at least get the votes of 2/3 MP's I think...
I wonder if she thinks she has a better chance of winning an election than she does of surviving conference
Point one is quite good to be fair.Apparently, these are her 'selling-points':
1. 'She's not Johnson/Gove/Rees-Mogg/Corbyn'.
2. 'She's admirably bloody-minded'.
Jesus...
Possibly but she won't get a deal she can get through parliament so she's as good as gone... Either then or even before hand at conference (because a defeat there pretty much halts negotiations and guarantees the hard brexit some in her party want)... So yeah perhaps an election and a new perceived mandate for checkers or no deal is her best bet of a political future... I guess the gaming out of scenarios is would enough brexit MP's back her if the proposition was chequers or no deal and gamble that the EU would pick no deal...That's a grim outlook for someone to have.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/23/welfare-spending-uk-poorest-austerity-frank-fieldFrank Field MP said:"A £37bn attack has been mounted on the living standards of many of our fellow citizens to such an extent that possibly millions struggle to keep on top of their rent, pay the bills and buy adequate food".
“Likewise, an unknown number are unable to clothe their children properly before sending them to school where all too many of these children not only rely on free school dinners as a cornerstone of their diet, but on breakfast and supper clubs as well.”
Wow that's bad. I can't believe it but I think out of that lot I'd vote Gove. Fecking Gove, jesus.Christ, what a shit show.
Jeremy in the Hunt for Theresa May’s job
Foreign Secretary’s odds of becoming next Tory Leader shortening fast
Tuesday 2nd October 2018 – As big as 14/1 when Theresa May entered Brexit negotiations in Salzburg last month, Jeremy Hunt is now just 6/1 with Betway to be the next Leader of the Conservative Party.
The leading online bookmaker cut the Foreign Secretary to 10/1 at the start of last week, but, despite being rebuked by Theresa May for likening the European Union to Soviet Russia, further support saw his odds shorten again to 7/1 last night before hitting 6/1 this morning.
Boris Johnson is out to 11/2 from 4/1, joint in the betting with Sajid Javid to replace May.
Betway’s Alan Alger said: "Jeremy Hunt's powerful responses to the EU in the wake of the Salzburg summit and his performance in recent press engagements have seen him gather much support with punters to be the next Tory leader.
“While Boris Johnson continues to make headlines for quips rather than policy, current Foreign Secretary Hunt has shortened significantly in the betting and could well be the clear favourite to replace May before too long.”
Betway – Politics – UK
Next Permanent Conservative Party Leader:
Boris Johnson
11/2
Sajid Javid
11/2
Jeremy Hunt
6/1
Michael Gove
9/1
Dominic Raab
10/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg
10/1
BAR
problem is its only going to be the conservative membership that votes - Id make mogg much shorter odds than 10/1Wow that's bad. I can't believe it but I think out of that lot I'd vote Gove. Fecking Gove, jesus.
It's depressing isn't it. Thing is they are as dangerous as they are stupid and you can only see the party lurching even further right.Wow that's bad. I can't believe it but I think out of that lot I'd vote Gove. Fecking Gove, jesus.
As a centre-lefty I'd welcome that long term, a bigger hole to fill and all, but it just wouldn't be worth the damage.It's depressing isn't it. Thing is they are as dangerous as they are stupid and you can only see the party lurching even further right.
His supporters tend to be young and female then, fair enough. I'm an old male and think he's a complete twat.
Nicola Sturgeon has a -34 on that website too, doesn't mean much really. Correlations are interesting though.
young females in the military who like mushy foods, dads army and wear barbour jackets apparentlyHis supporters tend to be young and female then, fair enough. I'm an old male and think he's a complete twat.
I'm not as I'm pretty centre, right on some things, left on others, but all I've got is hard right, hard right, unelectable Lib Dem options.As a centre-lefty I'd welcome that long term, a bigger hole to fill and all, but it just wouldn't be worth the damage.
Even scarier thing about Boris is that he's popular with the masses. Very comparable to Trump.
we wouldnt have toI mean we wouldn't would we
I mean if our public vote Brexit, May, then Boris/Hunt then I'm all for giving back all the power to Queenie.
we wouldnt have to
all he needs is sufficient MP's to send letters to conservative HQ saying they have no faith in May and then fight her in a conservative election
There is 124,000 conservative members they alone will decide who the next PM is... personally I think Mogg has a decent chance of getting the members votes if he stands
I can't remember which way around it is, but the candidates also have to get past their fellow MPs as well. I'd be surprised if the majority of Tory MPs are so detached from reality to ever think that JRM is a good choice. Likewise Boris.
Actually they only need 3 mps.
one to propose them and two to second them
The whole process is explained very well here
http://theconversation.com/theresa-mays-brexit-crisis-how-to-oust-a-tory-leader-99704
but if 15% of MPs send letters to the chairman of the 1922 committee than there is a confidence vote - if may looses she is out and can not stand for re-election
Then with the 3 mps backing any MP can stand
If only one stands then they are declared the winner
If only 2 stand then its straight to the membership for a vote
If more than 2 stand there are a series of votes eliminating one MP each round till only 2 are left then its to the members for a vote
It's been a belting week for young Tories.
fixed...Blairites .May will be opening herarmslegs to you at the party conference.