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She misses her Boris
open warfare... great to watch and unsustainable for truss to continue if it carries on too much longer
Boris will fancy a crack at the leadership if (when) truss looses a GE
Sunak is bursting to play the I told you so card
Gove is clearly trying to position himself as an option (he sent Kemi out to slate Trusses immigration stance)
Wallace didn't run last time but hard to imagine he wont throw his hat in the ring this time
I can imagine each of those camps having a bigger backing than truss and that they re all happy to et truss get smashed in GE then pick up the pieces whilst labour del with what looks like it could be a very bad recession
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I’ll remember that one next time I miss a turning and there’s “no u-turn” signs on the road.
“Sorry officer but I think you’ll find I was just making a change in direction”
Annoyingly this u-turn is a good move by the Tories. The embarrassment factor over doing a u-turn will soon fade (they happen all the time) and they’ll be left with a much more palatable set of measures. It was the abolition of the 45% rate that was causing most of the anger. The majority of people won’t see the longer term effects of the lower taxes as the spending cuts won’t bite until later.
After all that’s gone on this u-turn, change of direction or whatever they want to call it, is a disaster with the electorate. The Tories have lost all credibility on ethics, policy and the economy. The blame game by Truss & KamiKwazi this morning was just embarrassing. Next PM question time is parliament is going to be a rout. The Tories are in deep shit.
Thought the story of Boris being back in December was bonkers. It is a possibility. His backers will make life tough for Truss.
Mortgage repayments will be jumping up shortly, so they’re not out of the woods yet. For Tory voters, that’s a much bigger deal.
That was my perception when comparing the 1970/80 with the equivalent recent times.
But that was just a subjective view. You will be very aware that during the earlier period, strikes and mass protests seemed to almost be the norm. But I did do a quick search and the evidence seems to show that there are more protests by number since the turn of the century.
The damage has been done.
They won't be able to shake the (entirely accurate) perception that they have no idea what they are doing. At minimum, Truss needs Kwarteng to resign asap.
It's very much the Momentum arm of their party, just worse.
This is hilarious
He's laughing when he's saying it. Just a U-shaped change of direction.This would actually be hilarious if people were not going to die as a result of this chaos.
...I don't get it.
She could have found a bigger picture of Thatcher.
Reminds me of this strange love of Ronald Reagan, who would look liberal in today's Republican party. Food stamps for anyone?!
Reminds me of this strange love of Ronald Reagan, who would look liberal in today's Republican party. Food stamps for anyone?!
Do you watch Succession?
The caption is basically what Kwasi tweeted this morning & sounds like something one of the characters from Succession would say as part of a speech.
Oh, no I don't, I thought that was some real conference, and I was missing it's cultural significance. Thanks.
It's a really great show if you're into that sort of thing, highly recommended.
My God!!!!, I thought politicians like this existed only in the US.
"Makes me sick, how far we done fell".
Britain is done for, if politicians like these are getting into power way too often.
“You look like a dildo dipped in beard trimmings.”?
Got a Game of Thrones behind the scenes power struggle thing? I would like that a lot I imagine, if it was actually revealing of how things are.
Honestly, I feel the same. Getting more worried by the day, cos feck knows what they are saying behind closed doors
"Buckle up feckleheads"
"You can't do anything with 5 million dollars Greg, 5 is a nightmare"
- Kwasi Kwarteng, probably.
Yeah it's basically Game of Thrones on the stock exchange.
CRT is a scare tactic in y'all's country as well?
Yes - and the Government have already declared that it is illegal to teach it at schools (ages 4-18)
They're literally laughing at us!
That speech was fecking dreadful.
He was talking 100mph without any pauses, and yet saying absolutely nothing.
An embarrassment.
He was talking 100mph without any pauses, and yet saying absolutely nothing.
An embarrassment.
Not what I expected
OK, sorry it was my perception you were talking about protests that actually achieved something, (I suppose I shouldn't start reading other people's posts halfway through the exchanges...mea culpa!). Obviously protests 'over time' have a better chance of success, or partial success as the number understanding the arguments or the argument itself tends to increase wider understanding.
My perception is that since the millennium, the various 'protests', in particular on the streets type of protest seem to attract a multiplicity of protesters, of issues and ideas, and they tend to become 'carnival-like' in terms of public perception... aided of course by the (ever greedy) 24-hour/7-day week media news cycle.
Somehow the older/last century 'protests' seem more focused and 'redder in tooth and claw'... but that's probably just me and the benefits of hindsight.
My brother is 18 - him and all his mates are proper little Tories who have grown up on algorithms of right wing libertarian YouTube bullshit. This is in a working class area in South Wales. I guess that social Marxism uni diet isn’t what it was
I've seen some and would include myself in a group that is in favour of the change but have a major issue with the timing and high prioritisation of their proposed cut in the context of what's going on in the country.
I would still fit into the oppose camp on the poll, so would imagine has little bearing but sure there are others who might have similar views.