Westminster Politics

if he does go and theres not another election, the replacement will be a sitting duck. the charge of being an unelected leader thrown at them at every PMQs. if i was rishi, id step aside and let truss have it, to then not have the baggage of knifing boris and let her deal with the inflationary storms heading our way.

If Liz Truss becomes PM I may kill myself.
 
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Haha very true.

Man acts like an idiot, is called an idiot, then acts like he was only pretending to be an idiot.

Classic.
 
It’d be great if voters and parties cared more about governing than winning. Unfortunately it seems voters prefer to vote for the “winners” and then complain about how bad they are all at governing, happily ignoring the obvious flaw in that thinking.
The obvious flaw is in Tony Blair. And that Blair has made it much harder for a future Labour government because of his actions. E.g. the Iraq war, going against a 1 million person protest. As a key example. The fact he brought in tuition fees against his manifesto as another.

People lost faith in Labour as an alternative after Blair because they enacted Tory like policies.
 
Blair is the only Labour leader to win an election in modern times. Don't mention that in here though

And even he was aided and abetted by the Tories who tore themselves apart after Maggies 'political assassination' by her own 'wets' and then Major's anti EU 'B**tards'.

The modern Labour party is doomed (doomed ah tell yer!!) without Scotland. Labour has to rise again in Scotland to have any chance of forming a government in Westminster. Otherwise best they can hope for is to become the major partner in a left -of-centre coalition, which can break the FPTP monopoly... but they have to 'self-destruct' to achieve that!
 
I honestly thought he was a Harry Enfield parody the other day before clicking to watch his interview. Even the surname.
 
I honestly thought he was a Harry Enfield parody the other day before clicking to watch his interview. Even the surname.
He's been around for years but even now I still do a bit of a double take when I see him cos he looks like someone out of Little Britain.
 
there is a part of me that has no sympathy for those empoverished places that vote for the tories again and again, only to be shat on repeatedly. the same way those places like where i come from that blindly support labour because were asian init, only to have a bunch of elected goons scamming local taxpayers with their shady mates.
 
Have people been living under a rock? Just read the job description of a whip. This is not 'breaking news'

It's normal for whips to blackmail ministers into voting a certain way by leaking embarrassing stories about them to the press? What a fecked up system
 
It's normal for whips to blackmail ministers into voting a certain way by leaking embarrassing stories about them to the press? What a fecked up system
I never said it was good, just real.

This clowns like the clowns before them beg steal and borrow, make deals with the devil in order to get what they want.
 
I was surprised so many people thought he would go of his volition, I really didn't believe he would quit and I still don't. I think he needs to be pushed if he is to go.

Until then he'll deny, deter, deflect and obfuscate in order to keep his claws on power.
 
I was surprised so many people thought he would go of his volition, I really didn't believe he would quit and I still don't. I think he needs to be pushed if he is to go.

Until then he'll deny, deter, deflect and obfuscate in order to keep his claws on power.

I predicted February a few weeks ago, and I still think that's probably about right. Current guess, early February for him to be out the door.
 
You're not allowed to if you voted Lib Dem last time. I'm fairly sure you defended expelling members on mass for their votes elsewhere so you can't have much conviction in your beliefs, that or you're a hypocrite.
I left the party when corbyn was in charge therefore wasnt a member during the elections... I have since rejoined
 
I left the party when corbyn was in charge therefore wasnt a member during the elections... I have since rejoined

Bloody entryists.

Point stands though, not so long ago they culled new members joining who had voted Green or even praised the Greens in the past prior to membership on Twitter. I don't think you'd be in line with that policy.
 
We receive 250,000 people a year. They come to work. They make building houses easier. Not harder.

The only reason the Tories don’t solve the housing crisis is that the entire ethos of the party is founded on being landlords. They need banks to tell a nurse she can’t afford a £750 mortgage so they’re forced to pay £1000 a month in rent.

Poor people buy houses for rich people in this country. Immigration is divorced from the problems with housing stock. The shortage is not a bug. It’s a feature.
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If the UK population was growing by 250'000 people a year because of domestic birth rates no one would have a problem with the idea that it would be a factor likely to exacerbate a housing crisis.

There are many factors in the supply shortfall as there are in the demand increase. The growing population is obviously one of them.
 
I never said it was good, just real.

This clowns like the clowns before them beg steal and borrow, make deals with the devil in order to get what they want.

The 'good guys' always finish last... no truer saying than in politics.
"Whips" the very name tells you what they are about... the party (any parties) 'heavy mob' in Westminster, all parties have them to make sure their leaders get the voting outcome they want, even if that means only token opposition when the party in power has an 80+ seat majority!

It must be a disheartening job for the opposition whips, imagine trying to play the role of 'Mr/Mrs nasty' and put a 'squeeze' on one or your MP's to even attend, let alone vote, when you know the vote its going to go against you, whatever you do!
 
The 'good guys' always finish last... no truer saying than in politics.
"Whips" the very name tells you what they are about... the party (any parties) 'heavy mob' in Westminster, all parties have them to make sure their leaders get the voting outcome they want, even if that means only token opposition when the party in power has an 80+ seat majority!

It must be a disheartening job for the opposition whips, imagine trying to play the role of 'Mr/Mrs nasty' and put a 'squeeze' on one or your MP's to even attend, let alone vote, when you know the vote its going to go against you, whatever you do!
You have to be a certain kind of person to be a whip. It's been over 15 years since I studied for my degree in politics and I only ever had a brief meeting with one, terrible man!