Westminster Politics

It's so much fun winding you lot up :lol:

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I'm not from Great Britain and I never really followed or had a greater interest in British politics but this I had to follow, even watched the live stream today. Boris is a feckin boss :lol:, he really thinks people are complete idiots. Do people buy his BS?

He was seen as a “character” who was not your typical politician. The fact that this character is a complete fabrication (even down to his name - friends and family call him ”Al” as his first name is Alexander) and he has the same background as someone like David Cameron (Eton and Oxford) seems to have gone overlooked. However, his voters finally seemed to have realised that he is laughing at them, not with them.
 
For some he's the most genuine politician about because he's honestly dishonest. He's a rogue and makes no serious attempt to hide it beyond a wink and a smile. I think a lot of Northern voters saw him as an antidote to the slick media pro politicians like Blair and Cameron that came before him. It appears that he's now tested the limit of the electorates patience, however.

Not the type of politician that would have my confidence but I understand the appeal. I have to give him that he's an excellent orator, it's a lot of BS coming from him but he does it well.
 
I'm not from Great Britain and I never really followed or had a greater interest in British politics but this I had to follow, even watched the live stream today. Boris is a feckin boss :lol:, he really thinks people are complete idiots. Do people buy his BS?
they were on radio 5 this morning, tory voters, all "poor boris, he did his bestest, got brexit done, really got brexit done, anyway it wasnt a party, its a a media witch-hint, yes he wasnt honest but hes boris, best man for the job" etc etc. this from people who lap up law and order / authoritarian policies / victorian values, and yet happily overlook having a lying crook in charge.
 
they were on radio 5 this morning, tory voters, all "poor boris, he did his bestest, got brexit done, really got brexit done, anyway it wasnt a party, its a a media witch-hint, yes he wasnt honest but hes boris, best man for the job" etc etc. this from people who lap up law and order / authoritarian policies / victorian values, and yet happily overlook having a lying crook in charge.

Interesting. I wouldn't have thought that. He's a fecking boss, hell my hero! Doesn't give a hoot about his people, the crown, nothing! Are you guys sure he isn't Russian or something? Planted by Putin. :lol:

Man this is such good entertainment for a non-Brit like me, unbelievable stuff really. What a circus he's made :lol:.
 
That would be literally the least surprising plot twist ever.
Boris. Are you a Russian spy?

"Well, hum, or rather, hummum as the early settlers of Mesopotamia uttered as they shifted their wheely trolleys about, ha, hum *grumble mumble* flaccid folk fermenting fields, harrumph, comrade Stalin will return to avenge the fallen, peepee piffle wiggle..."
 
Boris. Are you a Russian spy?

"Well, hum, or rather, hummum as the early settlers of Mesopotamia uttered as they shifted their wheely trolleys about, ha, hum *grumble mumble* flaccid folk fermenting fields, harrumph, comrade Stalin will return to avenge the fallen, peepee piffle wiggle..."
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I think it is a bit.

Ultimately though I think she was worried about people like you. Living in 1 bed flats no outdoor space and shared bathrooms.

"10 years prior to that 5.47m people had come to the uk and that was 8.7% of the total uk population)"

We were never going to be able to build enough housing for all the people coming. You are now stuck with the consequences of that policy, while calling her a bigot for pointing out the eventual detrimental effect you seem upset about.

Just a thought for debate nothing personal.

We receive 250,000 people a year. They come to work. They make building houses easier. Not harder.

The only reason the Tories don’t solve the housing crisis is that the entire ethos of the party is founded on being landlords. They need banks to tell a nurse she can’t afford a £750 mortgage so they’re forced to pay £1000 a month in rent.

Poor people buy houses for rich people in this country. Immigration is divorced from the problems with housing stock. The shortage is not a bug. It’s a feature.
 
The 11% lead has to convert into seats in Scotland as well, otherwise its back to square one for Labour.

Scotland is gone and will never be back in play. They’ll form a coalition going forward. That will be predicated on a second referendum.
 
I don't quite understand why Labour are so full of glee about getting rid of Boris:

1. It won't trigger an election so it won't speed their potential election to Government.
2. The likelihood is that someone more competent, or less incompetent, will be elected leader who could turn the party's fortunes around by the next election.

Wasn't Starmer seen quaffing a beer during a work 'do' anyway?

No. He wasn’t.

To the getting rid of Boris point…. Some things you politic. But sometimes you have to do the right thing at the wrong time. The man is a dumpster fire of a human. He’s bad for the country. He’s a liar. A disgrace. Labour can’t just let him be a dick for another couple of years as they think they could beat him.
 
Now that jew hating fool has gone I'm back I'm the Labour Party thanks

I’m sure you’ve done this to death here before, but using something as complex as Israel and all of its machinations, as a measuring tool for UK politics….. feels really Fcuking reductive. Corbyn was - by some margin - one of the most accepting and inclusive people in UK politics.

That you don’t agree with him on territorial rights in a country half a world away, that feels like something you should be able to get past.

All this to be disregarded if you’re Jewish of course.
 
Blows my mind that the Right scream at the BBC and brand it ‘Lefty/Communist State Media’ when The Sun runs a completely alternate reality and calls itself a newspaper.
The public service broadcaster thing is a such a stick to beat them with for the right though, who will happily shell out to Rothermere in his French chateau.
 
It looks like the Bury South defection might save Bozo from being ousted by his own party. No doubt the whitewash report will exonerate him and we will be stuck with him.
 
Blair is the only Labour leader to win an election in modern times. Don't mention that in here though

It’d be great if voters and parties cared more about governing than winning. Unfortunately it seems voters prefer to vote for the “winners” and then complain about how bad they are all at governing, happily ignoring the obvious flaw in that thinking.
 
It looks like the Bury South defection might save Bozo from being ousted by his own party. No doubt the whitewash report will exonerate him and we will be stuck with him.

Which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world in the long run as he is a liability to the Conservative party. The longer they stick with him, the less time his successor has to paper over the cracks.

Also, the potential alternatives to Boris Johnson aren't much better and are in some cases worse.
 


Who could this be then?


Probably Mog, they'll start coming down hard on those talking bad about their own party i reckon.

Or on the flip side perhaps May is about to get her revenge and join the calls for him to go.
 
now that jezbollah has gone and we are riding high in the polls... just like i said... feeling vindicated thanks

You're not allowed to if you voted Lib Dem last time. I'm fairly sure you defended expelling members on mass for their votes elsewhere so you can't have much conviction in your beliefs, that or you're a hypocrite.
 

The first one is more or less passable, but it is remarkable that leaders can so brazenly and repeatedly lie unchallenged in parliament with zero repercussions.
 
The first one is more or less passable, but it is remarkable that leaders can so brazenly and repeatedly lie unchallenged in parliament with zero repercussions.

And if someone was to rightly call it out they'd be asked to leave the chamber for the day. I don't see how we can expect to be governed properly by a system prioritises Victorian social mores (it's fine for an MP to lie, but unconscionable to call a fellow MP a liar) over actually functioning as a governing body. No system is perfect, but our sorry attempt at democracy is a museum piece.