When it was legal.
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This work ‘do’ was during a time when that fell within the restrictions. The story you are referring to initially broke almost a year ago but has now been regurgitated by right wing newspapers as a deflection tactic. You’ve been played.
It’s such a great example how a headline from any old rag can influence public opinion.
It's not hard to see why Brexit happened is it?
Some people just fall for any old shite.
Are you Boris in disguise? Embarrassing post fella, keep grasping at straws.
It’s not about Labour getting in power quicker. The Tory’s are doing enough damage to themselves while in power, I’m happy for them to continue to self destruct and enjoy the show.
This is more about accountability rather than anything else. From the brexit handshakes to the Matt Hancock shambles, Don Cummings, backhanders, flat redecroating and now the parties. It’s one farce after another which they’ve been covering up for the last 2 years and now finally their mates running these inquiries can’t even defend them anymore.
And that’s only about their corruption nevermind the homeless, nhs, mental health, class divide crisis etc..
Even if Boris was to go and they bring someone else in, the damage is sticking and this is going to cause a lot of long term damage to the party. This is just the tip of the ice berg.
Understand that and it does make sense.
Assuming that he does survive, which is an open question, he is going to struggle massively as a lame duck PM. Because he will simply be a figure head with zero authority. And he will be at the behest of his supporters.
But in a sense, that could be good for Labour.
But even if he goes by some means or another, I do believe that enough of the electorate will have been put off the Tories to give Labour a fighting chance at the next election. All Starmer has to do is keep everything clean and make no silly mistakes.
Parties that end up in a damaging civil war and totally lose their trustworthiness and authority rarely recover from that in the short term.
Seriously though we’re going to end up with another Tory PM we didn’t vote for, and once again another consecutive Tory failure to add after Cameron and May. Be nice if the public start connecting the dots and realise it’s the party that are despicable and not just the individual.
It's so much fun winding you lot up 
It's so much fun winding you lot up
Sometimes you can't tell. There are some on here who want to have a go at Starmer more than Johnson.
I'm happy having a go at both, tbh, the standard of politician all round is abysmal.
Shame the election is so far away though. Will be hard to keep up the momentum for two or three years and the electorate have memories like goldfish.
Seen a fair bit of this, from politics nerds rather than MP's, usually with the caveat that the Davis intervention hurts too much to call it a positive outing all told.
I watched and it didn't seem damning to me. He didn't noticeably wet himself etc... I won't be shocked if he survives relatively comfortably.
Does he need to visibly wet himself for you to think it was a disaster?
It would be a good indicator.
It would but I do think there are other signs he's had a nightmare performance too.
And I don't mean him soiling himself.
The 'punches' are being landed every day with every breaking story about another party. I wouldn't be surprised if he survives either with the amount he's got away with so far.
He didn't cry either, so that's an improvement on yesterday if reports are to be believed!
Not sure I can ever remember the right wing press so prominently talking about populist policies being spewed in desperation by the Tories as distraction, while still lapping them up so readily. There's not even any pretence about the rationale in most cases.
He's a colossal cnut.
With any luck he is gone by next week. Hopefully the Tories will be forced into an election (somehow) and we can put this stupid experiment of Tory governance to bed for another 30 years.
Unfortunately if he does go it seems likely he’ll be replaced by an even bigger cnut. I don’t see any way this leads to an election.
The cameramen are laughing.
When have Labour ever been in power for 30 years?
if he does go and theres not another election, the replacement will be a sitting duck. the charge of being an unelected leader thrown at them at every PMQs. if i was rishi, id step aside and let truss have it, to then not have the baggage of knifing boris and let her deal with the inflationary storms heading our way.
Not a chance he gets votes out, almost as much chance of Labour winning a GE with Starmer in charge
Puncture his life jacket.
Sorry, the last fifteen years have felt like an eternity.
Ouch, Wakeford previously co-sponsored a private members' bill requiring by-elections when MPs defect.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-speculation-coronavirus-politics-live-latest
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-speculation-coronavirus-politics-live-latest
Your response does not make sense
No party has been in for thirty years. It was hyperbole.
I love how in their speeches reaffirming why the public shouldn’t sack off this useless bunch of lying wankers, they keep repeating things like “we are the party who delivered brexit”, as if it’s some kind of positive.
The main reason why many traditionally right of centre voters didn't vote for them and the main reason why Labour voters defected to them in their millions.
I'm not from Great Britain and I never really followed or had a greater interest in British politics but this I had to follow, even watched the live stream today. Boris is a feckin boss , he really thinks people are complete idiots. Do people buy his BS?
, he really thinks people are complete idiots. Do people buy his BS?I'm not from Great Britain and I never really followed or had a greater interest in British politics but this I had to follow, even watched the live stream today. Boris is a feckin boss
Some do. But we're not allowed to appraise their mental capacity.
Given current polling it might not be a bad shout by labour to call the by election...
The by-election would either be with Boris remaining PM or if a ledership election without him is underway then at least Boris as caretaker PM
I'm not from Great Britain and I never really followed or had a greater interest in British politics but this I had to follow, even watched the live stream today. Boris is a feckin boss
For some he's the most genuine politician about because he's honestly dishonest. He's a rogue and makes no serious attempt to hide it beyond a wink and a smile. I think a lot of Northern voters saw him as an antidote to the slick media pro politicians like Blair and Cameron that came before him. It appears that he's now tested the limit of the electorates patience, however.
They should let it play out first. If there is even a handful of other Tory MP’s thinking of crossing the aisle you don’t want to discourage that right now.
At the end of the day you need a bill to make it law. Setting a precedent will do nothing with these chancers, if a Labour MP goes in the opposite direction there’s no way they would call a by election just because Labour did.