Westminster Politics



Wasn't sure where else to put this, it's sort of connected to Westminster politics and incredible.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Never mind the obvious 'she's talking out of her ass' comments - England players, staff and manager have all said it is to highlight racial inequality and less specifically to do with the organisation. When they have said why they're doing it then nobody has the right to say otherwise. I could post the James O'Brien clip again but he hits the nail on the head - once they said the reason for it, people who boo have (a) chosen to ignore it and (b) chosen to, by association, against the awareness that they're trying to raise.

Ironically enough the same people will have been cheering like deranged lunatics when Sterling scored no doubt!
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Didn't Mings have a go at her too at the Presser?
 
Does anyone believe anything Cummings says?

It's clear as feck he's just trying to come out of it all smelling of roses, bigging his genius up. He's a bigger twat than Boris and Hancock put together.
 
One Night Only said:
Does anyone believe anything Cummings says?

It's clear as feck he's just trying to come out of it all smelling of roses, bigging his genius up. He's a bigger twat than Boris and Hancock put together.
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Yes. Yes, I believe the majority of what he's saying, although doubtless he's being selective in aspects of what he chooses to reveal for a variety of reasons.
 
I read that Dido Harding was part of a horse-riding set in Oxfordshire, originally with Cameron. I never dreamt the UK would have its own version of that infamous judo club in St Petersburg .
 
Liberal Democrats take Tory stronghold with historic win in Chesham and Amersham by-election

The UK's Conservative Party has suffered a by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats scored a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.

Lib Dem Sarah Green is the UK's newest MP after winning the seat, which had been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.

Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, said the result sent a "shockwave through British politics" by showing that the "Blue Wall" of Tory southern seats could be vulnerable.

The Tories sought to limit the damage, insisting it was difficult for governing parties to win by-elections, but defeated candidate Peter Fleet acknowledged the Conservatives had to rebuild "trust and understanding" with voters.

The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election - some 55% of the vote.

In a stunning result, Ms Green took 56.7% of the vote to secure a majority of 8,028 over the second-placed Tories.

"This Conservative Party has taken people across the country for granted for far too long," Ms Green said.

The Green Party came third with 1,480 votes, with Labour trailing in fourth with just 622 votes, losing the party's deposit in the process.

In her acceptance speech Ms Green said: "Tonight the voice of Chesham and Amersham is unmistakable. Together we have said, 'Enough is enough, we will be heard and this Government will listen'.

"This campaign has shown that no matter where you live, or how supposedly safe a constituency may appear to be, if you want a Liberal Democrat member of Parliament, you can have a Liberal Democrat Member of Parliament."

She added: "We will continue the work of holding this Government to account for letting Covid rip through the care homes. We will speak up for the three million people excluded from financial support throughout the pandemic and we will challenge Boris Johnson to be far more ambitious in tackling climate change, supporting our frontline workers and backing our small businesses."

The scale of the defeat will ring alarm bells in Conservative Campaign Headquarters.

Major issues in the campaign included the HS2 rail line, which cuts through the constituency, and the Government's proposed planning reforms which have sparked fears about building in the countryside around the seat in the Chilterns.

Mr Fleet said: "Clearly this was a very disappointing result, not the result that I was expecting nor my team."

He added: "It's an absolutely extraordinary result which must take into account the fact that the Liberal Democrat party didn't just throw the kitchen sink at this constituency, I think it was the microwave, the table, the oven, the dishwasher, the dog, the cat and anything else that was lying around as well."

Tory chairwoman Amanda Milling said the "work starts now to show how it's Conservatives that can deliver on the people's priorities and regain their support".

A Conservative source said: "By-elections are always difficult for the governing party, particularly 11 years into government, but there is no getting away from the fact this is a very disappointing result."

The victory caught bookmakers off guard - the Tories were firm favourites and the Lib Dems closed at 4/1 with Ladbrokes.

"Fair to say this was a night for the punters," the firm said.
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Fair enough, really. Can't argue with the logic.
 
Sassy Colin said:
It's the NIMBY vote, nothing more, nothing less.
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Maybe removing the need for planning permission processes to benefit the large building companies who are friends of the Tories wasn't such a good idea then. Because many of the shires will have the same concerns.

Build. Build. Build? More like Bribe. Bribe. Bribe.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Maybe removing the need for planning permission processes to benefit the large building companies who are friends of the Tories wasn't such a good idea then. Because many of the shires will have the same concerns.

Build. Build. Build? More like Bribe. Bribe. Bribe.
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Or maybe it's because the country needs more homes for people to live in?
 
Government want to allow 2500 VIPs into the country for the Euro 2021 final so it can still be held at Wembley. None of those VIPs would have to self isolate as is government rules regarding those that come in. One rule for the haves one rule for the have nota
 
lefty_jakobz said:
Government want to allow 2500 VIPs into the country for the Euro 2021 final so it can still be held at Wembley. None of those VIPs would have to self isolate as is government rules regarding those that come in. One rule for the haves one rule for the have nota
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There are already separate rules for the likes of footballers, golf and tennis players.

The Guardian article says:

At the moment, we are in discussions with the local authorities to try to allow fans of the participating teams to attend the matches, using a strict testing and bubble concept that would mean their stay in the UK would be less than 24 hours and their movements would be restricted to approved transport and venues only,” a spokesperson said.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...out-quarantine-to-keep-euros-final-at-wembley
 
lefty_jakobz said:
Government want to allow 2500 VIPs into the country for the Euro 2021 final so it can still be held at Wembley. None of those VIPs would have to self isolate as is government rules regarding those that come in. One rule for the haves one rule for the have nota
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there are already separate rules in place. For example for the G7 last week. I don’t see the big deal, and think that the vast vast majority of people wild think this is a good idea in order to stage the Semi finals and final of the Euros.

only applies to people who stay less than 24 hours, have a negative test, stay in a designated hotel, can only travel with others in the same situation and can’t go to any other venues.

Do people actually have a problem with this?
 
lefty_jakobz said:
Government want to allow 2500 VIPs into the country for the Euro 2021 final so it can still be held at Wembley. None of those VIPs would have to self isolate as is government rules regarding those that come in. One rule for the haves one rule for the have nota
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Sounds fine... I mean just like brexit we can agree to go along with it then unilaterally change the rules to suit us later right...
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
there are already separate rules in place. For example for the G7 last week. I don’t see the big deal, and think that the vast vast majority of people wild think this is a good idea in order to stage the Semi finals and final of the Euros.

only applies to people who stay less than 24 hours, have a negative test, stay in a designated hotel, can only travel with others in the same situation and can’t go to any other venues.

Do people actually have a problem with this?
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I'm not someone to complain about being on the wrong side of a few arbitrary rules resulting from covid. But my kids move up to secondary school this year. They are now not allowed to attend mutiple planned events, designed to help ease them into a new school they have never been to. It can be a difficult period for kids, even without the current situation and it seems like they've had the shitty end of the stick too many times over the last year.

So yeah, I'd say I have a problem with this. While not a massive issue, it's yet another case of allowances being made for those with high wealth, while the rest just have to get on with it. The UK isn't completely out of the woods yet. By my understanding, we're relying upon the vaccine programme continuing at a strong pace to stay ahead of this latest wave(to put it simply). Taking more risks now, only increases the chances of further lockdowns or continuing restrictions past next month.
 
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