Westminster Politics

It's almost pathetic, isn't it, the lengths they are prepared to go to. The reasoning seems to be white privilege doesn't exist because some white kids are underprivileged.

I think there is a general point that gets overlooked or ridiculed there. I have benefited from white privilege, but my dad hasn’t. Talking to him about white privilege without any context for his own life experience only loses an ally, because otherwise he shares a lot of the same beliefs as those who use the term most.

He grew up as one of 6 children, the son of a janitor and a housewife, with very little food on the table. He grew up in one of the hotspots of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, gunshots most nights, an occupying army on his doorstep, paramilitary organisations trying to recruit him, other people his age throwing petrol bombs and senior political leaders mounting rifles on his street. There was no privilege in his background. He had a much worse upbringing than the vast majority of people with a different skin colour in his country. The fact he was white just meant he would be defined by his religion or his political identity, and he happened to be in the minority and subject to explicit discrimination.

Just waving a hand and saying well sure you grew up with all that, but imagine how much worse it would have been if you had a different skin colour, is plainly untrue but more importantly, it invalidates a fundamental part of his being. That’s stupid politics but it’s not uncommon for people who talk about white privilege to such an extent.

It just shouldn’t feature in this report at all. It could be misguided analysis but most likely it’s just a bullshit distraction from the deeper problem they have much more responsibility for.
 
I agree with you. Although white privilege does exist, it is definitely divisive and not that helpful in winning the argument. And the below quote is exactly why they put it in the report: as someone pointed out, primary school aged kids have only ever lived under Tory rule and, for much of that time, the term white privilege wasn't even in use. Not to mention only a small proportion of white working class kids actually qualify for free school meals.
most likely it’s just a bullshit distraction from the deeper problem they have much more responsibility for
 
I agree with you. Although white privilege does exist, it is definitely divisive and not that helpful in winning the argument. And the below quote is exactly why they put it in the report: as someone pointed out, primary school aged kids have only ever lived under Tory rule and, for much of that time, the term white privilege wasn't even in use. Not to mention only a small proportion of white working class kids actually qualify for free school meals.

And because most of the white folks that have been underserved are over represented in the towns that have been most overlooked, with the Tories in charge for most of that decline in those regions!

In those overlooked towns, many minorities have those same struggles plus more. I’m sure if they just included region as a controlling factor you’d find plenty of examples of white privilege right across the country. They were just happy to ignore that skewed population distribution to tell a ridiculous story!
 
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Boris trying to get rid of Hancock the only way he knows how.
You are naive if you think the papers just saw those pictures or the government didn't know.
 
We laugh and joke but that’s the guy that was in charge of the Health sector in the middle of a global pandemic, no integrity whatsoever politician’s make me sick especially Tory ones..
 
We laugh and joke but that’s the guy that was in charge of the Health sector in the middle of a global pandemic, no integrity whatsoever politician’s make me sick especially Tory ones..

Same guy who gave his neighbour a PPE Contract (neighbour had no background in field) this is a party who have lied consistently and yet the English public just believe anything they say
 
Has there been another British government, in recent times, that is so bereft of any morals? Boris, Hancock, Raab, Patel, Gove... more muck than a pig sty.
 
Has there been another British government, in recent times, that is so bereft of any morals? Boris, Hancock, Raab, Patel, Gove... more muck than a pig sty.
I dunno - Cameron feked a dead pig and pretty much started the chumocracy
Blair was apparently a war criminal - presumably brown as well I guess
Majors government was brought down by sleaze
Thatcher thatcher milk snatcher who shot the belgrano in the back etc

I mean perhaps the only one not seen as moraly corrupt was the maybot and thats probably more due to shear incompetence rather than actual morals
 
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I imagine that image has been sitting in Dominic Cummings' back pocket, waiting for the right time.
 
Boris trying to get rid of Hancock the only way he knows how.
You are naive if you think the papers just saw those pictures or the government didn't know.
I think Boris wants him around so he can have an inquiry in to covid in a few months... blame it all on hancock... throw him under the (boris) bus and draw a line under it so he can get on with the important business of making more money for himself and his chums
 
I think Boris wants him around so he can have an inquiry in to covid in a few months... blame it all on hancock... throw him under the (boris) bus and draw a line under it so he can get on with the important business of making more money for himself and his chums

that’s just rehashing what Cummings said. He can get rid of him now, and put the blame on Hancock if that’s the way the hammer falls - he doesn’t need him in position to do that.
 
It says a lot that it’s probably this that will bring him down rather than all the corruption and incompetence that lead to people dying.
 
He’s admitted breaking Covid rules

that is the end of Hancock, he will have no choice but to stand down after that statement