Westminster Politics


Not too far off this

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Just think if you voted Tory in the election you actually voted for this guy. Take a look at yourself.
 
I think the importance is less in what action the police will take than what they will uncover. At the moment we only have eyewitness testimony. If the police confirm a second breach of lockdown I think his position truly teeters onto the brink of becoming untenable.
I doubt it. The vast majority of the public don't care, the government will distract with something tomorrow or Tuesday, plus the furloughing story will flare up again and it'll be forgotten.
 
I doubt it. The vast majority of the public don't care, the government will distract with something tomorrow or Tuesday, plus the furloughing story will flare up again and it'll be forgotten.

I honestly dont know. This story seems to cut through. Such a brazen example of hypocrisy is pissing off even the more apolitical people I know.
 
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I doubt it. The vast majority of the public don't care, the government will distract with something tomorrow or Tuesday, plus the furloughing story will flare up again and it'll be forgotten.

Exactly the reason they are encouraging football to return.
 
I doubt it. The vast majority of the public don't care, the government will distract with something tomorrow or Tuesday, plus the furloughing story will flare up again and it'll be forgotten.

I dunno, this seems like something that taps perfectly into the British psyche and pisses everyone off regardless of political affiliation. As long as the opposition don’t make the mistake of politicizing it too quickly.
 
Any word if the eyewitness who saw Cummings in Durham forest or whatever it is took a picture, that's what will bring him down.
 
Rumour is that even more evidence will be featured in tomorrow's newspapers.
 
I doubt it. The vast majority of the public don't care, the government will distract with something tomorrow or Tuesday, plus the furloughing story will flare up again and it'll be forgotten.
Wrong. Very wrong.
 
Iain Watson been asking the BBC questions at the press conference last few days, he certainly isn't letting them off the hook. Johnson was desperate to cut him off when he had sound issues today. :lol:
 
Even Der Stürmer has lost faith:

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I hope you are right but thr last 4 years have taught me that the public of this country are easily deceived and ultimately don't care about stuff like this.
Even the daily mail has turned on them. This isn't going away.
 
I hope you are right but thr last 4 years have taught me that the public of this country are easily deceived and ultimately don't care about stuff like this.

The Daily Heil are the ones who deceive the public and they are choosing to go against Johnson and Cummings. The game is up.
 

UK’s covid19 experience is a bonafide exceptional case, given how many have died. No politician can hide behind the ‘every country has had similar suffering’ excuse.

The UK public needs a person to direct its anger and frustration at. I’m not sure if it’s strategic or an unintended consequence, but the entire wrath of the nation can now be unloaded onto Cummings.

This may be a very astute political move from Boris, to deflect as much anger and frustration onto Cummings instead of himself.

If Boris plays this right, he can sack Cummings in a weeks time, ensuring he survives for the many mistakes he himself has made.
 
UK’s covid19 experience is a bonafide exceptional case, given how many have died. No politician can hide behind the ‘every country has had similar suffering’ excuse.

The UK public needs a place to direct that anger and frustration. I’m not sure if it’s strategic or an unintended consequence, but the entire wrath of the nation can now be unloaded onto Cummings.

This may be a very astute political move from Boris, to deflect as much anger and frustration onto Cummings instead of himself.

If Boris plays this right, he can sack Cummings in a weeks time, ensuring he survives for the many mistakes he himself has made.
Similarly, it's win-win for Johnson: if the people now decides to break lockdown & there's relatively few health consequences, or if there are serious health consequences, Johnson wins by life & business getting back to normal or by blaming the public if it all goes wrong.
 
UK’s covid19 experience is a bonafide exceptional case, given how many have died. No politician can hide behind the ‘every country has had similar suffering’ excuse.

The UK public needs a person to direct its anger and frustration at. I’m not sure if it’s strategic or an unintended consequence, but the entire wrath of the nation can now be unloaded onto Cummings.

This may be a very astute political move from Boris, to deflect as much anger and frustration onto Cummings instead of himself.

If Boris plays this right, he can sack Cummings in a weeks time, ensuring he survives for the many mistakes he himself has made.

It's far from astute! By supporting Dominic Cummings in this way, he has brought everything that the government has said during this crisis into disrepute. Sure, Dominic Cummings is getting the brunt of the anger, but the main takeaway from this is that there is a clear bias in the government and a willingness to overlook his behaviour. People aren't going to forget the government's role in this shambles.
 
Similarly, it's win-win for Johnson: if the people now decides to break lockdown & there's relatively few health consequences, or if there are serious health consequences, Johnson wins by life & business getting back to normal or by blaming the public if it all goes wrong.
Very astute additional observations! Boris is many things, but stupid or politically naive he certainly isn’t.

I’m sure Boris has instinctively calculated how this can play out, and will ensure he uses Cummings gaffe to his political and reputational advantage.

Worse case, if he has to eventually sack Cummings, he can claim he was demonstrating loyalty by sticking up for his guy.

Being a responsible grown up, I just hope that if public now engage is mass disobedience of ‘Stay Alert’ measures, we don’t then get a 2nd wave. That’s is Boris’s lose-lose as it will all come back to this decision.
 
It's far from astute! By supporting Dominic Cummings in this way, he has brought everything that the government has said during this crisis into disrepute. Sure, Dominic Cummings is getting the brunt of the anger, but the main takeaway from this is that there is a clear bias in the government and a willingness to overlook his behaviour. People aren't going to forget the government's role in this shambles.
What else can ‘people’ do to get the ‘justice’ that they seek?

We’ve already seen the BJ-Cummings play book many times over, generating similar levels of incandescent outrage, and yet they just double down and deflect.

This incident will certainly not be the end of both of them and if push comes to shove, Boris is skilled enough to limit his reputational damage with his base by deflecting onto Cummings.
 
Boris isn’t smart or politically astute or he wouldn’t be in this position. People overhype that fools abilities so much. He’s only where he is because of fecking Cummings in the first place. I can’t wait to see the fall. It’s coming.
 
Couldn't believe what I was seeing when our cnut PM was speaking earlier.

1. Comes out in an attempt to look like a figure of authority and pardons DC, when in actual fact he looked a mess, and was clearly all over the place.
2. Defends his best friend with saying its a parents instinct to want to protect their child. Correct.
3. Then the cnut PM quickly moves on to re-opening schools where there are still lots of question marks around this
4. Why are parents going to send their kids to school until they're confident it safe, or schools even re-open in the first place.....I mean, can they not use their own instincts to keep the children safe?

Boris is a twat, so are the Tories, we know this, but sadly their are too many stupid people in this country who back them (btw bizarrely they're stop supporters have suffered from Corona the worst). DC needs to go, and all those MPs that backed him need to get egged, badly, and the PM should get a public flogging for this