Westminster Politics

Mr Pigeon said:
The new Pro Cummings angle on Twitter is that his kid is autistic so people should stop trying to play politics.
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Huh? The law doesn't apply to him, unlike other people, because he is a parent concerned about his kids.

Straight from the let them eat cake script book of privileged wankerdom.
 
Jippy said:
Those two officials were expendable. Johnson will just ride it out. In the 1,000-1 chance Cummings gets fined, then he's been punished, we move on. People are confusing twitter and the wider electorate.
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If the Mail are hammering him then the blue rinse brigade will be baying for his blood. That matters a lot more to the Tories than Twitter does.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
The new Pro Cummings angle on Twitter is that his kid is autistic so people should stop trying to play politics. Which is a dodgy argument for a couple of reasons;

1) the kid is four so that must be one hell of a diagnosis team that managed to discover that with the utmost certainty
2) Cummings is a twat
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‘Have sympathy for Child who is autistic’ strategy blowing up against Cummings on twitter. Loads of hard hitting rebuttals like one below.

 
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Kentonio said:
If the Mail are hammering him then the blue rinse brigade will be baying for his blood. That matters a lot more to the Tories than Twitter does.
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They will switch to defending him soon enough. The Mail has never worried much about arguing both sides of an argument for ratings.
 
I wonder if it was Cummings who came up with this latest Tory three word message.
RESPONSIBLY, LEGALLY and INTEGRITY.
 
The government still defending the indefensible this morning on breakfast news and trying to re-write the rules again. Still avoiding specific questions and trying to deceive. The government are a disgrace. Cummings position is untenable and so will be the PM’s himself at this rate.
 
noodlehair said:
No one needed this Cummings incident to know that either he or Boris aren't particularly smart, or suitable for office. We all knew it before now. Maybe some people didn't know who Cummings was but they certainly knew Boris was both an idiot and a liar, and they voted him into government.

People have voted for liars before but until the brexit election they had never willingly voted for someone who was so obviously not fit for office, and that marked a very big change for this country.

It told our elected government that people didn't care about holding anything they do or say to account, or how good they were at actually being a government. It's taken 60,000 people dying and an incident like this for people to suddenly and inevitably change their mind, but it's too late at this point to expect it just to change back. There is no way on earth that Boris or Cummings relinquish any power willingly, because doing or saying anyhting they can to grab and cling to power is the only purpose either of them had in the first place. Literally nothing that happens will change that. They don't know how to do anything else

Cummings and co have no idea how to run a government. They are experts at lying and ignorance and that's it. The inevitable outcome when they were elected was a hostile government that is held in contempt by more and more as it fails to do it's basic duties. You can lie about what other people are doing quite easily, but it's quite hard to constantly lie about what you are doing when you don't have a clue what you are actually doing. It'd take a very smart person to do that, and we're dealing with someone who thought it was a good idea to drive 260 miles during a lockdown despite knowing he was in the public eye. Smart people don't do things that thick people would do.



Maybe, but this is a little different. Boris now wont command any respect from anyone, whether it's government officials, unions or members of the public. People might not care but they're certainly not going to listen to him...which at a time when the government needs help from pretty much every collection of unions, business, public services etc. around, is quite a serious problem. None of them are going to forget about this because it's of direct concern to them at the moment whether they can trust what the government tell them or not, and this makes it possible for anyone to think they can.
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The crux of the argument for me. I’m furious that we have a government full of liars but I don’t necessarily blame them. A leopard can’t change its spots, it’s the people that voted for them and expected something different that should be taking some responsibility for this.
 
Can't see Cummings going anywhere. He is a very important part of Johnson's agenda .Similar to Trump's
 
I must admit, I'm very confused about this situation. This guy must be extremely important or have a lot of dirt on people. The Tories could have nipped this in the bud pretty quickly yet they've allowed it to become a massive story.
 
TheGame said:
I’m amazed people like Tom Harwood are allowed near a TV screen and a platform to sprout their shite. It’s not as if people like that have a knowledgeable view on anything.
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He‘s being ushered in as a young voice of the right. Despite the fact he’s completely devoid of any intellect.
 
I have written to my MP who is unfortunately Chris Skidmore Conservative requesting that he does the right thing and urge his leader to do the right thing and sack Mr Cummings for breaking lockdown instructions.

I would urge anyone who feels dissatisfied with how Boris Johnson is defending him to contact their MP.
 
TheGame said:
Yet the news companies keep giving him a platform even though he keeps sprouting nonsense.
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He’s quite clearly got a patron in BBC politics/news production. A bit like Milo had in the US.
 
saivet said:
I must admit, I'm very confused about this situation. This guy must be extremely important or have a lot of dirt on people. The Tories could have nipped this in the bud pretty quickly yet they've allowed it to become a massive story.
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Isn't he the general of the army of online trolls that flood comment sections up and down the country? (Senior adviser is a euphemism imo)
 
Seen a few people discussing the Government's instructions to send people back to School in June being completely destroyed by the authority they have conceded over Cummings.

If parents are told to send kids back to School they can't enforce it as the parents have every right to "use their parental instincts`.
 
The Education Secretary placed responsibility on Cummings' head. Note the wording:
"He has made it clear that he’s broken no rules and he’s broken no laws"

That's not the same thing as supporting him at all.
 
https://www.durham-pcc.gov.uk/News-...rham-by-Dominic-Cummings-during-lockdown.aspx
It is clear however that there is a plethora of additional information circulating in the public domain which deserves appropriate examination. I have today written to the Chief Constable, asking her to establish the facts concerning any potential breach of the law or regulations in this matter at any juncture.
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Confirmed that investigation will go on, I wonder if the papers/journos and witnesses now will collaborate
Think it'll be quicker than a parliamentary inquiry in any case and we'll be back in the BoJo lied to the queen territory I reckon once this is finished but question will be how much that will affect Tory popularity with their base
 
Pexbo said:
Seen a few people discussing the Government's instructions to send people back to School in June being completely destroyed by the authority they have conceded over Cummings.

If parents are told to send kids back to School they can't enforce it as the parents have every right to "use their parental instincts`.
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There’s no way they could enforce a return to school even before this whole Cumbreath fiasco.
 
Abizzz said:
Isn't he the general of the army of online trolls that flood comment sections up and down the country? (Senior adviser is a euphemism imo)
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He‘s seen as the mastermind behind Vote Leave and Boris’s 80 seat majority. I’m now thinking that Boris really sees him as crucial and thinks with it being so early in the electoral cycle he can ride this out and it will be forgotten by the time we go to the polls, which is probably correct.

As for Cummings, he has a burning ambition to revolutionise British politics. He’s been close to the top table of power a couple of times but has been foiled each time, most notably when Cameron told Gove that if was to serve in his cabinet then Cummings would have to go as his top aide because he’s a ‘career psychopath’. Now he’s made it he’s not going to go easily.

Personally I’ve always thought he won’t last because by all accounts he’s completely intransigent, arrogant, aggressive and not interested in diplomacy. He’s kind of like ISIS in that he‘s made too many enemies not to be destroyed.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
He‘s seen as the mastermind behind Vote Leave and Boris’s 80 seat majority. I’m now thinking that Boris really sees him as crucial and thinks with it being so early in the electoral cycle he can ride this out and it will be forgotten by the time we go to the polls, which is probably correct.

As for Cummings, he has a burning ambition to revolutionise British politics. He’s been close to the top table of power a couple of times but has been foiled each time, most notably when Cameron told Gove that if was to serve in his cabinet then Cummings would have to go as his top aide because he’s a ‘career psychopath’. Now he’s made it he’s not going to go easily.

Personally I’ve always thought he won’t last because by all accounts he’s completely intransigent, arrogant, aggressive and not interested in diplomacy. He’s kind of like ISIS in that he‘s made too many enemies not to be destroyed.
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I first heard that quote from Cameron ages ago and it’s become more and more evident over time
 
There's a lot about the financial connections between Johnson and Cummings that doesn't make the 'papers (for whatever reason - I'm not claiming that this is necessarily malign); it isn't merely Johnson's loyalty which is keeping Cummings in place.
 
TheGame said:
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I'm sorry to hear your news. That sounds horrific and having lost a family member on Friday in not entirely dissimilar circumstances, I can understand your anger.
 
T00lsh3d said:
I first heard that quote from Cameron ages ago and it’s become more and more evident over time
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Imagine how much of a twat you have to be, for David Cameron of all people to think you're a psychopath.
 
SteveJ said:
There's a lot about the financial connections between Johnson and Cummings that doesn't make the 'papers (for whatever reason - I'm not claiming that this is necessarily malign); it isn't merely Johnson's loyalty which is keeping Cummings in place.
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Currently £1 = 87.1453 Russian rubles. As always with these cnuts, just follow the money.
 
Colour me shocked.



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saivet said:
I must admit, I'm very confused about this situation. This guy must be extremely important or have a lot of dirt on people. The Tories could have nipped this in the bud pretty quickly yet they've allowed it to become a massive story.
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He is the one running the government. He tells Boris what to do. Boris can't get rid of him because then he wouldn't know what to do, and the only thing Cummings knows how to do is lie and manipulate, so he's hardly going to back down in a situation like this.

This sort os shite is the reason why he had Boris remove anyone with a spine or hint of indepedent opinion from the cabinet. The whole strategy has been about getting into power, and now they have it the strategy is purely self preservation. You're expecting the man who's grabbed the gun to protect himself to use it to shoot himself in the face.
 
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