Westminster Politics

I don't find the Caf to be particularly left wing but I am aware that in parts of the country (and World) my politics would be seen as Bolshevik. I know no-one who voted leave and I do like to see views from the other side even if I rarely see any points that I agree with. I think this thread is overwhelmingly remain in general and, in a sense, is an echo chamber (although this is not an expression I like).
Sorry, mate, I should've made it clear that I wasn't criticising your post...I was just moaning in general.
 
Just saw Desmond Swayne MP on C4, seems a bit of a nutter
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Good. It can be an echo chamber in here and you have good points to make contrary to the prevalent opinion here. I, for one, welcome that. Your points are not helped though by pretending you don't get Blackford's point about dictatorship (a direct reference to unlawful proroguement to stymie Parliament) nor Johnson's campaign mode response.
The standing Government attempted to remove parliamentary scrutiny at possibly the most critical post WWII moment. Their response is to shrug and carry on. It is unsurprising that this is unpopular in Parliament and Blackford's point is clear both in meaning and motivation.

I disagree with the language being used. Dictator just demonstrates laziness and the use of soundbites.

It's the same with Johnson's usage of surrender act.

Can anyone say that today, anything has been achieved in the commons beyond hurling abuse at each other?
 
I disagree with the language being used. Dictator just demonstrates laziness and the use of soundbites.

It's the same with Johnson's usage of surrender act.

Can anyone say that today, anything has been achieved in the commons beyond hurling abuse at each other?

No.
 
Labour MP Paula Sherriff just had a withering, emotional outburst in the Commons, saying Johnson should be “ashamed” of his conduct and that MPs had been threatened and put in danger, and should enjoy more respect from the prime minister.

The PM rebuffed her remarks with blunt indifference.

This from the HuffPost’s Paul Waugh:

Wow. Boris Johnson responds to an emotional plea by Paula Sheriff to stop using perjorative and 'dangerous' language like 'Surrender Act' (citing memory of Jo Cox and referring to new death threats to MPs), by saying her remarks are mere "Humbug".
Total fury on Labour benches.

(Guardian)
 
Labour MP Paula Sherriff just had a withering, emotional outburst in the Commons, saying Johnson should be “ashamed” of his conduct and that MPs had been threatened and put in danger, and should enjoy more respect from the prime minister.

The PM rebuffed her remarks with blunt indifference.

This from the HuffPost’s Paul Waugh:

Wow. Boris Johnson responds to an emotional plea by Paula Sheriff to stop using perjorative and 'dangerous' language like 'Surrender Act' (citing memory of Jo Cox and referring to new death threats to MPs), by saying her remarks are mere "Humbug".
Total fury on Labour benches.

(Guardian)
Hard to believe the bloke who has said and done indefensible shit that has seen him sacked upwards to his dream job, doesn't feel the need to stop doing and saying indefensible shit.
 
Hard to believe the bloke who has said and done indefensible shit that has seen him sacked upwards to his dream job, doesn't feel the need to stop doing and saying indefensible shit.
Exactly. Boris is a complete cnut, has always been a complete cnut and will always be a complete cnut.
 
Hard to believe the bloke who has said and done indefensible shit that has seen him sacked upwards to his dream job, doesn't feel the need to stop doing and saying indefensible shit.
British history is replete with shameless chancers like him, flitting from top job to top job & caring about nothing bar himself & his own advantage.
 
@Dobba As a staunch Corbyn hard left supporter, what compromises would you make to see BJ chucked out of office? ergo, how far would you go? A temporary GNU? A replacement labour leader? Or just a GE?
 
I thought May couldn't be outdone as the worst PM in modern times. This cnut takes the biscuit.
 
@Dobba As a staunch Corbyn hard left supporter, what compromises would you make to see BJ chucked out of office? ergo, how far would you go? A temporary GNU? A replacement labour leader? Or just a GE?
As we stand now, General Election. GNU and replacement leader offer me nothing as none of the people suggested would have any interest in the transformative policies I'm looking for and seeing at the conference this year. I mean, the main 'Labour' head being favoured for the temporary job tried to look tougher than the Tories on welfare the last time she got given that job.
 
Even fangirl Laura's putting the boot in on Bunga-bunga Boris:
Laura Kuenssberg said:
Have seen more hours of the Commons than I care to remember + that was one of most brutal + mad I have ever seen - no shred of remorse from the PM ruled to have broken law yesterday, paltry attempt at answering Corbyn's Qs, a few Labour MPs screaming, 'you should be in jail'
 
He's got absolutely nothing beyond fake outrage.
He may not, but given his circumstances, I think BJ's bossed it tonight. Despite tonnes of ammo, opposition have barely laid a glove on him.

I doubt he has lost even one voter tonight, and many will have been inspired by his bullish resoluteness. He has certainly been getting personal populism 101 tuition from Trump/Bannon, and anything he says is purely for his base. Ditto AG Cox from this morning.

Anyways, its all moot and won't matter once GE campaigning starts.
 
He may not, but given his circumstances, I think BJ's bossed it tonight. Despite tonnes of ammo, opposition have barely laid a glove on him.

I doubt he has lost even one voter tonight, and many will have been inspired by his bullish resoluteness. He has certainly been getting personal populism 101 tuition from Trump/Bannon, and anything he says is purely for his base. Ditto AG Cox from this morning.

Anyways, its all moot and won't matter once GE campaigning starts.

I want to say 'Thanks, Laura' but @SteveJ has already used that joke tonight
 
Johnson just said in the Commons that the best way to honour the memory of Jo Cox and to bring this country together is to get Brexit done.
F*ckng stroll on...
 
Yeah, I agree. This won't do much political damage. His political damage will be done if we do not leave the EU on the 31st October.

Exactly. I feel like the more he winds them up the happier he is, because theyl spend too much time getting wound up by frivolous wording rather than actually grilling him.
 
Yeah, I agree. This won't do much political damage. His political damage will be done if we do not leave the EU on the 31st October.
Even there, feck knows if it will actually damage the guy. He'll just bleat about remoaner MPs and the courts defying the will of the people and people will lap it up.
 
This government is extraordinary. I don't think they could order a pizza without use of the "help".
 
Marina Hyde said:
Woman after woman after woman after woman has had to stand up tonight and plead with Boris Johnson to moderate his language for their own safety, and he just doubles down every time. What an absolutely hollowed-out human. Narcissism has taken it all.
 
Obviously should be taken with a pinch of salt, but I think it would do a lot of damage.


I hope you are right. My concern is that after a few more weeks of tabloids and Tory MPs pushing the blame onto everyone else, those numbers might start to shift again. It's hard to pin down a man who as the quote above puts it is an "absolutely hollowed-out human".

I mean, the state of this:

 
Let him blabber on but don’t let him goad you into getting an election pre Oct 31
 
Will someone wipe that smug off Priti Patel's face please.
The thing is, what does she have to be smug about?`

It's literally like a chav being smug to police to look tough in front of their friends. They just lost in court ffs :lol: These people are pathetic and how anyone can still have any sort of respect for them amazes me.
 
I feel that a VONC, extension and GE declaration is the safest option.

I'm sure BoJo will find a way to wriggle out of the law (either by resignation, complete affront for it or some other hi-jink) and that would potentially leave the opposition with potentially too little time to react.
 
Labour MP Paula Sherriff just had a withering, emotional outburst in the Commons, saying Johnson should be “ashamed” of his conduct and that MPs had been threatened and put in danger, and should enjoy more respect from the prime minister.

The PM rebuffed her remarks with blunt indifference.

This from the HuffPost’s Paul Waugh:

Wow. Boris Johnson responds to an emotional plea by Paula Sheriff to stop using perjorative and 'dangerous' language like 'Surrender Act' (citing memory of Jo Cox and referring to new death threats to MPs), by saying her remarks are mere "Humbug".
Total fury on Labour benches.

(Guardian)

Oh right. So the new tactic if you can't prorogue parliament is to to be such a complete cnut to everyone that they just don't come in.

Someone put an end to this tit and his gormless sycophants.
 
Watched a repeat of Cox’s performance. Considering the situation, he was ruthless