Westminster Politics

Sweet Square said:
yeah feck those guys for wanting......er.........more democracy.
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It's created a divide within the Labour Party - granted for the New Labour twats but regardless it leaves a bigger opening for the Tories if votes are going to be split.
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
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Wow, Mann is the MP from my families constituency back home. I hate his Brexit stance but he’s supposedly a decent guy who spends a lot of time visiting constituents including my folks. Can’t believe he’s jumping ship to work with this Tory party, that’s outrageous and a slap in the face to the people of that area. It’s been a Labour seat since 1929 ffs.

Particularly dumb considering this government may be out of office in just a month or so, and then he’ll have burned his reputation for absolutely nothing.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
It's created a divide within the Labour Party - granted for the New Labour twats but regardless it leaves a bigger opening for the Tories if votes are going to be split.
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Surely different wings of political parties need different groups to advance their own interests though? If the New Labour wings have Progress and the like, only makes sense for the left-wing to have a strong advocacy group. Even if Momentum are far from perfect.
 
Cheesy said:
Surely different wings of political parties need different groups to advance their own interests though? If the New Labour wings have Progress and the like, only makes sense for the left-wing to have a strong advocacy group. Even if Momentum are far from perfect.
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Dobba said:
Unlike Progress which has been running, without 99% of the people who scream about Momentum giving the tiniest shit, since 1996.
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Oh, I know about Progress and, to be honest, feck them. My point is and always will be that divides within the party itself can damage their chances come election. I know it's a "no shit Sherlock" statement to make, but this is me we're talking about here.
 
Kentonio said:
Wow, Mann is the MP from my families constituency back home. I hate his Brexit stance but he’s supposedly a decent guy who spends a lot of time visiting constituents including my folks. Can’t believe he’s jumping ship to work with this Tory party, that’s outrageous and a slap in the face to the people of that area. It’s been a Labour seat since 1929 ffs.

Particularly dumb considering this government may be out of office in just a month or so, and then he’ll have burned his reputation for absolutely nothing.
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It’s really unfair that the new left keep accusing long standing members of the Labour Party of being “Tories” just because they.....er.... join the Tory party?
 
Anti-semitism tsar is an unfortunate title.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Oh, I know about Progress and, to be honest, feck them. My point is and always will be that divides within the party itself can damage their chances come election. I know it's a "no shit Sherlock" statement to make, but this is me we're talking about here.
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If you have a broad church party then you're going to get groups form to represent and push their own interests. The pushback is only because the lefts version is open to all rather than MPs and special interests like Progress.

Again though this story seems to have little to do with momentum aside from their support for lessening the threshold from half to a third. I read it was brexiteer wards that triggered it. I imagine she'll win but opening it up to democracy rather than this tenure like approach of a seat for life is not outrageous.
 
sun_tzu said:
Unless you want to back a party who want to remain in the EU... Then kinda don't
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They are offering a second referendum but something something.....Trotsky...something - insert ''ironic'' jew joke here -

Its quicker for the both of us, if I just write your reply back.
sun_tzu said:
Especially as The greens are not actually standing aside

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Cheers this is the first time I've seen this.
 
Sweet Square said:
Completely normal situation here, nothing wrong all at.

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Not sure what point you're trying to make but to be fair some old people just like working, like my Dad who is self-employed and could retire today if he really wanted to (at 76) as he has the assets, but has seen the decline his friends went through once they retired compared to his own good health and relatively agile mind and I think that scares him.
 
Shamwow said:
Not sure what point you're trying to make but to be fair some old people just like working, like my Dad who is self-employed and could retire today if he really wanted to (at 76) as he has the assets, but has seen the decline his friends went through once they retired compared to his own good health and relatively agile mind and I think that scares him.
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What line of work does your dad do ? If he's self-employed then it's hardly shelf stacking and working the shop fall.
 
Shamwow said:
Not sure what point you're trying to make but to be fair some old people just like working, like my Dad who is self-employed and could retire today if he really wanted to (at 76) as he has the assets, but has seen the decline his friends went through once they retired compared to his own good health and relatively agile mind and I think that scares him.
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That's fair enough for your dad. Personally if I could retire today I'd do it in a flash.
 
Shamwow said:
Not sure what point you're trying to make but to be fair some old people just like working, like my Dad who is self-employed and could retire today if he really wanted to (at 76) as he has the assets, but has seen the decline his friends went through once they retired compared to his own good health and relatively agile mind and I think that scares him.
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My Granddad was still working through choice close to 80 too. I know a couple that only just retired from their own business and they are in their 80s.
 
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