We desperately need a right back

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theyneverlearn said:
Clyne will be a shrewd buy in my opinion.

He is young, British and good value. He has room to improve and would walk straight into our first team improving it.

Having someone who actually understands how to defend and the offside trap will work wonders. Valencia has been at the base of a lot of goals conceded, whether directly or indirectly.
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Agreed.

We don't actually need our right back to be anabsolute world beater - especially considering weare lacking world class players in key positions that we should be looking to address as.far higher priorities.

Under £20m. Great improvement on Valencia...
 
I've seen a few articles suggesting Barcelona will replace Dani Alves with Aleix Vidal, I just wonder why we don't go for him instead of Alves, he's 6 years younger and has been quality this season, he's quick, strong and aggressive and would add some penetration down our right side.
 
Alves is the one I really don't want, would probably prefer to keep Valencia.

Clyne or Coleman for me - I would make the RB position the number one priority before departures.
 
I like Coleman but would prefer Alves to Clyne. I'd place RB 4th on our priority list though.
 
Devil may care said:
I've seen a few articles suggesting Barcelona will replace Dani Alves with Aleix Vidal, I just wonder why we don't go for him instead of Alves, he's 6 years younger and has been quality this season, he's quick, strong and aggressive and would add some penetration down our right side.
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He's excellent but has played mostly on the wing with Coke at right back. He's never really been an RB until this season, so I think Van Gaal wants a more defensively proven player.

But for Barca, they just need someone to link up, attack and overlap when Messi comes in field. If he doesn't go there he'd be a nice signing for anyone playing with wingbacks, too.

I'm not saying he can't be an RB. Just that I think there's only like 10 games of evidence to go on.
 
To the people who have watched Darmian for Torino, what do you think of Maksimovic? He has mostly played on the right of their back three, could he be capable of playing right-back?
 
Devil may care said:
I've seen a few articles suggesting Barcelona will replace Dani Alves with Aleix Vidal, I just wonder why we don't go for him instead of Alves, he's 6 years younger and has been quality this season, he's quick, strong and aggressive and would add some penetration down our right side.
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Would seem strange given that Vidal has predominantly played wide right this season from what I have seen. He's only been at Seville for one season and before that, he's had a fairly average career.
 
I like Clyne he is a good player and he had a great first half of the season. He would be a better option than anyone our current squad, he can cross the ball going forward and can actually defend as well. I don't know who else could come in and meet the demands of the PL like him. Dani Alves is a great player, but he is 32 now; so unless we sign him in the hope that another superstar RB will emerge in the next couple seasons either from our ranks or for us to buy is it worth the risk to not buy Clyne and potentially see him strengthen one our opposition teams? He is English as well which will come in handy for the squad requirements. We could even take both Alves and Clyne if we are letting go of Rafael and possibly Valencia.
 
Clyne would be a good option because of the cover he would provide at LB too. Shaw is getting injured every other week so surely it would do him a bit of good to have someone else in the team who was good enough to cover without us really missing him? That way, Shaw could get back to full match fitness, come back into the team and Clyne move back over to RB instead of Tony V.

If we are happy with Blind/Rojo/Blackett/Young as LB cover then an ideal RB would have to be Carvajal surely? Danilo signing for Madrid must give us a fighting chance of signing him? Imagine Carvajal, Herrera & Mata on the right side... :drool:
 
MkPaul said:
Clyne would be a good option because of the cover he would provide at LB too. Shaw is getting injured every other week so surely it would do him a bit of good to have someone else in the team who was good enough to cover without us really missing him? That way, Shaw could get back to full match fitness, come back into the team and Clyne move back over to RB instead of Tony V.

If we are happy with Blind/Rojo/Blackett/Young as LB cover then an ideal RB would have to be Carvajal surely? Danilo signing for Madrid must give us a fighting chance of signing him? Imagine Carvajal, Herrera & Mata on the right side... :drool:
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I don't think Carvajal is available. They'll rotate like they do on the left with Marcelo and Coentrao (well, Marcelo always plays when he's fit) but I don't think they're going to sell Carvajal. It'll be Arbeloa who leaves and we obviously won't take any interest in him.
 
Just a quick question to our La Liga regulars..I have watched Sevilla maybe 4 or 5 times this season and Aleix Vidal has always impressed me. Have I just been watching games he has played well in or has he been a consistent performer? I don't really know anything about him.

Not suggesting him as a potential option necessarily...just interested to know.
 
londonredmaniac said:
Just a quick question to our La Liga regulars..I have watched Sevilla maybe 4 or 5 times this season and Aleix Vidal has always impressed me. Have I just been watching games he has played well in or has he been a consistent performer? I don't really know anything about him.

Not suggesting him as a potential option necessarily...just interested to know.
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Check earlier on this this page. TLDR: He's very talented but has barely played RB.
 
All this talk of Alves on a 3 yr deal would make me nervous. He has had a better season this time around but his form has been very indifferent for a while before that, he's 32 and he's about to move to a league that chews up defenders. It's not hard to imagine this blowing up in our face.
 
Brophs said:
All this talk of Alves on a 3 yr deal would make me nervous. He has had a better season this time around but his form has been very indifferent for a while before that, he's 32 and he's about to move to a league that chews up defenders. It's not hard to imagine this blowing up in our face.
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Worse case scenario we're back to where we are now, using Valencia as a RB. Hardly high risk stuff given Alves is free, it's worth a shot if there aren't great alternatives about. Plus it's not like a bit more experience would hurt given we actually have quite a young team (particularly in defence).
 
Alves is a legend. If he really wants to work with Louie then it's no brainer however Clyne would only benefit from having such experienced colleague and mentor in Manchester United.

Sounds like a transfer muppetry to have both of them in a deep squad for four competitions but just like Brophs said: Premier League is a meat grinder especially for defenders and I hope minimising risk is on Woodward's mind when building a world class United team.
 
sdb4884 said:
Last thing we need is a right back with a lack of pace.
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The last thing we need is a right back who can't defend and has no positional sense. I don't want Alves at the club but even with his lack of pace he would be a huge improvement on Valencia.
 
The RB market is weak right now. Sign Alves for 2 years and start tapping up Carvajal and looking at other young players.
 
Lack of pace?? Have any of you actually watched any of arguably his best season for Barca?
 
Looks like Clyne is off to Liverpool which ids fine by me, so we are down to Fabinho or more Tony V at RB?
 
I am starting to think that maybe LVG likes Tony V at RB and so we aren't really looking for one . I hope that isn't the case but the fact that Tony played pretty much every single game in the second half and LVG praised him so much even after the cup disaster could mean that he will be first choice
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
I am starting to think that maybe LVG likes Tony V at RB and so we aren't really looking for one . I hope that isn't the case but the fact that Tony played pretty much every single game in the second half and LVG praised him so much even after the cup disaster could mean that he will be first choice
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Hard to imagine we won't sign a rb, unless there has been a huge turnaround regarding Rafael. I wonder if Fabinho's height has made him the number one choice. We we get Ramos or otamendi and have Valdes in goal we would have had the smallest back five in the league with shaw and Clyne as fullbacks. I know height isn't everything but a back five in the premier league with only one player over 6 foot is asking for trouble.
 
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I'll call it early. Rafael will be our 1st team RB next season.
I'm all for an upgrade, as he just isn't reliable, but I have a feeling that the other obtainable options out there are no upgrade to what we have.
Just a hunch.
 
Roboc7 said:
Hard to imagine we won't sign a rb, unless there has been a huge turnaround regarding Rafael. I wonder if FBI Jo's height has made him the number one choice. We we get Ramos or otamendi and have Valdes in goal we would have had the smallest back five in the league with shaw and Clyne as fullbacks. I know height isn't everything but a back five in the premier league with only one player over 6 foot is asking for trouble.
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How tall is Tony V? He's a beast in the air. When he played wing before we had Fellani we would constantly put goal kicks to him because he was so reliable at winning them.

I don't think we desperately need a right back. I actually think LVG likes Valencia at right back and while there doesn't seem to be many options out there I don't think we will push for a new one.
 
soapythecat said:
I'll call it early. Rafael will be our 1st team RB next season.
I'm all for an upgrade, as he just isn't reliable, but I have a feeling that the other obtainable options out there are no upgrade to what we have.
Just a hunch.
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Raf cannot stay fit to save his life, he is as good as gone. LVG didnt want him last season, even when he was fit so it makes no sense to go into next season with him as even a reserve RB.
 
mswiss said:
I actually think LVG likes Valencia at right back and while there doesn't seem to be many options out there I don't think we will push for a new one
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I agree, Van Gaal does seem to praise Valencia quite a bit (calling him the best player on the pitch against Arsenal for example) so it's probably unlikely that he'll be shifted. If United do get a new RB it'll likely be backup for Valencia.

Who knows? Maybe Valencia's surgery will bring him back to his best :(
 
LVG praising him after the Arsenal game must have been just a confidence boost, he was shite and got dragged across the whole pitch by Sanchez.
 
J-Stander said:
LVG praising him after the Arsenal game must have been just a confidence boost, he was shite and got dragged across the whole pitch by Sanchez.
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He was in individual and did a great job in term of marking, while Smalling covered him well. Our midfield was disgrace they are ones who didn't do they work.

Edit: His pass to De Gea(or Welbeck) was ridiculous, though.
 
J-Stander said:
LVG praising him after the Arsenal game must have been just a confidence boost, he was shite and got dragged across the whole pitch by Sanchez.
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But that praise should be nothing more than a boost ATM. Otherwise, what Valencia did in that particular match as a whole was worth plenty of punishment; I'm sure plenty of people (including myself) have asked for his head since that match.

We keep talking about adding more technically apt players at various positions, but I will never understand why nobody has the balls to tell Valencia to feck off on the bench and wait for his turn behind someone new or just leave.
 
Sometimes I can't understand why we aren't in for certain players and this is one of them. Of course we don't actually know if we were or not but for the fee being touted, given he would markedly improve our first team ahead of Valencia, I can't understand why we aren't in for him (if we aren't).
 
Swipped this from Sonny in the Clyne thread

I'm far from a Tony V fan, but credit where credit is due. He is naturally a Right Winger and is adapting, yet he has clearly out performed Clyne last season.

 
To be fair, Valencia played like 10 or so games in midfield. Still crazy for a player that's not even a RB though :lol:
 
Raw said:
To be fair, Valencia played like 10 or so games in midfield. Still crazy for a player that's not even a RB though :lol:
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True, but he is also adapting to RB to be fair to the guy.

He done a decent job overall I suppose, his one stand out game for having a nightmare is of course against Arsenal in the cup. My gripe with Tony V is his one dimensional play, continually attempting to get to the by line to smash it along the ground every time.
 
Maybe Giggs has convinced LvG to keep Rafael, Valencia has been doing well and there isn't really any top class RB's available.
 
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