That just can't be. We would be 1 injury away from playing Phil Jones or Ashley Young at RB. A title contending team cannot and should not let that happen.
We desperately need a right back
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Varela apparently is highly rated by zidane and all. Why isn't he rated by us?
Because, as everyone knows, the CAF is more knowledgable than Zidane.
Just woke up from a nightmare where it was 2019 and he was captain and still our RB.
Furthermore, a team that is contending for titles on more than one front would have sold Valencia in a very unceremonious way long ago.
I think it's got to do to with the fact that most of us on here (myself included), have never really seen him play.
Went to Castilla on loan, did well in the Spanish third divison, but Real did not exercise their buy option. Apparently Udinese are interested in him now, and we might be sending him out on loan again. Has no top level experience, and is 22. I doubt he is an answer to our problems. A stopgap solution if he stays, maybe, but one would think we're beyond that stage now.
Not really, if you're competing on multiple fronts, Valencia would be a great squad player, and an impact off the bench. Agree with the fact that he can't be a starter for us anymore, though.
Valencia was our main weak spot in our back 4 last season. Highly unlikely that no one from our staff noticed that
Which makes our apparent inactivity with regards to this all the more baffling.
If it comes to it I think LvG just needs to give another chance to Rafael, I know what people will say about his injuries, but if he can stay fit then for me he is better than Clyne ever was or is likely to be, Coleman would be ok but Everton will no doubt take the micky on the fee, although I'm sure they'd love Januzaj for a season, so maybe something could be done.
Jones could also be the plan for there, or we could be waiting to see if the Varela lad steps up in pre season.
Jones could also be the plan for there, or we could be waiting to see if the Varela lad steps up in pre season.
We've become very quiet when it comes to transfers nowadays. I wouldnt be surprised if we suddenly have 3 new players without the press knowing too much about it.
Looks like our attempts to sign a RB are very unfocused (if we were really interested in both Alves and Clyne). I felt all along that Alves was just using united's name for a new deal. As for Clyne, if we really wanted him we should've wrapped a deal up quickly, the player himself said he wanted CL football. Livershit seem to have signed him up quietly without a fuss. Now Coleman is back to being flavor of the day. Underwhelming for me
yeah spot on, this...
Tbf dealing with the DDG situation and recruiting a CB and maybe more than one CM was always more of an immediate priority than a RB so I guess it's only natural we've been a bit more lax in that area. Between Alves, Clyne, Coleman, Darmian, Fabinho and whoever else we probably knew we'd be fine regardless. Probably less of a gap between our 1st and 3rd choice in that position than any other.
We've been equally 'lax' in our CB recruitment as we haven't signed one and our Otamendi chase went cold after the player himself also hinted to wanting a move to the PL. Its still early days of course, but a few of the players we've been linked with have looked like straight forward deals, so either we're not really looking at them (which I hope is the case) or we're wasting time-another accusation i've seen in the rumor sections, teams wanting us to act quickly so they can chase replacements. Apparently Lazio said this about Felipe Anderson and Southampton about MS
Both are better than Clyne IMO. And all players are available for the right price / wages
You're dreaming. Im talking about realistic signings this summer. You honestly think we can sign one of those players in this window?
You think Azpi and Ivanovic are gettable? For us? Hmm I'll have what you're having.
The best signing we could hope for at right back is probably someone like Coleman or Darmian.
Can't help but feel RB is at the back of our priority list as far as this Summer goes, I really hope I'm wrong but it's starting to look that way.
Come on man get real. This is Chelsea and Mourinho we're talking about. The only Chelsea player we had a shot at signing was Cech. Why would a regular first team Chelsea player want to join United and leave the champions? So basically you can't name anyone realistic. As for Ramos the only reason he'd join us is because Real are not giving him what he wants. Those players you mention at Chelsea are comfortable
You would have said the same about Real / Ramos until a few days ago
So those are the two players you're hoping to see at United this summer(either or of course)?
Not necessarily - any decent right back will do!
It is looking worrying on the right back front. Seems to me like it should be a straight shoot-out between Coleman and Darmian. There really isn't anyone else good enough or attainable.
It really is a problem area for us. I could begrudgingly accept not signing a goalkeeper is de Gea leaves, as Valdes could step and prove sufficient, while the defence offers the keeper more security. Same applies to the striker department, where Rooney is still decent, just a tier or two below the top level ones. He and van Persie are still capable of having relatively decent seasons.
However, would I be satisfied with Valencia as our starting right back? Absolutely not. He's a liability there and from a defensive stand point, his positional play is pretty horrific and he's often guilty of ball-watching. He is a good 1v1 defender to his credit, but he severely blunts our attack going forward too. Even if we retained Rafael and he became first choice again, he isn't reliable enough in terms of fitness/injuries and who knows how he's going to respond after what can be perceived as clear favouritism towards Valencia from van Gaal. It might effect his confidence.
A new right back is absolutely imperative and up there with signing a central midfielder and centre back.
It really is a problem area for us. I could begrudgingly accept not signing a goalkeeper is de Gea leaves, as Valdes could step and prove sufficient, while the defence offers the keeper more security. Same applies to the striker department, where Rooney is still decent, just a tier or two below the top level ones. He and van Persie are still capable of having relatively decent seasons.
However, would I be satisfied with Valencia as our starting right back? Absolutely not. He's a liability there and from a defensive stand point, his positional play is pretty horrific and he's often guilty of ball-watching. He is a good 1v1 defender to his credit, but he severely blunts our attack going forward too. Even if we retained Rafael and he became first choice again, he isn't reliable enough in terms of fitness/injuries and who knows how he's going to respond after what can be perceived as clear favouritism towards Valencia from van Gaal. It might effect his confidence.
A new right back is absolutely imperative and up there with signing a central midfielder and centre back.
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Like who else specifically other than those Chelsea players?
I'm pissed off how we let Pool sign Clyne for £12.5M. Now watch us drag the Coleman signing until August and pay £30M+. Is Coleman 3 times better, than Clyne? Personally I like Clyne better. Watch him have a stormer next season. I'm really baffled - we have CL football and better wages, yet Pool manage to steal Clyne for a penny from under our noses.
It's not baffling, we obviously didn't want him.
Personally, if I was in charge, I would have got Clyne at that price and spent the big bucks on more important positions. Besides, Clyne was one of the best right backs last season.
Coleman is the better player but maybe not better value. Still, the extra 8 or so million means a lot less to us than it does to Liverpool. They need to focus on value signings more than we do so Clyne made more sense for them.
They didn't steal him from under our noses. It was reported that we dropped our interest in Clyne around the same time he changed his agent. IMO United were still chasing Alves and keeping Clyne in mind as a plan B, and he got impatient and opened talks with Liverpool. Clyne himself said he was looking to play CL football, if we were serious he'd be playing for us. Coleman is not better than Clyne and you're right he's going to cost a lot
I still think Clyne is abit over-rated. He had a superb season last year yes, but when he played for England he was very average id say. He'll be good for Liverpool but not good enough for us. His final ball and delivery isn't up to the standard we need. We would be better having Valencia imo. At least Coleman has the whole package
Can we not just play Rafael? *sigh*
Couldn't give a toss about Clyne going to the scousers as I don't rate him too highly. But credit to them, they have got a decent player for a good fee with little fuss.
Although we definitely need a RB, we don't appear to be making any great strides to acquire one. The links with Coleman appear to be tenuous and without any real foundation. The stories actually seem to stem from the fact that Everton are apparently going to bid for Sam Byram.
We are naturally linked with flavours of the month like Fabinho and Darmian, but again, they seem tenuous links. Darmian is an interesting one as I've heard good things about him and he would cost less than Coleman. Fabinho is a flavour of the month player who everyone has become an expert on after playing against Arsenal as a DM. I know next to nothing about him so I can't get excited about that particular one.
If we go into next season with Valencia as our first choice RB and Rafael as our 251st choice RB who can only play if literally no other right footed player is available, it will be underwhelming.
Although we definitely need a RB, we don't appear to be making any great strides to acquire one. The links with Coleman appear to be tenuous and without any real foundation. The stories actually seem to stem from the fact that Everton are apparently going to bid for Sam Byram.
We are naturally linked with flavours of the month like Fabinho and Darmian, but again, they seem tenuous links. Darmian is an interesting one as I've heard good things about him and he would cost less than Coleman. Fabinho is a flavour of the month player who everyone has become an expert on after playing against Arsenal as a DM. I know next to nothing about him so I can't get excited about that particular one.
If we go into next season with Valencia as our first choice RB and Rafael as our 251st choice RB who can only play if literally no other right footed player is available, it will be underwhelming.
Given the right backs we've been linked with so far, I'd much rather we gave Rafael a fair chance to win his place. I'm sure with another pre-season, Giggsy will be able to coach LvG's philosophy into him somehow. And we'll get to save about 20mil on what might be the most unispired piece of transfer business this summer.
There are, apparently other issues with clyne, i think around attitude. ( look at how England treated him). I think that explains why our (and other clubs) interest waned after Christmas.
He did? Not in my book
I wonder how much Galatasary would want for this man!
Fabinho???
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