Agree I think they where excellent. Reminded me of FC Basel knocking us out under SAF
We are an awfully coached team
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I think the bottom line is Ole is not getting the best out of this team with the players we have.
If you swapped Pep with Ole, we would have destroyed them tonight.
I want him to win, but from what i have seen i would be betting against it.
If you swapped Pep with Ole, we would have destroyed them tonight.
I want him to win, but from what i have seen i would be betting against it.
What’s his record like against the greatest managers of all time like?
Yeah get the little 'SAF did it too guys' meme in there. We would of at least drawn that game under SAF.
Oh man, we were properly shit that night. It was horrible.
It was a bit surprising how easily we caved after we went down to 10 against such a relatively lacklustre side.
I'm pretty confident that Chelsea, City and Liverpool would have gotten all 3 points if they had gone a man down against Young Boys. Not only that but I reckon that they would have continued to create chances after going down to 10.
I'm pretty confident that Chelsea, City and Liverpool would have gotten all 3 points if they had gone a man down against Young Boys. Not only that but I reckon that they would have continued to create chances after going down to 10.
I mean Chelsea looked more threatening with 10 mean against fecking Liverpool than we did against Young Boys. And our squad is just as good. So what is it?
Seriously?
Underdog mentality.
Yeah but if Pep was our manager neither result would have happened I don’t think. If only Pep was our manager, the Man City manager. Do you think we can get him to be our manager? Or Klopp? The Liverpool manager, I wish he was the manager
Always an excuse when it suits
This means nothing. You surely remember us losing at Anfield under SAF on a regular basis while we win the league and they finish 7th.
No I don’t. We had a decent record vs Liverpool under Saf. It means everything.
Also we won 2 out of 10 in the league against the so called big 6 last year with even Arsenal getting more points. Yet we finish 2nd and Arsenal 8th
If folks don't understand this thread, just watch some of the other CL matches on right now. Regardless of result, watch the way these elite teams play football. And then compare it to us.
We win matches because we have some absolutely elite indivduals. To dine at the top table, you need more than that, you need elite coaching too.
We win matches because we have some absolutely elite indivduals. To dine at the top table, you need more than that, you need elite coaching too.
By that logic we get arteta in then?
Already with a thread of beads in our hands hoping the mighty Young Boys are able to win against the other teams in the group so that we can qualify? Yeah, that has me filled with confidence.
There is no coaching at all here. Enjoy in game. That is it
Ole, Carrick and McKenna have their badges! They are good coaches. I think Lee Grant might not have his yet, but our coaching is good!
....Aside from 2 lucky goals.
Did they created like 10 clear chances?
I'm asking because it felt like we're being demolished by Young Boys.
Did they created like 10 clear chances?
I'm asking because it felt like we're being demolished by Young Boys.
De gea had to make some saves man
Yes, they have their badges. Out of curiosity how would you do it tonight?
They didn't create that many but they also entirely dominated the game after the red card and created pressure in dangerous positions while we did exactly nothing since the red card.. we were demolished.
Of course. Outside of the box stuff. Other than that?
The club has to watch this closely. We’ve got absolute world class players in Ronaldo and Varane now, alongside borderline ones like Bruno and Pogba who will want to win everything. How long can we keep them if this level of performances continue? Especially Ronaldo.
Definitely not bad coaching if some would have you believe.
SAF also would have have spelled "would have" correctly.
More to the point, shit happens. Lose your shit over it if we fail to get out of the group stage.
What do you mean other than that? If it was that easy we'd have had some as well. How many shots did we take?
Go get Zidane or conte and repeat this cycle of all is great and then all is shit and we need new manager.
Last week we were gonna win the League, now lets sack the manager
Last week we were gonna win the League, now lets sack the manager
Absolutely. Like I said in another thread, a top manager goes in at half time and gives his team the confidence to come out and control the game even with 10 men. We played exactly the way Young boys would have done if they were the ones down to 10. Surely there has to be a difference between the manager of United and young boys
Yeah but it's beyond common sense now surely? I mean we looked absolutely clueless
Think it has become an increasingly clear issue as the quality of our players has improved. Even without breaking it down into detail, you can see the difference between how well drilled City and Chelsea are compared to us at even a casual watch. It's not like those teams have flawless personnel either, but their play is much more heavily/thoroughly structured.
Wouldn't even focus so much on today's game (which was shaped by individual errors) as our PL games, including some of the ones we got good results in.
Wouldn't even focus so much on today's game (which was shaped by individual errors) as our PL games, including some of the ones we got good results in.
It is expected they dominated, we're a man down. They are a pressing team. It is well known we don't have a proper CDM.
Caf wanted us to score more goals after the red. Before half time we're so open it's disaster waiting to happen.
Spot on.
I don't think it's as simple as that. We have a good team and can beat anyone, and we tend to do well against top teams where we can find space and attack on the counter. The issue with Ole is that it feels like the team can do it only one way, and whenever faced with a tactical challenge we don't know what to do.
I can't have a clue whatsoever, I dont have my badges unfortunately.
Personally don't care about coaching anymore, Ole is adamant to rely on individual brilliance, and wants the team to be giving it all. That's his way.
But Ole has no tactical nous during games, that is a huge concern. We got a red today, and he didn't have any clue on how to set us in a defensive way whilst being able to control and at least have periods of attack to maybe nick another goal.
We will fail in European competitions because of this simply because he hasn't got plan b's and c's. Today was classic ole gunnar freestyler, and I hated that nickname, maybe I see it now.
But Ole has no tactical nous during games, that is a huge concern. We got a red today, and he didn't have any clue on how to set us in a defensive way whilst being able to control and at least have periods of attack to maybe nick another goal.
We will fail in European competitions because of this simply because he hasn't got plan b's and c's. Today was classic ole gunnar freestyler, and I hated that nickname, maybe I see it now.
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Expected they dominate? It's fecking Young Boys. A red card doesn't mean we get dominated like that. Look at other big teams who actually play competently and not rely on individual magic every game when they go a man down.
This 100%. You look at our first three goals against Newcastle. They were all down to individual brilliance.