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2016-17 Performances


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39
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8
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Can't criticise him for much in this game, Zlatan, Mikhi and Lingard were terrible. But like most have said when you compare his performance to the likes of De Bruyne/Silva you understand why we can't continue with him as a 10. Don't think we have choice now though seeing how erratic Mikhi can be
 
You dismissed Rooneys previous general game gripes as not important, as he is either scoring or assisting. You cant have it both ways, are you judging players on stats or 90 minute gameplay? Pick your poison. I'll point out Rooney didn't score or assist today by the way

Perhaps it's very difficult for you to accept that for two out of four games Rooney played BETTER than Zlatan and for two out of four games Zlatan played better than Rooney. It is so complicated?
 
Perhaps it's very difficult for you to accept that for two out of four games Rooney played BETTER than Zlatan and for two out of four games Zlatan played better than Rooney. It is so complicated?
I couldn't give a monkeys, just pointing out how your evaluations contradict between players
 
He was one of our better players, but he is physically shot.

I honestly think you can argue his lack of mobility is a bigger issue than his poor player in narrow areas for the number 10 role. He doesn't have that power and pace at all anymore.
 
If we expect to challenge for the title then yes, we should be comparing our players to rivals. Rooney's performances are nowhere near the level of Silva or De Bryune, therefore his performances should not be acceptable for United. If you're happy with how Rooney has played for the last few years then you're no better than Moyes and his "aspire to be at City's level" comments.

So we should aspire to be at City's level is what you're saying then yes?
 
I couldn't give a monkeys, just pointing out how your evaluations contradict between players

There is no contradiction. I did not say that Zlatan is shit and should be dropped.

I just pointed out that Rooney played better than Zlatan in two games out of four. It's a simple fact. They both are world class players, sometimes one will play better than the other. It's normal.
 
I didn't say we should drop Zlatan.

I did say that Rooney played BETTER than Zlatan in two out of four games! Fact!

Oh now we count who plays better instead of "Rooney scored/assisted today which means he is better than anyone else" argument. :lol:
 
There is no contradiction. I did not say that Zlatan is shit and should be dropped.

I just pointed out that Rooney played better than Zlatan in two games out of four. It's a simple fact. They both are world class players, sometimes one will play better than the other. It's normal.
Give it a rest already. Rooney isn't a world class player.
 
There is no contradiction. I did not say that Zlatan is shit and should be dropped.

I just pointed out that Rooney played better than Zlatan in two games out of four. It's a simple fact. They both are world class players, sometimes one will play better than the other. It's normal.

Top wumming
 
Can't criticise him for much in this game, Zlatan, Mikhi and Lingard were terrible. But like most have said when you compare his performance to the likes of De Bruyne/Silva you understand why we can't continue with him as a 10. Don't think we have choice now though seeing how erratic Mikhi can be
It shouldn't be No.10 or bust though, there is a strong case for playing him on the right so we could play 4-3-3 with him on the right and bring in Carrick to play the holding role.
 
Our stars are Zlatan and Rooney. Everyone else aspires to become like those two when he grows up.

We have lot of better players than Rooney who shouldn't aspire to be like him now.
 
Huh. He lost the ball leading up to City's first goal. Tried to that stupid feckin cross field pass, got closed down and City got possession back. The intention was good, but he just took too long to execute. Should've gone short to Pogs instead. I don't really remember anything else of note tbh.
 
Compared to the rest of our team he was much better.


Compared to De Bruyne, he was very poor, which should be the standard he is benchmarked against, his opposite number in the opposing team.

Your continued defence of him is admirable but if you truly think Rooney was much better than rest of team then I'm dumbfounded.
 
Compared to De Bruyne, he was very poor, which should be the standard he is benchmarked against, his opposite number in the opposing team.

Your continued defence of him is admirable but if you truly think Rooney was much better than rest of team then I'm dumbfounded.

What? Why compare him to De Bruyne? Let's figure out our own team first. What did you thin of Zlatan/Mikhi/Lingard's overall play today?
 
I'm not on the Rooney hate train but I swear he played poor today? Kept losing possession... Am I wrong?
 
Rooney is the captain of our team. He is the definition of successful player and many young players aspire to become like him someday. Perhaps this makes some people jealous... too bad.

Oh bore off Wayne.
 
Certainly had the passion today, but probably should have been subbed for Martial late on.

Whacked in too many aimless lofts
 
Can't criticise him for much in this game, Zlatan, Mikhi and Lingard were terrible. But like most have said when you compare his performance to the likes of De Bruyne/Silva you understand why we can't continue with him as a 10. Don't think we have choice now though seeing how erratic Mikhi can be

That could be said about everyone in the squad. For example, when you compare Ibrahimovic's performances to Aguero's, you understand why we can't continue with him as a 9. Or, compare Martial's performances to Ronaldo's, you understand why we can't continue with him as a winger.
 
But Zlatan is scoring, so doing his job in the team according to your defence of Rooney. So by your logic they are both doing well and contributing

Rooney was praised as the match winner for creating an assist for Rashford, they only memorable thing against Hull but when Zlatan scores a good goal against a superb City, being the only memorable thing, he gets slated? Where is the bias now?

Guys I've said the same thing to them. You don't really get a response because you've exposed the bias.
 
What pisses me off about Rooney isn't necessarily his performances, but the fact he's being accommodated in the team. We might have started with 4-3-3 and got something from the game today if not for him and him being shoehorned into a #10 position.
 
He seems to come into games more as the space opens up and he can put his head down and run into them after picking up some speed...but this whole tactic of him picking up the ball at the half-way line with his back to goal just slows down our whole game to a crawl and allows the opposition to get into a defensive shape...and he's so easily overrun/dispossessed of the ball. Nothing close to a central midfield play maker...how he continues to be allowed to do this for club and country bemuses me.

Still, after saying all that he was one of our better players today but was only a an 'acceptable' level of performance and probably around the best we can expect - I wonder how far our standards have dropped over him to consider it a good performance...I suspect a lot.
 
I think I'd have a meltdown if I saw this.

Rashford & Martial: We aspire to be like 2016 Wayne Rooney.

Are you kidding me? Of course they wish! When they are 31, if they are captaining Man Utd and their National Team and get 300 per week and also break a few scoring records that have been standing for 50 years ... ... they would sell their souls to the devil for half of this!
 
This whole excuse of saying others were also shit is tiresome and moot, when other players play shit they get dropped or subbed, when Rooney plays shit he just gets moved to a different position so he can be shit from a different angle. This is why most logical fans are sick of him, treat him as the rest are treated and there would be less anger.
 
My god you're a fecking awful poster.

Honestly, why would you say this is an awful post? I mean, if you look at the amount of things both, Rooney and Zlatan have achieved in the game, it makes sense that a young player coming through would want to aspire to be like them.

For example, if I said to Rashford, in about 10-15 years you'll win all the domestic cups there are to win in the game, you'll be United captain, England's top goalscorer and a few goals away from United's top goalscorer, he'd be over the moon.
 
Honestly, why would you say this is an awful post? I mean, if you look at the amount of things both, Rooney and Zlatan have achieved in the game, it makes sense that a young player coming through would want to aspire to be like them.

For example, if I said to Rashford, in about 10-15 years you'll win all the domestic cups there are to win in the game, you'll be United captain, England's top goalscorer and a few goals away from United's top goalscorer, he'd be over the moon.
Poster, not post, although the post is also dumb.
 
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