[Dobbs]

I honestly can't believe the state of this thread today, really makes you dispair. Easily our best player (with Valencia) and showed so much drive and energy. Expected to come into the thread to see loads of praise but again it's just people blinded by bias.

I don't think there's anybody else in this thread who thinks he deserves loads of praise after that performance.

There comes a point when if you're the only one who holds an opinion you have to question if maybe you're wrong.

Like most have said he was just OK today.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Your the one blinded by bias I suspect, on Whoscored Rooney has 6.60 making him our 5th worst player and two of the players lower than him were subs. It's a pity you don't win football games with a big mouth and by running around like a headless chicken, but at least you can fool some people it seems.

People need to wake up, Rooney as a 10 is dire, especially in a fast counter attacking system where you need to be quick and pass the ball with speed and directness, not take a breather before slowly sending a diagonal cross to Valencia.

It's amazing how people can claim Rooney was our best player today, but got shifted into at least 3 different positions over the course of the game.

Oh great lets turned to whos scored This thread is pointless

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I don't think there's anybody else in this thread who thinks he deserves loads of praise after that performance.

There comes a point when if you're the only one who holds an opinion you have to question if maybe you're wrong.

Like most have said he was just OK today.

Yeh because the majority on the caf definately makes something true.

 

[Yik]

Best game so far this season. He was everywhere on the pitch and played with passion. Wide right seems to be his best position. Considering how poor Mhki was it might be best to allow Pogba freedom to move up and play Rooney on the right to play diagonals/crosses.

Yes, agreed about the passion bit. Shades of Ferguson era Rooney at the end there. Especially when he took the ball off Rashford to drive forward. However whats worrying is that he doesn't have any goal threat. He doesn't ghost into the box and his long range shooting is just piss poor. Its looking like it'll be another lean season for him in terms of goals.

 

[Carl]

Been a big critic of Rooney for about 3 years now but thought he was alright today.

 

[psychdelicblues]

Cannot fault his work rate, just does not have that consistent quality you expect from a classy no 10.
The likes of De Bruyne and Silva is the gold standard or above United should be aiming for.

 

[ZDwyr]

Skipped over some pages because some will criticise him even though he wasn't that bad. He worked hard and put in a decent shift. Lacked some quality when it was needed though. Just decent.

 

[Rado_N]

He may not have been the worst player today but if that's the level of discussion then what does that say?

He's not the best option in any position, and the team would be better without him involved.

 

[Pexbo]

Been a big critic of Rooney for about 3 years now but thought he was alright today.

Yeah he was alright. Few doughnut touches, few good balls.

6.5/10.

Our better players (Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Zlatan) were no better but that doesn't absolve him of having an "alright" game. £300k a week, Captain and most experienced player needs to step up. At least the others have good will in credit.

Mourinho pushing him out wide again says it all.

 

[nick2004]

Our best player today.

Miki and Lingard were shit and cost us the game in the first half. But I am sure that in a couple of days, haters will forget all that and demand Rooney to be dropped for Kagawa... ahem I mean Miki.

 

[Sigma]

Was good today

 

[Born2Lose]

Oh great lets turned to whos scored This thread is pointless

Whoscored or a guy whose gone all out in backing Januzaj.. it's a tough choice for sure.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

I like him out wide. Could be a Beckham type winger.

 

[psychdelicblues]

Loads of praise? No one comes out of that shambles with any praise.

Indeed..........standards appears to have reached rock bottom.

 

[Dobbs]

Yeh because the majority on the caf definately makes something true.

Well that's true and I'm not saying you should change your opinion because the majority say so.

However you are the only one, even amongst other fans of his, who thinks he deserves loads of praise. That must make you think possibly your opinion is a little bias.

 

[Vilev]

He was pretty good considering how many other players were just not in the game, if we had decent wingers and not Micki&Lingard who both were comfortably worst players on the pitch maybe Rooney would have been even better.
The problem is that he and Zlatan don't really work together well enough, in many aspect they are sort of similar and they both lack speed. The second thing is his stints in midfield did not do him any favours in terms of his play in the box. Those two moments, when ball broke to him and when Zlatan headed ball his way, he should have done better, at least get a shot from one of those situation.

 

[psychdelicblues]

Reminded me of Rooney of old today, in terms of passion and aggression. For example, pushing Guardiola, or a late challenge on Bravo, etc. Haven't seen that in a while.

Indeed.......unfortunately at the very elite level you need a bit of quality to make the difference.

 

[sammsky1]

We did not lose the game because of him. In fact thought he had a satisfactory game, all things considered.

Should have been awarded a penalty as well as getting city down to 10 men.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Indeed.......unfortunately at the very elite level you need a bit of quality to make the difference.

Well.....if all of our players shown the passion of Rooney and Fellaini in the first half, we possibly wouldn't have gone two down.

 

[kouroux]

Well.....if all of our players shown the passion of Rooney and Fellaini in the first half, we possibly wouldn't have gone two down.

Passion won't win you much football matches though.

 

[ash_86]

He did good today . Having said that i always wonder how the team would perform if he could be replaced with someone better suited to play the 10 role. I'm ashamed to say it out loud but after Bravo's challenge , for a second i hoped Rooney would get subbed. I'm that desperate to see how the team would fair w/o him.

 

[NinjaZombie]

I like him out wide. Could be a Beckham type winger.

Here we go again.

 

[facund]

In the context of the team performance Rooney had an acceptable game being somewhere above the average.

Running round with his socks sagging low at the end made me think of Laurent Blanc.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Passion won't win you much football matches though.

Leicester, on paper, didn't have half the ability of a few teams last season, yet they won the league because they all fought for each other from start to end.

 

[AndyJ1985]

Here we go again.

If he doesn't cut it as the next Beckham, we should try him in defence. He shares a lot of the same attributes as Maldini.

 

[Adam-Utd]

I like him out wide. Could be a Beckham type winger.

Jesus H Christ. I thought I had seen everything on redcafe, but this takes the cake

I can't believe how so many people on this forum either completely lack the knowledge of football, or just love Rooney so much his shite doesn't stink. Unbelievable.

 

[Rossa]

Not almost, he was better on the wing. We do lack pace there though but in general he's not a great number 10. I'd much rather play a midfield of Fellaini, Herrera and Pogba with Rooney out wide

Go even wider and put him on the bench.

 

[kouroux]

Leicester, on paper, didn't have half the ability of a few teams last season, yet they won the league because they all fought for each other from start to end.

That was part of their great defending yes but the quality from Mahrez and Vardy were the deciding factors to win most football games and therefore the league. Passion will make you difficult to beat and a horror to play against but winning matches requires a certain quality in terms of finishing and creativity. Those 2 players were the 2 most in form attackers.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

That was part of their great defending yes but the quality from Mahrez and Vardy were the deciding factors to win most football games and therefore the league. Passion will make you difficult to beat and a horror to play against but winning matches requires a certain quality in terms of finishing and creativity. Those 2 players were the 2 most in form attackers.

That's why Mkhtaryan and Ibra were brought in, wern't they? To be our Mahrez and Vardy. Didn't get up to much today.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Same old story of Rooney. Tried to do his best, but his best is distinctly average. Nothing more than a 6/10 performance that any athlete could manage.

If people give him praise after than nothing performance then no wonder he's such a narcissist.

 

[Dobbs]

That's why Mkhtaryan and Ibra were brought in, wern't they? To be our Mahrez and Vardy. Didn't get up to much today.

You've been using Rooney goals and assists to defend him so far. To the point where you're almost sayong overall performamce doesn't count. Yet here you are criticising Ibra despite him scoring.

It's this type of hypocrisy that drives this thread. Most of the comments are about highlighting stuff like this.

 

[kouroux]

That's why Mkhtaryan and Ibra were brought in, wern't they? To be our Mahrez and Vardy. Didn't get up to much today.

At least Ibra is contributing even if he is playing with bad teammates. It must be a big change in comparison to PSG, Miki was a joke in this match. One to forget

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Same old story of Rooney. Tried to do his best, but his best is distinctly average. Nothing more than a 6/10 performance that any athlete could manage.

If people give him praise after than nothing performance then no wonder he's such a narcissist.

I think if Rooney was anything like Mkhitaryan or Ibra today, he would have got slated. If Mkhitaryan or Ibra was anything like Rooney today, they'd be lauded.

 

[drdoityourself]

Average, no need to be called out after this game in particular but I do wonder if he has an higher level than this average performance. Those calling him MOTM are wildly overstating it, at least Luke Shaw for me was superb.

 

[nick2004]

Passion won't win you much football matches though.

Lack of passion will lose you a lot of games.

 

[PepsiCola]

Reminded me of Rooney of old today, in terms of passion and aggression. For example, pushing Guardiola, or a late challenge on Bravo, etc. Haven't seen that in a while.

I hated that challenge in Bravo. The defence was under pressure and he relieved it, givinf city a few minutes to waste.

 

[kouroux]

Lack of passion will lose you a lot of games.

Hopefully Rooney will take all that passion of his to the bench very soon.

 

[dichinero]

Same old story of Rooney. Tried to do his best, but his best is distinctly average. Nothing more than a 6/10 performance that any athlete could manage.

If people give him praise after than nothing performance then no wonder he's such a narcissist.

This is the problem here. Standards have dropped desperately low. I watched KDB and thought that is what a #10 should look like and he didn't boss the game in a 10/10 Messi kind of way. He was 8/10 at best then I come here and see "He was excellent, amazing, best player etc ". If we are not willing to compare our players to the best then we need a rethink.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

I hated that challenge in Bravo. The defence was under pressure and he relieved it, givinf city a few minutes to waste.

Yes, I thought it was very stupid too. Pointless.

 

[Adam-Utd]

I think if Rooney was anything like Mkhitaryan or Ibra today, he would have got slated. If Mkhitaryan or Ibra was anything like Rooney today, they'd be lauded.

Nope, they were both poor, but if it was a choice of giving mhki another 20 minutes one the right or putting Rooney there, it's mkhi every time. The fact we have to shoehorn him into the team rather than play the best players for the match is extremely worrying.

The formation in the 2nd half would have given mkhi more help, he was getting 2 on 1 tackled every time the ball broke to him first half. Saying that though he and lingard both had good reasons to get subbed.