The Wide Pele.
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- Assists
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He was ok today, better than a lot of players, but I wish he would stop taking all the set pieces.
I know mate, I feel this forum is very protective of their favourites, same way Herrera could do no wrong either. All I want is the best for MUFC. I don't see how anybody can watch Rooney and think wow great performance. Yes he ran around a bit but that shouldn't be commented on, that's be minimum expected?
How many goal attempts, assists or chances did he make today? Absolutely sod all. Like you say compare him to silva or de bruyne and its night and day.
But no of course as soon as his name is mentioned in a negative way it's "oh no not again" "can't you give him a break"
Why?
His set pieces were well taken and they were the most dangerous situations we created.
Whom would you prefer to take the set pieces?
That's because Bravo shat his pants. And it's not just this game, his delivery lacks pace and he fails to get past the first player often
His corners and free kicks are too floaty and high. He needs to whip them in with more pace and a flatter tragectory.
He was better than some of his team mates, but that was not a great performance.
He was pretty good. And he earned a penalty for sure. We cannot help the ref is an idiot.
Him and Valencia were the only two outfield starters that played OK.
Rooeny was better than he usually is. Which really isn't much of a compliment.
I thought he played much better than the previous games. Much as I have been criticising him over the season, he seems to be improving each game.
Certainly up for it today, which was good to see.
Certainly up for it today, which was good to see.
You didn't answer : whom would you prefer to take the set pieces?
Average today, lost the ball a lot, crosses weren't threatening, but by no means the worst on the pitch.
Its typical of how Rooney starts a season. He builds up each game...then hits a purple patch.
My problem was not Rooney by a long shot. some players did not perform and totally insane way the team played. This has nothing to do with formation or tactics. Not pressing the opposition defence/goalkeeper. Stupid of Blind not pushing up...that was a very soft goal. Both goals were because of these stupid actions.
In more ways than one.
Good improvement from him, good cross as well. Much better than a lot of our attackers today.
Herrera. We waste corners far too often, we have a tall team and we should be getting better delivery in.
We should try something new because it's not working with Rooney. Been that way with him and Mata for almost two seasons now
If Rooney must start then he should be on either flanks to cause us less and the opponents more damage. We need pace through the middle while Rooney's lack of can be softened by Shaw or Valencia.
I'm convinced that some of the posters are too young to remember what high standards used to look like, thanks to Moyes and LvG or they are more concerned about supporting Wayne Rooney FC than United.I know mate, I feel this forum is very protective of their favourites, same way Herrera could do no wrong either. All I want is the best for MUFC. I don't see how anybody can watch Rooney and think wow great performance. Yes he ran around a bit but that shouldn't be commented on, that's be minimum expected?
How many goal attempts, assists or chances did he make today? Absolutely sod all. Like you say compare him to silva or de bruyne and its night and day.
But no of course as soon as his name is mentioned in a negative way it's "oh no not again" "can't you give him a break"
There was a time when our top players or captain set the standards so high you'd think without then we'd lose every game and even in the event we lost you would still say that his performances would be a benchmark for the next game. Instead, after a loss to our rivals at home there are comments like "at least he showed passion and aggression". Well, duh he's the Captain and he's paid to do that. Besides what does clashing with the opposition manager and risking a caution have to do with winning a match? What does clattering into Bravo, killing the tempo when we had then on their backsides and further risking a sending off, knowing that have a bad history with temper, we are chasing the game and you're the captain have to do with winning a game.
Now it's "at least he can take corner kicks". I don't know what the stat was today but against Slovakia it only 1out of 9 that was successful.
Every player needs to stand up and be counted but it must start from our captain. Kompany is not the best player at City, far from it but his performances sets the standards. With ours it's always at least this, at least that!
Rooney so far this season:
Leicester: he was terrible.
Burnley: Poor first half/good second half.
Southampton: Excelent.
Hull: Ok, great assist but wasn't amazing, but had a better game then alot of our team
Man City: pretty much same as Hull, wasn't great, but was Ok, out played a lot of players (inc. Mkhitaryan, Ibra, Pogba....)
so while Rooney would not have been in my first team at the start of the season, the abuse he has received has been just stupid.
Leicester: he was terrible.
Burnley: Poor first half/good second half.
Southampton: Excelent.
Hull: Ok, great assist but wasn't amazing, but had a better game then alot of our team
Man City: pretty much same as Hull, wasn't great, but was Ok, out played a lot of players (inc. Mkhitaryan, Ibra, Pogba....)
so while Rooney would not have been in my first team at the start of the season, the abuse he has received has been just stupid.
IF that's an excellent performance you need your head shaking. You must not watch a lot of football other than our games, because that wouldn't even register on a "OK" Messi/Ronaldo performance. Excellent my ass.
Thought he did alright, battled to the end, he's not the player he was but we've known that for a long while.
i don't understand your point unless some one plays to the level of two players who are in a league of their own you can't describe them as excellent?
Rooney by his standards, the standards of other united players was excellent against southampton
Do you see my point now?
Argh! that doesn't make it a excellent performance FFS! so your admitting it was actually pretty rubbish, but that's just Rooney's standard. Fantastic
Rooney was definitely among our better players. A stark contrast to when many(including me) used to say not the worst player.
The biggest proof of bias against Rooney can be seen in matchday ratings. Surely he was better than a 5.6 and definitely better than Ibra!
The biggest proof of bias against Rooney can be seen in matchday ratings. Surely he was better than a 5.6 and definitely better than Ibra!
If we expect to challenge for the title then yes, we should be comparing our players to rivals. Rooney's performances are nowhere near the level of Silva or De Bryune, therefore his performances should not be acceptable for United. If you're happy with how Rooney has played for the last few years then you're no better than Moyes and his "aspire to be at City's level" comments.
not just by his standards but by the standards of the players around him.Argh! that doesn't make it a excellent performance FFS! so your admitting it was actually pretty rubbish, but that's just Rooney's standard. Fantastic
im not a massive Rooney fan, like i said in the original post i wouldn't of picked him in my starting 11 at the start of the season, but if a players has a good game ill say they have a good game. and Rooney played very well against southampton. If you want to nit pick an say well it wasn't quite excellent then knock your self out
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He might be turning 31 in a month's time but Wayne has been at it since 16. Father time has simply caught up with him, no shame in that. He's the equivalent of somebody who debuted at 20 turning 35 soon.
We played four games in the league.
In two of those games Rooney was much better than Zlatan.
In two of those games Rooney was much better than Zlatan.
But Zlatan is scoring, so doing his job in the team according to your defence of Rooney. So by your logic they are both doing well and contributing
I was going to ask the Rooneyites where the bar was set to constitute his performances as excellent or OK but then I think most players would trip over it if there was even a bar at all.
Compared to the rest of our team he was much better.
You mean the player that scored in 4 of our last 5?
Zlatan has a specific job to do and he contributes over and above. Not sure how on earth you can come up with that drivel
No no no, if a forward scores he's played worse than Rooney no matter his performances.
He had some OK moments today but that's comparative against his shocking first half.
Rooney was praised as the match winner for creating an assist for Rashford, they only memorable thing against Hull but when Zlatan scores a good goal against a superb City, being the only memorable thing, he gets slated? Where is the bias now?
I didn't say we should drop Zlatan.
I did say that Rooney played BETTER than Zlatan in two out of four games! Fact!
Are you serious over here! Zlatan scored because of a goalkeeping error. Secondly, I think many "certified" rooney haters will attest to the fact that he was better than Zlatan, who was hurrying up(not the exact word I'm looking for, but I hope you get what I mean) his shots. And Thirdly, no on's saying Zlatan should be dropped. All I'm saying is that on a day where it is obvious that he was the best among the 4 attackers who started, he still doesn't get the highest rating
You dismissed Rooneys previous general game gripes as not important, as he is either scoring or assisting. You cant have it both ways, are you judging players on stats or 90 minute gameplay? Pick your poison. I'll point out Rooney didn't score or assist today by the way
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