I personally thought he was a level above Garrincha at his best.
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Nick still exists in 2004.Rooney was World Class player 4 or 5 years ago!!
Thought so too.
I thought he played with a fire and had some pure passion atleast, but sadly just not enough quality when it really mattered IMO
We're using an ex great player as the control centre of our football and it's beyond him ( as hard as he tries). Instead of helping us flow, he slows our play down, doesn't run into space and has a terrible touch when under pressure.
We don't want ok-ish, from our so called best players, we need brilliant touches time after time after time, not just once or twice in a game.
We don't want ok-ish, from our so called best players, we need brilliant touches time after time after time, not just once or twice in a game.
Rooney's cross led to our only goal. He should also get a penalty and a red card for their keeper. And another penalty for Otamendi 's hand.
Unfortunately the rest of our star players didn't produce much.
Unfortunately the rest of our star players didn't produce much.
Was like becks on the right 
United won't compete for the title with Rooney in the team. Even top 4 may be difficult to achieve as ridiculous as this may sound. People tend to underestimate Liverpool and Spurs. Throwing some 400m at new players over the last few years and still having the likes of Rooney, Fellaini and Lingard start in a big big game. Depressing.
He's pretty much a hinder nowadays through our center area, be it midfielder, #10. His most of his best moment so far this season were from while area since he has more space and his (crossing) technique is good
Poor goalkeeping, swings and roundabouts win some lose some decisions = chance not skill.
You've been on the Becks.
Beckham today, as a retired footballer > Rooney today & every day for the last 5yrs.
Unfortunately he will 100% be on the pitch every game where fit. I hope he takes a few weeks out to replace some hair plugs and Jose realises there's life without spud-head.
Mourinho's deifying of Rooney, use if Pogba and yesterday's tactical blunder is making me wonder whether he still got it or is now living on his achievements of six years ago. Some of these issues are clear as daylight; Rooney and Zlatan will encourage teams to push up against us, we need to build around our record signing not shoehorn him in and a player of Martial's talent is one you persist with whereas Zlatan souldn't be the centerpiece to our designs at this stage of his career particularly when his lack of pace and general play haven't been all that - the roles in our attack shouldn't be locked when no one has really performed to a level that make the position their own.
You will probably get stick for some of your points, but I agree 100%. Sort it out Mou!
This is my problem. If Rooney isn't doing the business in one position, why do we have to keep moving him around?
It's not compulsory Rooney must play. Excellent in your position or your not in the team. No other player has this luxury.
So true. At the moment we are not shifting him around to benefit the team by strengthening the position he moves to, we are moving him to strengthen the position he is supposed to be playing in.
This is why I asked the question earlier in the thread of "in which position is he the best option", because the unfortunate answer is "none".
The guy comparing him to Beckham on the wing obviously never watched Beckham play. That's just a bizarre insult to one of the best wingers this club has ever had.
I will lose my shit if we sacrifice one of Martial or Rashford to play him on the wing. We need genuine pace and threat out wide. No don't we will have some here arguing that he's a world class winger. Some are already hinting it. It never ends.
It's the second time in the last few weeks, Gaz has doubted Rooney in the No.10 role. The first time was when he accused Mourinho of stifling Rooney's move into midfield. But Gary is still insisting that Rooney must play, regardless of the position. How are we meant to build a successful team chemistry when that is happening?
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I'm already pissed off and losing a little faith in Jose with this. Surely he can't believe sacrificing those two for Rooney is doing the team any favours? I really hope this doesn't happen. Wish Rooney could be unselfish and just retire.
I thought he was our best player in the first half. Honestly didn't even notice him in the second half.
What do you guys think if/when Jose realises he shouldn't play Ibra and Rooney together - who is he going to bench? And what kind of problems will that have in the dressing room?
I said yesterday that Mourinho moved him wide in every game so far, which obvsiously means Mourinho isn't happy with his performances as a #10 at all. He had some decent moments on the wing these last few games but I think that mostly happened because he has more space on the wing when we bring other players in the game who are more dangerous than him so opponents will give him more space and centrate on others, but in general he isn't suited to the wing either, probably even less than to number ten role. I can't see him having any impact from the wing when we start him there instead of just move him wide during the game, and he is obviously not good enough in the number ten either for a team chasing the title. At best he should be rotation player for a number ten position, and I think he can actually be effective coming on in the second half.
There's also no reason for him to take any of Rashford or Martial's position because they are obviously players we should be building the team around.
I think he's already having doubts. In the last three games, the first tactical change has been to move Rooney wide. Ibrahimovic will start no matter what. I think that's a given.
To be fair, he was pointing out Rooney's delivery from out wide. I don't personally think Rooney's delivery is all that but it was his cross that got Zlatan his goal against Southampton so some might think he could do a job there.
We don't really have wingers nowadays do we? All we've got are wide forwards and attacking midfielders. Strange times.
One half decent cross that needed a gk blunder to lead to a goal doesn't justify comparisons to Beckham ffs
Really unfair comparison to Victoria, IMO.
That was because he was delivering all those long balls into Fellaini and Zlatan in the second. Its amazing how this club almost always forgets all about playing football on the ground at the first sign of pressure, no matter who's the manager.
Not up to me to say but I think he wasn't just referring to that cross yesterday.
But if we are to start judging players using the same metrics as Rooney apologists do for him, Herrera delivered a pretty sweet cross that was just about cut out by City, with his left foot, no less. Maybe he should be our left winger.
Rooney basically went into Steven Gerrard mode. Some, including myself, have long suggested he was on his way to being our Gerrard. I think we're past that point now. At least in Liverpool's case, Gerrard was a Scouse in a Scouse club. I cringe whenever I hear those "Rooneh" chants by our fans.
Whilst we continue to build a team around Wayne we'll only ever be a good team. We need to start building the team around Pogba and then we'll see a difference.
its worse though, Gerrard was at the end of his contract and 34/35. Rooney has what, 3 years and still 30 years old
99% of fans want him dropped and sold.
Why on earth is he still playing? Its a disgrace to the fans.
Why on earth is he still playing? Its a disgrace to the fans.
I think I'll actually have a meltdown here if he survives Jose.
I've been on the Rooney out train since Moyes' appointment. This season, it makes more sense to get rid of him than the last 3 years combined.
Rooney is stopping the evolution of this side. Would Rooney be in the side if Sir Alex was around?... Sir Alex made these unpopular decisions but he did for the benefit of the team. LVG didn't have the balls to it, Let's see if Mourinho has the balls to make this decision. It needs to be made.
I am starting to believe the theory that it's part of his contract that he plays. The way he's shoehorned in to the team in so many different positions, no matter how shit he plays, makes me think it goes beyond the managers decision. I can understand the "captain shall always play" bullshit from van Gaal, but I refuse to believe Mourinho is this stupid.
Yeah there's a lot to that, especially because he doesn't play in a set position and likes to drop wherever he wants to get on the ball at all times. Its an amazing quality to have if he was actually good like he was in '09 but when he does that while being as poor as he's been it dictates the entire style of the team.
Variety of reasons probably. The dressing room, Mourinho's problems at Chelsea last season, the media backlash that will result from dropping him.
In short: we're fecked.
Its funny because when Rooney was out wide he made numerous key passes that we had failed to make with everybody else in the right side.
I can only comment from watchung within the ground but there was a lot of disgruntled people until our chances came from Rooney whipping the ball in. Including the goal (which came from a Rooney whipped ball in, a set piece) Rooney was key in giving zlatan, the easiest chance he will have all season and then again later playing the ball in from out wide for Lingard (zlatan missed another chance).
Its easy to criticise Rooney, everyone wants it to be fenerbache all over again, fact is when Man Utd started playing well, it came from Rooney playing wide right.
Is he the best right mid in the world - not a chance
Is he our best right mid - id also say no
He was the only one providing a threat from out wide.
99% of match going fans want Rooney to remain and not sold, forum users and arm chairs want him sold.
This isnt fifa, this is real life. Everybody wanted Rooney dropped for mickey, not everyone is saying mickey needs time to settle, funny that.
So long as Rooney isnt causing the team to play poor im happy for him to carry on starting. Some of you expect messi & ronaldo performances from him. I expect him to be the best person UTD have jn the position he plays.
I was all for taking him off before he moved wide right and we started playing again.
Because 99% of fans don't have a clue. If you genuinely feel selling him would improve us as a team I find that shocking.
You didn't notice Rashford change the game then
99% of Old Trafford certainly don't want him in the team, England fans are hardly celebrating 2 more years of him either
Its incredible people ignore he was moved to right wing because he couldn't handle the pressing in the middle. Which flank is he on next week?
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