He takes the fun out of watching United these days. It's becoming embarrassing to watch.
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And that makes it ok somehow? I want him out the first team, but as long as he's assisting or scoring can't complain too much. You say people who defend Rooney are trying to discredit valid criticism? I'm yet to find poster who doesn't think Rooney should be out of first eleven, everyone here are aware of him being poor, just some don't want to read same old crap over and over again.
I love the argument that says if we have another player playing instead of Rooney, we would have scored much earlier. I would agree on that if only one of the player in that game who was missing for most part (guess who?) was played by another player as well.
They don't just want Rooney to be out of the 1st eleven, they want him out altogether. Wishing for injury, China, MLS, conspiracy theory to name a few.
If someone want him gone to China, MLS, retirement home that's ok, people have different opinions, but calling him names or wishing injuries is never acceptable.
Oh and your previous post, yeah, it's like he's qulity of Ibra and Pogba missing chances.
We got fifth primarily because he was awful for the first half of the season and we had no target man and no creativity and pace out wide, coupled with a negative approach. If everyone is playing at their best Rooney is our fourth best attacker, but at the minute nobody is full throttle.
He's an X-Man now? Good job Wazza, that fight with Apoca-who paid off.
Even with all of this, we're better than bluemoon. Not sure about RAWK, they are a proper forum, of course, with entertainment coming every now and then from there. They can also properly say fukin' gugl, right knuts.
His first half performance was utter shambles. Particularly when he lost the ball 3 times within a minute.
Credit for his assist though. It's moments like these that somewhat justify him still starting for us.
Credit for his assist though. It's moments like these that somewhat justify him still starting for us.
I never said it was ok. But don't make it like he's constantly getting insulted.
There is nothing wrong with the rest but that's BS. If there were posters wishing him injury, i'm sure they would have been banned.
That's not bullshit, it happened back some pages.
For the past 3 days, I think i have reported 2 posts for the reason I posted. Still see one around, maybe because he started the post by writing "I know I will get slated for this...".
edit: yeah, the one Black Adder posted above me, still around 'criticizing'.
Rashford is the name on every Utd fans lips and Rooney is keeping him out of the side. Jose Mourinho isn't giving Rashford his head like David Moyes once gave a young Wayne Rooney at Everton.. Young players need a chance
Of course there will be anger ! We finally have a striker coming through our ranks which hadn't happened in years probably since the 80s.. Who has it all, pace which we severely lack and he looks like he could play every game
The frustration is understandable
Of course there will be anger ! We finally have a striker coming through our ranks which hadn't happened in years probably since the 80s.. Who has it all, pace which we severely lack and he looks like he could play every game
The frustration is understandable
So none of Martial, Mata or Ibra are keeping Rashford out of the side only Rooney?
Then report the post. What i'm against is people giving the imperssion that people who criticise him also hate him, insult him, have agenda and wish him harm. That's the BS i'm talking about.
Well, some do, that's just fact. That post being one example.
You would like to think so, maybe they have been or given a warning at least. Sad day when United fans are wishing injury on our own players.
Between that and the idiotic guff like ''Oh great this goal/assist will mean he gets picked again next week''. Imagine if he stayed in the side all season by scoring or assisting in every game this year, oh the horror.
This type if shit really does highlight though that some now hate the guy so much they just want him out of the side (and probably club) no matter what.
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Well in any case, I am sure the vast majority of fans who want him out are like myself. Happy for him to score and assist as long as it helps the team. I don't think majority of people who want him out were celebrating Rashford's goal any less because it was an assist by Rooney. That doesn't mean there aren't legitimate reasons for wanting him out of the side or thinking it's best for the club to let him go.
Above all most people want him to be judged on performances. The "my captain always plays" put off a lot of people and from what Mourinho has just said, that's not the case. So personally, i'm happy with that.
You'd struggle to find many more examples. I'd imagine if you trawled the entire thread you'd only find a handful of posts that warrant the silly agenda/hate tag.
The moaning about these posts however goes on and on and on......
Those posts should fit right in then in this thread.
No other player performance thread has barely broke 30 pages with most at 10-15 yet only 3 games into the season this one's already at 70 pages long.
Of course it does; because it's deliberate. They take one or two posts, often from the notoriously knee-jerk Matchday threads, and imply that those posts are representive of Rooney critics. They claim to be neutral and/or the voice of reason but their bias and special pleading is obvious; yet only one side of the debate gets accused of lying, exaggeration, bizarre theorising and so on. This doesn't go for all Wayne's defenders, of course (and that's more of a concession than you'll see from those who debate using the smoke and mirrors of faux outrage etc), but the real 'usual suspects' and their disingenuousness are often, literally, insulting.
And yet when he's out injured, this thread barely gets a bump - not even to ask 'When is he back?'. Curious, for such a supposedly massively important player; go figure.
Yeah, thankfully. Does happen though, and this wasn't the first time I've seen it - not necessarily in this thread.
On par with this thread.
It's Wayne Rooney. He's been generating more column inches, more front and back covers than anybody else for over a decade. On top of that he's our longest serving player and his place in the team is the most contentious one. His thread being the biggest shouldn't come as a surprise.
Nothing like a big dose of mock outrage to distract from the truth. No idea why these guys do it though.
Wasn't at his best in some tough conditions but the way he sold that defender and pushed the ball past him was brilliant, really intelligent play.
Players who can do that even once in a game will play. There shouldn't be any mystery about why he's being picked after that.
Players who can do that even once in a game will play. There shouldn't be any mystery about why he's being picked after that.
Against Leicester we saw glimses of how poor he can be when we face a higher pressing team. City in the first half yesterday was all over West Ham. If they go out with the same approach in the derby he's going to struggle big time. Hopefully he'll be able to pull out a worldie of an assist, like he did against Leicester and save his personal performance.
If Isco goes to Spurs for the year for 10-15M in wages and loan fees, knowing we could have just paid for that by shipping Rooney off to Milan, Beijing, Merseyside or Los Angeles will infuriate me.
Ronney wants to break Charlton's record. So does the club. I'm sure this is his last season with us.
He had some awful touches v Hull. But only he could have made that assist. The Rooney of old.
He will play against City. I expect him to have a good game.
He had some awful touches v Hull. But only he could have made that assist. The Rooney of old.
He will play against City. I expect him to have a good game.
I went and did further analysis of his performance and I could not find the 4 chances he created as noted in the whoscored page. I only counted two, one being the assist and the second being the set piece where he found Zlatan. Else, the other chances he created did not reach his men or did not create a goal scoring opportunity. Even though, crosses can be sited as chances, these crosses were inadequate and ineffective.
After reanalyzing his performance, I still can not see how he was good in that game. He went from bad to average, while having one great moment. The rest of his performance was average and he did not provide any spark, inventiveness or drive from that performance. I know the standard for Rooney has gone down the past couple of years, but even by his standard that did not look like a good performance.
On the bold part, I disagree completely. if you remove 30 secs from any forwards game, if they had a good or great performance, we will see more highlight of those great moment than a single 30 second interval. We did not see that from Rooney against Hull because his performance was not good, but average with a good moment.
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Excellent game for the captain!
Does anyone have a similar video for Zlatan? I know he had a bad game, but I'd like to compare.
Think third one is pass towards Martial which he didn't capitalise on (1:40), fourth could be that pass to Pogba from which Pogba almost made own goal by defender (3:20).
Completly agree with you, at best he was average after being moved to LW (LF), before that he was really bad without making any impact. But that one moment of magic made a goal and win, so fair play to him for not giving up.
Who was good vs Hull? Can we have his highlights to compare?
I have a further list of good passes that other players failed to create something. Plus, Rooney's mistakes are nonexistent, at list in this video.
I found Zlatan's. If Rooney played like that, people would moan to no end!
What you don't understand is if Rooney has a bad game then his centre forward will also most likely cop a bad game. Rooney should be providing through passes to Ibra....Ibra mostly relies on Rooney's quality service to thrive.
I looked at the other teams in the league and I realised Rooney should be operating like Ozil, Coutinho, Silva, Eriksen, Payet. However, in this group of creators, Rooney is the worst player unless you are wearing a rose-tinted glass. It says a lot that our chief creator is not among the top 5 in the league.
No one hates Rooney, we love the club and the club should be greater than any player. I appreciate all what Rooney has done for the club but for how long should we continue put up with his shit performance?
He did well for the goal, but that's getting a bit carried away.
Rooney was being beaten down when he played as a number 9 too, Poor service was barely used as an excuse then so much as him being poor. Maybe Ibra just had an awful game because he played badly? I mean we had the ball in their third for half an hour and he barely got a whiff, he was shocking.
Some of those minutes you mentioned were not chances created, while the others where poor attempt at goal. You can call that an excellent game, but I see it otherwise.
Thanks for clearing the last part up. I figured that Martial opportunity will be considered one but it did not reach his man. The fourth one, is a tough one, but I can see how that could be considered one. Nevertheless, I am not trying to undermine Rooney. I want him to perform well, however if we call that a good, great or excellent performance then, us fans must have really low expectation of Rooney.
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