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2016-17 Performances


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5.2 Season Average Rating
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39
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8
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Everyone's spot is under threat every season. Why just ask Rooney, who time and time has proved himself, regardless of who he has played under? I can see why he answered in such a manager. It's a stupid question anyway, in my opinion. They should be asking players who haven't done everything in the game or for United.


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They asked him because his form has been questionable for a very long time and there are new signings in all of the positions he plays in.

Your reply and Rooneys both smack of how dare anyone question the almighty Roo. EVerybody involved with Utd has everything to prove every single day, That's how you stay at the top.
 
He's such a pointless player these days. Really brings very little to the side - no creativity or imagination, no pace, no dribbling ability. Just seems content to pass the ball sideways and backwards endlessly.

Fair enough he scored a goal but it was given to him on a plate. I'd be annoyed if any of our other attacking players failed to score from that opportunity.
 
He wasn't awful for the full game. He definitely had some bad moments but was also average in other parts. Got subbed off again though, the gradual phasing out will continue.
 
He was average at best. Got on the ball a couple of times in the second half and linked things up - and took his goal well - but it was nothing great.
 
It's painful to see how much he has regressed in the last 12 months. His touch has never been great, but now it lets him down far too often.
 
Everyone's spot is under threat every season. Why just ask Rooney, who time and time has proved himself, regardless of who he has played under? I can see why he answered in such a manager. It's a stupid question anyway, in my opinion. They should be asking players who haven't done everything in the game or for United.

He was also right about what he said about his goals. Have a a look at his record. As he said, put him in forward positions, and he'll score goals, which is a very underrated trait. He could gave had about three yesterday, which, to me, are signs that he's getting in the right areas and is threatening.

Four more to go, Wayne.

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Like how he spent the first half of last season playing defensive midfield.....oh wait he played as a striker and you can't blame Van Gaal for his awful first touch that leads to many moves breaking down since it has clearly continued under Mourinho. As a No.10 he is adding nothing to the team and certainly not enough to justify starting ahead of Mhkitaryan and Mata or worse yet shoehorning Pogba. If there is a position in the team where he can play and sorely focus on scoring goals but without hurting the flow of play through poor control in tight areas then I'm all for it because we will face sterner tests than Bournemouth and we will get punished for carrying such a poor ball technician.
 
Edit: Just noticed the banner: 2 games - 1 Goal - 1 assist - 4.3 average rating :wenger:
I get that hating Rooney is the vogue these days, but that is just ridiculous.
It is genuinely bizarre. Again, another just pretty much normal performance in a 3-1 win and there is 12 pages of absolute drivel. It is cringeworthy and the desperation in this thread is palpable.

Watch also Coutinho and Mane vs Arsenal and come here to say that United do not deserve to have a better player than Rooney in their first XI because he is still up there with the best.
Why would I watch some other random teams and players I don't care about? It has nothing to do with Rooney.

Took his goal well, nice header. Great to see him get on the score sheet because it will do wonders for his confidence. He nearly got another when he bumped that Bournemouth defender out of the way (thought it was a foul) a bit of a spawny save from Boruc.
 
Not the best game from him. But he did score and had 2 or 3 other great chances. Top strikers always say that if you get in the right positions to score goals, you have done well. If he was sharper in his finishing he could have had a hat trick. He should have had another in the first half (passed it into the keepers arms) and could have done a lot better with the chance Ibra created for him with the back heel flick.

Also did well with his passing, although he could have done much better. But he wasnt our worst player as some here are suggesting.

Edit: Just noticed the banner: 2 games - 1 Goal - 1 assist - 4.3 average rating :wenger:
I get that hating Rooney is the vogue these days, but that is just ridiculous.

His general play isn't quick or incisive enough and I think thats what people see and focus on.

Took his goal well but overall I'd say it was an average performance.
 
Not the best game from him. But he did score and had 2 or 3 other great chances. Top strikers always say that if you get in the right positions to score goals, you have done well. If he was sharper in his finishing he could have had a hat trick. He should have had another in the first half (passed it into the keepers arms) and could have done a lot better with the chance Ibra created for him with the back heel flick.

Also did well with his passing, although he could have done much better. But he wasnt our worst player as some here are suggesting.

Edit: Just noticed the banner: 2 games - 1 Goal - 1 assist - 4.3 average rating :wenger:
I get that hating Rooney is the vogue these days, but that is just ridiculous.

Well his overall performances in both games was mediocre. The pass to Lingard should hardly count as an assist, Lingard created that goal himself. The goal yesterday does not mask his all round poor play.
 
Not everyone has time to watch teams they dont care about, I find it tough enough to get time to watch MY team!

Every fan of a team cares how well its rivals are doing even if they don't have time to watch them. Because how well his team is doing is relative to how good the rivals are. Whether it is good or bad to finish the season on 80 points depends entirely on how many points the other teams have. Likewise, whether it is good or bad to have Rooney in our team depends on the players that the rivals have. If United compete with Everton, it is no problem to have Rooney starting week in, week out. But United compete with other teams and all of them have better players as their No 10.
 
His dive was quite something. I'm not even sure he intended it. Just looked liked he lost balance from trying to sprint
 
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It is genuinely bizarre. Again, another just pretty much normal performance in a 3-1 win and there is 12 pages of absolute drivel. It is cringeworthy and the desperation in this thread is palpable.

Nice strawmen there. I can agree that some of the vitriol sent his way is too much, but it's not like it's pure coincidence that a large majority of the fanbase sees the same thing. Besides, Rooney bashing is hardly confined to Redcafe

Rooney has always been erratic in his performances, but the last two years or so, his average game has just been unacceptable for a player of his status. Hes also been tried in pretty much any position besides defense or GK, which tells us that managers don't know what to do with him, but instead just has to shoehorn him into the side because he is who he is.

Nothing would make me happier than getting "the old Rooney" back, but it just won't happen. Some players age like wine, others like sour cream, and Rooney is certainly in the former category. His game was always the physical one, he never had outstanding technique, and seeing as he has played top flight football in almost 15 years now, it's understandable that it has taken it's toll on his body.

He is still a good finisher, so he will rack up some goals, but that's about it. His overall game has declined so much it's almost depressing to see. He never takes anyone on, his touch is terrible and his passing is usually negative and very predictable. Not exactly desirable qualities in a #10 or SS. More importantly, he playing means the likes of Mata, Herrera, Mkhitaryan, Rashford etc will be left out.

It's a sad truth, but all players come to the end of their careers at some point and i firmly believe Rooney's is here. Ferdinand, Evra, Giggs and the list goes on are all players that were immense in their prime, but all looked Championship level when age and fatigue got to them. It's the same for Rooney.
 
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So I am just getting into bed to watch the game. Had a bit of a skim through the last 10 pages. I am expecting one of the most diabolical performances and for Rooney to barely control a single ball, barely complete any attacking passes and arse a chuffy goal in from absolutely nothing. We'll see how this goes.

What's the point,:lol: We know exactly what you're going to say whether you watch the game or not
 
holy shit - what if, when Moyes give Rooney his new contract in 2013 there was a clause that had X amount of playing time in there? Would explain so much...
 
holy shit - what if, when Moyes give Rooney a new contract there was a clause that had X amount of playing time in there? Would explain so much...
It's quite possible. Moyes was willing to do absolutely anything for Rooney to sign as he was completely petrified by the idea of losing him, hence a 6-year deal at 29.
 
Been searching for videos of Rooney's touches from the Leicester and yesterdays game....nothing. Someone joked about him paying off youtube uploaders but he might actually be on to something:lol:. Could someone from the caf help?
 
Am I allowed to say I thought he was alright without disgruntling the mob?:nervous: No in all seriousness I don't think he was too bad, he's a striker and he scored a goal which really is what he's in the team to do. I think it's pointless judging him as a creative force because he isn't one and never will be one. But he worked hard, got a goal and wasn't at all damaging to the side which is fine by me.
Im not sure if him and Ibra will fit long term, but perhaps with Pogba in midfield we will still have plenty of creativity.
 
holy shit - what if, when Moyes give Rooney his new contract in 2013 there was a clause that had X amount of playing time in there? Would explain so much...
It used to sound absolutely ridiculous when people suggested this but the longer it goes on the more I tend to think there's some truth in it. There is simply no other explanation.
 
It is genuinely bizarre. Again, another just pretty much normal performance in a 3-1 win and there is 12 pages of absolute drivel. It is cringeworthy and the desperation in this thread is palpable.


Why would I watch some other random teams and players I don't care about? It has nothing to do with Rooney.

Took his goal well, nice header. Great to see him get on the score sheet because it will do wonders for his confidence. He nearly got another when he bumped that Bournemouth defender out of the way (thought it was a foul) a bit of a spawny save from Boruc.

On the subject of over-the-top drivel. :lol:

You lot should have seen the desperation on my face as I slowly typed a comment via my phone on Sunday, to give an opinion (think that's what this place is for I believe) on the sofa, mildly hungover. I was enraged I tell you.

Why would I watch some other random teams and players I don't care about? It has nothing to do with Rooney.

You need to get better at trolling. You suck at this.
 
Am I allowed to say I thought he was alright without disgruntling the mob?:nervous: No in all seriousness I don't think he was too bad, he's a striker and he scored a goal which really is what he's in the team to do. I think it's pointless judging him as a creative force because he isn't one and never will be one. But he worked hard, got a goal and wasn't at all damaging to the side which is fine by me.
Im not sure if him and Ibra will fit long term, but perhaps with Pogba in midfield we will still have plenty of creativity.
Is he a striker or a No. 10? His just b is more than scoring goals. It's also his responsibility to link our midfield and attack and supply balls to Zlatan and Martial in behind.
 
Is he a striker or a No. 10? His just b is more than scoring goals. It's also his responsibility to link our midfield and attack and supply balls to Zlatan and Martial in behind.
He's a striker. Just because he plays a bit behind the striker doesn't mean he's your conventional number ten, the creativity will be coming from Pogba, Mkhy and maybe Martial if Rooney stays in the team.
 
On this claim that Rooney has a clause in his contract that he has to play, I wouldn't believe such a thing exists and the fact that he didn't start against Stoke away last season does suggest he can be dropped however I wonder if it was his choice not to start as it was the busy Christmas period.
 
It's ironic how the one guy that pops up in here accusing others of agendas all of the time is the biggest agenda poster in this thread, it's like Stretford or Colleen got a fecking Red Cafe account.
 
It's ironic how the one guy that pops up in here accusing others of agendas all of the time is the biggest agenda poster in this thread, it's like Stretford or Colleen got a fecking Red Cafe account.

Is it though?

I'm pretty sure it's actually one of this motley crew;

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And I may be wrong but I believe Pogue is the only one of those not totally sickened and repulsed by Rooney's very existence in our squad.
 
And I may be wrong but I believe Pogue is the only one of those not totally sickened and repulsed by Rooney's very existence in our squad.

You're right about Pogue but your list above is irrelevant to what I said.
 
I can see why you would want to think that, being on said list.

I don't come into this thread and with every post accuse other fans of having an agenda while clearly having one myself, so that's not irony, which was what my post was about. I openly have an agenda against Rooney because his performances are shite and unlike some here I care about United, not about individual players, I'm a United fanboy not a player fanboy.
 
And I may be wrong but I believe Pogue is the only one of those not totally sickened and repulsed by Rooney's very existence in our squad.
You're wrong. I can see about three of his backers in there.
 
I don't come into this thread and with every post accuse other fans of having an agenda while clearly having one myself.

It's ironic how the one guy that pops up in here accusing others of agendas all of the time is the biggest agenda poster in this thread, it's like Stretford or Colleen got a fecking Red Cafe account.

Kind of seems like you just did though...
 
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