More that he's stopped relentlessly giving the ball away and looking like he'd never played football before.
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He is remarkable 
Pub player to great in the blink of an eye.
Pub player to great in the blink of an eye.
Imagine what a player in their prime would do.
Will he continue taking the penalties or will Ibra get them?
And so it begins.
until he gets the record cant see anyone having them
like the first half never happened. he actually lost us possession before the pass to Rashford
He had a good game in the 2nd half.
He was garbage but benefited from Rashford being superb when he came on and gifting him a couple of goals. Mou is gonna have to realize quickly that Rooney/Ibra isn't a fit.
Was dogshit, but still got two goals.
Abysmal in the first half but he looked much better in the second half and if he can build on that performance I have no problems with him starting.
Scored goals
It was a question, hence the question mark. You either answer it or dont.
I do think we played better as a team in the second half, though.
The excuses are already lined up. Not enough pace around him. Ibra up front doesn't help him etc etc.
As usual nome of that explains why he can't pass, run or control the ball.
I'm wondering how Mourinho is going to implement both Rooney and Zlatan into a title winning side. As the season goes on I suspect it will start to become obvious it will need to be one or the other, as I can't see the two of them developing any chemistry.
Zlatan doesn't do partnerships. He is a lone striker who is at his best dropping into space with a fully functioning midfield behind him, and Rooney is certainly not a midfielder (sorry Roy/Louis).
Zlatan doesn't do partnerships. He is a lone striker who is at his best dropping into space with a fully functioning midfield behind him, and Rooney is certainly not a midfielder (sorry Roy/Louis).
The fact that he can't turn, turns me off him as a 10. So many attacking moves die because of it and slows every thing down.
Really hope we convert to 4-3-3 once Pogba arrives and phase him out. Constantly killed attacks in the first half.
I don't think he can play with Zlatan. And Zlatan is a better striker. If it's not working, I hope Mourinho doesn't persist.
If you are going to answer why Rooney looked better at least look at what Rooney improved on. Like passing to his team mates now and again.
By sighting external factors like more pace around him you're clearly implying his first half performance wasn't down to him. Rather the lack of options around him.
Two goals, not a bad start under Jose.
Like other Euro participants, looked off the pace though.
Like other Euro participants, looked off the pace though.
You're right. I am implying that. Just want to point out that he wasnt the only one that give it away, but there was a lot more movement in the second half, which surely makes it easy to find a pass, no?
thats why rooney was so good in that second half, rooney, young, carrick and felli been together for three years now. that midfield was in sync while in the first half it was all over the place with rooney, mkh, herrera and morgan.
i like pogba but its going to be some real growing pains with no training camp to familiarize him with the team.
Did anybody say he was the only one who gave it away?
So you're putting his first half performance down to the players around him?
I just answered that question. You should probably start answering some of mine.
I was just clarifying because that's quite a claim. Rooney miscontrols and misplaces passes all over the shop because of those around him.
Obviously it's easier to find a pass if there's more movement. That's a basic rule of football but here is used purely as an excuse. Movement doesn't explain why he couldn't do the basics in the first half and actually that problem continued in the second half. He was just less shit.
Its never his fault don't you know? Today it was Zlatan, next month it will be the position and by the time he gets Jose the sack it will be Jose's fault. Now some are even calling for infractions if anyone dares to criticize his performances.
Needs to work on his corners.
This all started because @Dobbs didn't read my post properly.
Rooney was a lot better in the second half, and I suggested it could be down to better movement, stretch of play by Rashford, thus giving more time on the ball (not always good in tight areas).
If he didn't feel it was, all he had to say was no, like @Art Vandelay did. Notice I didn't quote him once he answered my question.
It wasn't aimed at you in particular but generally since we have read this script from around 2010/11 at least then his bouts of good form lasted longer.
Read your post perfectly. Didn't misrepresent it in anyway. I even asked you to clarify to avoid that. You said and reiterated his first half performance was down to those around him. Crystal clear.
I am happy he's got 2 goals but his overall game seems very poor.
And so it begins.
Great start by Rooney getting the two goals. All round play was sloppy especially first half but he's only just come back and this is his first game so we can't expect instant performance. Very exciting options in this team all of a sudden.
More and more convinced when I see him that he should be used as an impact sub than a starter.
He should be seen as a luxury rather than a necessity given the way he plays. Just stick him on last 15-20 minutes to see if he can get a goal cos he doesnt do much else.
I also dont think the "hes just come back", "its his first game" etc excuse as much merit given what we have watched for the last three and a bit years from him.
He should be seen as a luxury rather than a necessity given the way he plays. Just stick him on last 15-20 minutes to see if he can get a goal cos he doesnt do much else.
I also dont think the "hes just come back", "its his first game" etc excuse as much merit given what we have watched for the last three and a bit years from him.
Deliberate obfuscating I think it's called. I'm not sure why you do it but nonethless it's effective. Anything to distract from the very clear and steep decline Rooney is now suffering from.
Couldn't be clearer.
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If you actually answered my question in the first place, instead of being so sarcastic and arrogant, then I wouldn't have quoted you. As it were....
I know he scored 2 goals but our attacking play looked so much more fluid and composed when he went off and Mata replaced him as the number 10. 
We found it very difficult to create through the middle with him in the team.
We found it very difficult to create through the middle with him in the team.He was the worst player for us in the first half but second half upped his game. Needs to work on the corners though.
Very true - in his 20 mins Mata at least played 3 through passes while Rooney always look for Valencia .I know he scored 2 goals but our attacking play looked so much more fluid and composed when he went off and Mata replaced him as the number 10.
You have to give credit for his finishing though - mata wouldn't have scored that. Rooney is always a slow starter and so I hope he improves
This conversation has got very messy. As I find it usually does in the Rooney thread. There was no sarcasm intended, just debate as far as I'm concerned.
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