Wan-Bissaka for sale | joins West Ham

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This is such a bafflingly dumb sale when we currently have one other fullback in our squad who doesn't spend 75% of the time injured.

It's just very obviously going to lead to big problems next season that will probably cost us games.

If we sell Bissaka we need another left back AND another right back. We won't get both and if we do who are they going to be that won't cost more and be worse?

Well it seems we are signing a guy that can cover both flanks. He's barely ever fit but hey at least he's server under EtH right
 
No idea why we'd want to sell him for a player roughly the same age with an inferior injury record instead of just finding a better possibly cheaper prospect to offer more competition.

You know the answer. EtH. Has the potential to be another Antony level feck up.
 
You know the answer. EtH. Has the potential to be another Antony level feck up.

It really doesn't. Money matters, and dropping 80m or whatever on a player isn't the same as dropping less than 20m on one. Especially when doing the latter lets you actually sell a player who would leave for free at the end of the season anyway.
 
It really doesn't. Money matters, and dropping 80m or whatever on a player isn't the same as dropping less than 20m on one. Especially when doing the latter lets you actually sell a player who would leave for free at the end of the season anyway.

His injury record could leave us extremely short on options so yes it seems a very risky deal.
 
Typical for Bissaka to get injured and we can’t actually sell him

He was fine, wasn't he?

But it was a very stupid decision to play him (and not even sub him) given the stakes. Boggles the mind. And it was an anti-shop-window if anything. Looked sloppy as feck.
 
According to a tweet in the United tweet thread, he is demanding a multi million pound deal if he is to leave United. Wtf? Get the feck out. I switched jobs and decreased my income, but I was fine about it because it was a more rewarding job. Are footballers this full of themselves?
 
According to a tweet in the United tweet thread, he is demanding a multi million pound deal if he is to leave United. Wtf? Get the feck out. I switched jobs and decreased my income, but I was fine about it because it was a more rewarding job. Are footballers this full of themselves?

Sorry, but :lol:
 
According to a tweet in the United tweet thread, he is demanding a multi million pound deal if he is to leave United. Wtf? Get the feck out. I switched jobs and decreased my income, but I was fine about it because it was a more rewarding job. Are footballers this full of themselves?

Did you also decrease your income by multiple millions?
 
According to a tweet in the United tweet thread, he is demanding a multi million pound deal if he is to leave United. Wtf? Get the feck out. I switched jobs and decreased my income, but I was fine about it because it was a more rewarding job. Are footballers this full of themselves?
To be fair, you also likely have the chance to increase your earnings again - I would imagine. That is the most he will ever earn in his entire career, I don't blame him for wanting it if west ham are offering significantly less.
 
Does feel we get taken to the cleaners in this type of situation more than other clubs. No one is paying him more than £90k though, so if he genuinely expects to increase his salary somewhere else, he’s living in cloud cuckoo land.
 
He'd be on a free next year so there's clearly value in that but clubs aren't exactly queuing up for him, just shocked anyone wants to keep him. If he couldn't defend one on one he'd be playing non league football.
 


but we have transfer gurus appointed just for this window

Honestly I call BS on this 'reporting'. AWB is not on high wages, is he? Right below another tweet citing Sky claims West Ham don't expect peronal terms to be a problem..

Watch some of our lovable fans call him a greedy *insert insult* based on this tweet though now.
 
To be fair, you also likely have the chance to increase your earnings again - I would imagine. That is the most he will ever earn in his entire career, I don't blame him for wanting it if west ham are offering significantly less.
What is the point of someone paying to get someone out of their current contract with you if you just have to pay the remaining balance anyway
 
What is the point of someone paying to get someone out of their current contract with you if you just have to pay the remaining balance anyway
Well this only happens if the person leaving is going to get a worse deal than what they're currently on and the employer is pushing you to leave.
 
There was a lot of debates last year about supposedly same issues with Maguire and a potential move to West Ham.

That said I can't imagine the gap in wages would be extra wide. He's allegedly on 90k a week here. Maybe a 1-1,5m£ package if he's on 60-70k over there ? Not inconsequential but surely some deal could be found.
 
There was a lot of debates last year about supposedly same issues with Maguire and a potential move to West Ham.

That said I can't imagine the gap in wages would be extra wide. He's allegedly on 90k a week here. Maybe a 1-1,5m£ package if he's on 60-70k over there ? Not inconsequential but surely some deal could be found.
He may be thinking about the signing-on bonus he would get as a free agent and wants United to compensate him.
 
There was a lot of debates last year about supposedly same issues with Maguire and a potential move to West Ham.

That said I can't imagine the gap in wages would be extra wide. He's allegedly on 90k a week here. Maybe a 1-1,5m£ package if he's on 60-70k over there ? Not inconsequential but surely some deal could be found.
Hopefully INEOS will look at the pay structure and stop the handing out of over the top pay packages.

Apart from the very top superstars, they sell the allure of playing for the white shirt, playing at their famous stadium, chance of winning trophies especially CL then say by the way this is what we are willing to pay you? Not enough? Go elsewhere for the money, or play for us for the trophies.

I think that's what we need to do. We've been incredibly stupid in overpaying rashford, Sancho, Maguire, martial, de gea etc. hopefully it will stop and make it easier to move players on.
 
Honestly I call BS on this 'reporting'. AWB is not on high wages, is he? Right below another tweet citing Sky claims West Ham don't expect peronal terms to be a problem..

Watch some of our lovable fans call him a greedy *insert insult* based on this tweet though now.

70k p/w per sportract. I assume West Ham will give him something like 40-50k tops. A 30k p/w delta for a year = 1.5M. ("Multi-million pound pay-off"). I think this one's a done deal with Mazraoui and De Ligt coming in for us.
 
Hopefully INEOS will look at the pay structure and stop the handing out of over the top pay packages.

Apart from the very top superstars, they sell the allure of playing for the white shirt, playing at their famous stadium, chance of winning trophies especially CL then say by the way this is what we are willing to pay you? Not enough? Go elsewhere for the money, or play for us for the trophies.

I think that's what we need to do. We've been incredibly stupid in overpaying rashford, Sancho, Maguire, martial, de gea etc. hopefully it will stop and make it easier to move players on.

Is that how they played it with Mbappé when they gave him €600,000 a week? Or Bellingham on 400,000?
More amazing is how they convinced Camavinga on a lowly 240,000 a week
 
He may be thinking about the signing-on bonus he would get as a free agent and wants United to compensate him.

I'd call his bluff and tell him I'd let him rot for a year so he can go for free quicker than I'd pay him off to leave. Highly doubt anyone will be willing to pay him what he wants after that.
 
There was a lot of debates last year about supposedly same issues with Maguire and a potential move to West Ham.

That said I can't imagine the gap in wages would be extra wide. He's allegedly on 90k a week here. Maybe a 1-1,5m£ package if he's on 60-70k over there ? Not inconsequential but surely some deal could be found.

IMO, it is more likely to be an issue surrounding a loyalty bonus than wages. To the extent the publicly available data can be trusted (at least as a rough guideline), West Ham have 10 players making 90k per week or more. They won't have an issue matching his wages.

AWB probably is set to receive a bonus of a few million pounds if he sees out his United contract. Understandably, that goes into his financial calculation and so he wants at least some of that bonus paid to him if he agrees to move clubs.
 
IMO, it is more likely to be an issue surrounding a loyalty bonus than wages. To the extent the publicly available data can be trusted (at least as a rough guideline), West Ham have 10 players making 90k per week or more. They won't have an issue matching his wages.

AWB probably is set to receive a bonus of a few million pounds if he sees out his United contract. Understandably, that goes into his financial calculation and so he wants at least some of that bonus paid to him if he agrees to move clubs.
Aren't loyalty bonuses always paid unless the player themselves hand in a transfer request? Even if the player leaves before their contract is up
 
I'd say the good news, if the latest tweets have some truth to them, is that WHU agrees to the general valuation.

Getting 15m£+ for AWB is a fair price, in my opinion.
 
IMO, it is more likely to be an issue surrounding a loyalty bonus than wages. To the extent the publicly available data can be trusted (at least as a rough guideline), West Ham have 10 players making 90k per week or more. They won't have an issue matching his wages.

AWB probably is set to receive a bonus of a few million pounds if he sees out his United contract. Understandably, that goes into his financial calculation and so he wants at least some of that bonus paid to him if he agrees to move clubs.

That's interesting, didn't know such clauses existed. You're right that they have a lot of players making >70k p/w (which is what he's on here reportedly).

https://www.capology.com/club/west-ham/salaries/

I think when it's all said and done we'll net about 15m and that's basically a straight swap for Mazraoui.
 
To be fair, you also likely have the chance to increase your earnings again - I would imagine. That is the most he will ever earn in his entire career, I don't blame him for wanting it if west ham are offering significantly less.
Tbf, he makes more in a year than most will in a lifetime. In no universe do I feel sorry for him.
 
We are trying to selling when he’s near the end of his contract. His agent knows that if he sits him there for a year he will get a significant signing on fee and a decent wage as a free agent. Probably why they are talking about a sign-off fee
 
We cant sell players who are nearing end of their contract, we cant sell players who have years left on their contract either.

Seems like we are always fecked.
 
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