Agreed on this part. I think our major weakness is that we give away the ball too easily sometimes. But it's not just the front four responsible for this. I think a Bruno- Eriksen - Casemiro has too many risk takers for us to really control a game, so we need a midfielder that can also keep the ball. We should be able to get both CM and Striker though and if its a choice between either then a striker is priority. I'd like to see how Joao Felix develops at Chelsea. If his finishing improves then I think he's exactly what we need even though some will disagree that he can't play as a striker
Victor Osimhen | out of options | goes to Gala on loan
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Every time the team plays great so does rashford. When the team or manager is crap then rashford also turns to crap. He isnt streaky, he just cant do it alone.
Well in fairness, I think most teams will struggle a little without their main goalscoring threat. But yes, totally agree. If Rashford got injured for a spell, our season would be over.
For the record, I still want us to sign a CF. Before, I was all for Osimhen because we had nobody banging in the goals. But now we do, so I just see things a little differently. If Weghorst was taking his chances, he would be sharing the scoring burden with Rashford right now.
I guess I find it hard to believe we can't significantly upgrade on Weghorst without splashing hugely on Osimhen. But I can barely name a single player as an alternative.
Who would that be though?
Martial's ability to link up play in tight areas is very rare.
Obviously it's behind in quality, but its UEFA league coefficient is much nearer to Serie A than Serie A is to the Premier League.
Nunez was also banging them in and looking decent in his Champion's League games, which reinforced his reputation.
I’d say just splash big money on Osimhen. He looks like the type of player we need up front, and he is on fire this season. We are going to change owners soon anyway so I guess money wouldn’t be an issue.
Kvaradona from Napoli itself
When you say "need", it's always worth asking the question how many top teams needed a Weghorst type "defensive striker" over the years. Who was Real Madrid's Weghorst when they won three CLs in a row; who was Manchester City's Weghorst when they won four out of the last five Premier League titles?
A top team that aims to compete for the biggest trophies doesn't need to have a Weghorst type "striker" who isn't really a striker.
In the modern days is about system. If the player fits the manager's system or player's aspects are required in the manager's system then it's not about being good enough or no but it's about whether the manager wants striker with Weghorst's profile to his alternative plan like Plan B or Plan C. Hence why I raised this argument whether ten Hag needs Weghorst type of striker as his Plan B or Plan C, while using Osimhen and Rashford as his Plan A. In fact, it doesn't need to be Weghorst but may be the similar profile like the following stats, someone who can do incredible defensive work non-stop. Basically having Osimhen and Rashford in the main XI but has different profile of striker like Weghorst for Plan B or Plan C.
Like I said in another thread, Weghorst is a DS, or a false 6.In the modern days is about system. If the player fits the manager's system or player's aspects are required in the manager's system then it's not about being good enough or no but it's about whether the manager wants striker with Weghorst's profile to his alternative plan like Plan B or Plan C. Hence why I raised this argument whether ten Hag needs Weghorst type of striker as his Plan B or Plan C, while using Osimhen and Rashford as his Plan A. In fact, it doesn't need to be Weghorst but may be the similar profile like the following stats, someone who can do incredible defensive work non-stop. Basically having Osimhen and Rashford in the main XI but has different profile of striker like Weghorst for Plan B or Plan C.
Him and Khvicha are brilliant to watch together.
Whats his all timeCL stats?
What you expect of him and what he has actually done are two different things.
Weird how opinions can vary because Martial is very good at that IMO. We just don't get to see it enough because he's either out of form or injured. He's great with Rashford and Shaw and was great with Pogba too.
Is English not your first language?!
By "very rare" I mean that there are hardly any players out there as good at it as him. It's a rare talent!
Hence why I also asked if anyone could think of any other strikers with such ability - because they're not common and I'm struggling to think of some.
Players being not that good at linking up play in tight areas is obviously more common / less rare.
And now I've had to waste one of my limited posts per day having to clarify what should be this self-explanatory point to you.
Ohhhh no, apologies, I just misread it as saying he does it rarely. Comprehension fail on my part. Glad we're in agreement on that facet of Martial's game.
He probably misread what you wroteProbably a BREXIT Radcliffe fan here!
Always though Jonathan David plays quite similar to him.
I'd be happy, more than happy, to bring him in instead of Osimhen and let Rashy play up top permanately
have Kvaradona, Antony, Sancho and Kudus as our wing options with Rashford up top....Martial to back up Rashford. That would be the best attacking group in world football on one team.
The lad is inevitable, put Napoli up on Frankfurt just now
He’s just incredible off the ball. Unbelievable pace and running power.
He and Rashford together would scare every defence in the world.
We have to get it done.
His and that Georgian fella's price tags will be through the roof after all is said and done.
He's used his pace and strength well today.
Muani also looks a real handful, giving Kim a lot of problems.
Muani also looks a real handful, giving Kim a lot of problems.
He’s going to be ours
Yeah he looks a very interesting player.
Too obvious for us to get him. Only will happen with a change of owners.
Tracking, pondering, observing, analysing, monitoring… the United way
Would be fantastic here
I think you just don't understand what carrying is. It has a specific definition that involves progressing the ball towards goal while running and Antony is objectively good at it whether he eventually loses it (which he seldom does) or whether he turns back as you say. There's value in it because it disrupts the opposition and moves you up the pitch into more valuable areas. You're talking about dribbling/take ons which involves beating your marker which Antony is just about average at since he moved to the EPL.
Bruno to Osimhen would be very similar to KDB Haaland in terms of output if it happened
He's going to be Chelsea's. We can't compete with their spending power, and Napoli will demand some completely insane fee anyway. They don't need to sell him, so it's going to be an Antony & Ajax situation. We need a CM as well. Unfortunate, because he looks world class, if he can stay out of injuries.
If you're a team with a feckload of money and a need for a striker, he should be your first choice this summer. If you can't get him you move on, but you should be trying to get him.
Eats up the ground like Haaland.
What a clown. You react like that and come at me for my "football opinions" when you're spouting shite like this. Thank god you're on limited posts. "Rare talent"
