How exactly would he score as many goals as he does in a completely dominant PSG side against absolute garbage defences? That's not going to happen. He would of course score tons of goals and assists but not as much as he has done for PSG in Ligue 1 over the last seasons.
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How exactly would he score as many goals as he does in a completely dominant PSG side against absolute garbage defences? That's not going to happen. He would of course score tons of goals and assists but not as much as he has done for PSG in Ligue 1 over the last seasons.
Behave. Mbappe was also doing it from the wing for Monaco, both in the league and in the CL.
The reality is Osimhen has 2 years left in the summer. Kvara has 4 years left in the summer.
Makes sense to go all in for Osimhen this summer and monitor the situation on the latter.
Pretty sure he would. He's the best player in the world. Haaland is tapping in just as many as he did in Germany. More actually.
How much would he worth in current market?
Is there a chance we could get him for 150m?
Is there a chance we could get him for 150m?
I think he'll be around that price. Between 130-150M.
Unfortunately I think so too, and it's too steep in my eyes. Rashford at the moment is playing out of his skin and arguable a better player.
I think we still need a CF, and if you asked me 3 months ago I would have said either Osimhen or Kane of course. But if we already have a guy scoring potentially 30+ do we need to break the bank?
Maybe we can risk on a younger prospect and fix the midfield? Can EtH keep Rashford scoring the goals, and get more goals from Sancho, Bruno, Antony and Garnacho? Can we sign an 8 like Bellingham instead who can pitch in?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love if we did sign Kane or Osimhen in the summer, but only for reasonable money and not at the expense of solving our other problems when it seems that a lethal forward is no longer a need currently.
I do get the idea or Rashford off the left and still smashing them in alongside a clinical CF, but I think only Kane can play that role of creator that can still score 30 himself. Osimhen is more of a predator in the Napoli team reliant on Kvaratskhelia supplying the ammunition to him.
I would be surprised if Rashford's form has not at least triggered a rethink for what exactly we need in the summer.
I still feel like we should have gone for him instead of Antony tbh.
Even if not him, even if not a centre forward - but I think we for sure need one more direct threat in the attack, and preferably a ball carrier. Antony isn’t either of those things.
The option of having two players to stretch defences would make us so much mire threatening. Whether that be two wide men like Mane and Salah, or one wide and one central like Saint Maximin and Isak. But this idea of Rashford surrounded by one-paced players limits us. Especially as it makes us so much weaker if Rashford can’t play, or when he meets a Kyle Walker. Adding a secondary runner in Garnacho against City immediately changed the game. I’m not really sure the point of Antony so far tbh.
Antony is an excellent ball carrier.
No he isn’t.
imagine a front three of Rashford, Victor and Antony with Sancho in rotation
For such a young age he is at 85% in progressive carries so you are wrong.
Seems to have ten hags preffered player personality. osimhen would make us a rapid physical team but Kane would make us fluid. Glad the choice is on him. If we get new owners i dont think osimhen would be imPossible to get.
According to Fbref (that use OPTA), he is in the;
93rd percentile for numbers of carries,
90th percentile for number of progressive carries,
96th percentile for number of carries into the final third,
92nd percentile for number of yards carried,
90th percentile for number of progressive yards carried,
Combined with being in 90th and 98th percentile for miscontrols and dispossessed I would argue that it good numbers. Only in the 67th percentile for carries into penalty area though.
The numbers are for attacking midfielders and wingers in the PL. For a 22 year old player in his first season in the PL, with less than 1 000 min, I would argue that is promising.
A bit like Sancho - funnily enough - Antony is a great carrier in the middle third of the pitch. In the final third, it's where your more blitz players like Rashford, Garnacho, and the aforementioned types like Mane, Salah etc. excel.
Perhaps not excellent but he is really good at it. He carries the ball well along the sideline and it's not easy to get the ball off of him and he almost always gets it near the final third before the defenders even try to get the ball from him. If he's not a ball carrier, then who is?
Really impressive but I always have to take the Seri A with a bucket of salt
Totally agree.
Son. Anthony Gordon. Alan Saint Maximan. Alejandro Garnacho. Darwin Nunez.
I've never seen Antony carry the ball 40 yards on a counter attack and not get caught, or voluntarily stop halfway and turn back (probably due to anticipation of getting caught). He's just not good at running with the ball up the pitch. He'll do some sort of roll a few times and then stop, but even uncontested, on the counter and in open space - he somehow still fails to effectively carry the ball forward at speed.
I look at some of our counter attack goals over the years. Like the one Rooney scored away at Arsenal where Nani carried it upfield, or Ronaldo carrying it against Bolton and I can't see Antony playing those roles. He just has no running power. His legs seem to move quickly, but he lacks power and is caught easily from what I see.
Well, if anyone can coach Osimhen to be better at passing like how he coached/coaching AWB to be like Messi yesterday, it would be EtH.
We definitely need a number 9, Rashford is in an amazing form but it's unlikely he'll be able to keep it up. As a team we don't score enough if Rashford gets injured or his form drops we'll struggle, we definitely need a proper number 9. I know it's a lot of money for Osimhen but there aren't many options, I expect the new owners to make an statement and one of the most critical positions is striker position.
Also Bellingham will be around 120M as well. Us paying 100M for Antony and Chelsea paying 100M for Mudryk and 130M for Enzo has changed the market. Any promising youngster will be around that price and consolidated players will be 130-150 at least.
Buy him
We definitely need a striker and midfielder. Osimhen and Bellingham would be my choice but might not be possible for various reasons.
We also need a bit of a clearout of dead wood and players who aren't good enough
If he scored 100 goals from the wing in the CL in 180 games I'd put it ahead of the other records. As it was it was nearly all in ligue in nearly all for psg
Ye it's a wierd one. Like you say, he would do very well. But a wierd blinkered view to say all leagues the same, playing in all teams the same.
A large part of me agrees with you, but I don't think he'll be as good as the money would justify. If Kane was 5 years younger I'd happily watch us pay 200m for him as he improves every other player in the front line and still will get you 30 goals a season. Just imagine that Kane-Rashford link-up play.
I'd be very happy if we signed Osimhen in the summer, even more so if you asked me 3 months ago, but I think my opinion has shifted slightly because the form and goalscoring ability of Rashford post WC has afforded us the ability to maybe think outside the box with who we target in the summer.
I'd love a Suarez-type signing. Relatively under the radar, just on the cusp of breaking out as a top player, and gives us goals and all the other qualities that EtH wants in a striker.
Not asking for too much am I?
Rashford's explosion should make a goalscoring CF much less of a priority. Looking at the way you're set up now, I think you need an upgrade on Weghorst more than anything(well, that and good backups for Case and Rashford). Off the top of my head i can think of Milinkovic-Savic, who basically plays the same role for Lazio as a hybrid attacking midfielder/target man/workhorse. Bellingham is intriguing but not sure he has it to act as a target man
Disagree since Rashford plays mostly off the LW and we need more than 1 20 goal a season player in the starting 11. We have a lack of quality depth in the attacking wide areas too and Martial is a crock.
Martial Weghorst Elanga need replacing in attack.
Then backup for Casemiro and Fernandes or a new no10 (Id take Maddison due to his versatility and he's not too expensive due to contract length).
Weghorst isn't even playing as a target man though. He's pretty useless in the air (but has his other pros). Long term we definitely need a reliable central player, and generally I think we have enough creators in attack and just need reliable scorers. Rashford will always be one, maybe not to this extent but still a good scorer, but another like Osimhen makes sense.
The key is we don't need a pure poacher, we need someone who is well rounded in attack, who can hold up the play etc.
He doesn't though? He's playing as a pure striker right now, which is what he is, playing off of Weghorst
Mmm, Bruno, Sancho and Antony should all be capable of chipping in with 10-15 goals each, and obviously you want Weghorst replacement to hit those numbers as a baseline. Young Dele Alli would have been perfect for it, it's too bad he fell apart
Garnacho, Sancho, Bruno, Antony plus Weghorst replacement sounds pretty good tbh, you'd only really need another CF to backup Rashford as far as forwards go
Who is a player you think has that kind of potential? 9s are really scarce. Not talking about world-class strikers, just good strikers. It's hard to find options out there. Seems the whole 9s being able to contribute with scoring opportunities has result in a lack of proper goal scorers.
Comparing three Rashford league seasons, in per 90 terms and without penalties.
18/19 - 0.39 goals, 0.41 xG
19/20 - 0.37 goals, 0.44 xG
22/23 - 0.65 goals, 0.45 xG
The point being that while Rashford's underlying stats have certainly improved on his last two seasons (which I've excluded for that reason), they're still in line with previous seasons in which he finished on 10 and 11 non-penalty league goals.
In other words you'd be taking a hell of a risk assuming that this explosion of goals that just looks like a return to previous form coupled with a hot streak of overperformance is anything else. Which in turn means you'd be taking a hell of a risk thinking he is going to be a dependable enough source of goals for you not to need another primary goalscorer at centre-forward.
He's played a few games as a pure striker and the majority from LW
Whether players should be chipping in more goals or not. The clear fact is they are not.
We’ll be going again next season on all fronts.
ST: Rashford New backup ?
LW: Sancho Garnacho Rashford
10: Bruno new backup Sancho
RW: Antony Bruno Sancho
Its clearly not enough for challenging in all fronts.
7 players for 4 positions to me is light.
Ah, good point
I agree
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