They could very well win the CL this year
Victor Osimhen | out of options | goes to Gala on loan
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Benzema? Lewandowski? Griezmann? Felix? Kane? Firmino? Hell, even players like Aspas are good at link up and play in tight spaces. I could go on.
Martial is easily at least on a par with Firmino at it.
Lewandowski? Debatable. Where he stands out more is his finishing.
Kane is good at it but better at longer passes; in the penalty box his lack of agility sometimes means he can get crowded out a bit easily.
Griezmann could be one, though it's debatable if he counts as a CF. Joao Felix would be one, but he's even less of a CF.
You're also basically just listing the few best forwards in the world, and none of them aside from maybe Kane or Joao Felix could be signed by Utd, and would cost huge money.
If there are no feasible replacements out there even on a par who'd cost less than about 80mil I'd say that's pretty rare.
I beginning to have my doubts about having Oshimen and Rashford in the same team. Not that there's anything wrong with Oshimen, it's just that I'd not want to have two very direct, linear and explosive players in my team.
I'd rather we have a very technical, intelligent, pacy, clinical finisher at the moment.
I'd rather we have a very technical, intelligent, pacy, clinical finisher at the moment.
I’ve only seen the highlights but he completely missed the ball for the two goals (regular and disallowed) and had a very heavy touch when put through. Shades of Lukaku.
Other than very technical, the attributes you listed are some of Osimhen's strengths. And if not him, then who?
Same here but it's just one match I guess. I was really disappointed with that heavy touch Rashford would definitely make at least a scoring chance out of that. Not only the heavy touch but more importantly he didn't seem to be aware of the defender going at him.
Anyway he scored so that's ok I think.
If we trigger Kim Min Jaes release clause in July - Napoli will absolutely rinse us with the Osimhen fee.
Until you have tested yourself against Craig Dawson, you can’t call yourself a top striker.
Nonsense. He's a great penalty taker and has had a lot of pens. Take away the pens and he's a 55th percentile xG guy. Which is very much not good.
The way he won that penalty yesterday and the going after every ball eclipses any shades of Lukaku... He won similar penalties against Van Dijk and Ter Stegen with smart touches as well... He offers so much more than Lukaku...
Agree he worked hard and is much better but that touch did remind me a bit of that donkey.
So buy Osimhen first, then activate the clause. Nice.
He's basically a faster Weghorst that can score like Rashford. What's not to like?!
Adam hlozek has impressed me recently.
Ivan Toney is a very capable player and a great target man. When will any betting ban start?
If we announce Osimhen at the start of the window I would be ecstatic. I also know this is Manchester United
If we’ve even managed to complete the takeover by July I would be impressed, let alone picking up two top players.
What about FFP? Chelsea does not generate more income than us, probably a lot less.
The long contract loophole is closed, Chelsea can‘t buy Osimhen.
Enzo is on a 8.5 year contract. That is the reason they could get away with it.
You want a 20 year old with 3 Bundesliga goals who is not a regular for Bayer Leverkusen to lead the line for United instead of Osimhen? Or am I mistaken here?
We should buy David from Lille instead as he would be half the price and he has a similar club and international record toOsimhen before he went to Napoli.
Hopefully common sense will prevail and we will not pay a kings ransom for this bloke.
Hopefully common sense will prevail and we will not pay a kings ransom for this bloke.
You're not mistaken. You also haven't watched him. We'll be queuing up for his signature very soon. Why not sign him for peanuts now before you break the bank for him. He's been playing well.
Like I said, Oshimen is an excellent player. He will be a warrior for any team he plays in. If Eth wants to play a possession based style of football and not a counter attacking style, he might need another type of striker who is more of a team player, with good link up play. Oshimen loses the ball frequently and doesn't pass.
Having Rashford and Oshimen in the same side will be an excellent counter attacking side.
If martial was playing at his best and free from injuries I'd choose him over Oshimen.
Well if I see on the news that utd has signed Oshimen tomorrow, I'd be dancing because he'll improve the team.
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For me more shades of Nunez, his pace and aggressive style remind me a lot of him, as well as the fact that he definitely has some technical deficiency in his game. Still a pretty good striker though.
That's exactly what I noticed too. A further study of his goals is needed.......could be the exception rather than the rule.
They paid £70 million for him
David is just one year younger than Osimhen. So him having a similar output now that Osimhen did when he was around 20 isn't an overly promising basis for a comparison.
I get not wanting to pay massive money. But the two alternatives you've named in David and Toney are such obvious downgrades on Osimhen that it's hard to be particularly keen.
If he is worth 100mil now then what would he be worth if he scored 30 goals in the Premier League?
This is my fear too. Liverpool at their peak relied on their wingers for much of their goal threat. When you put in a striker who wants to be doing a lot of the same things as your wingers you nullify their effectiveness. We can already see to some extent that issue with Wout and how he is more effective playing deeper a lot of the time. I know Wout is not an elite striker but I fear that unless we got someone like Kane who is also a very very good playmaker and used to working with an elite winger who scores goals it could be detrimental for Rashford.
€70 million = £61 million , my point still stands you really think they’ll take a loss on a player who’s scored 18 goals already this seasonDo you know the difference between Euros and pounds??
He’s going to cost €100 million if not more
Well Kane has had one 30 league goal season in his career and Spurs were looking for £120m for him nearly two seasons ago when he was 28. Given the price inflation since via players like Nunez, Antony, Mudryk, etc, a 24 year old Kane would probably have around a £150m price tag on him in the current market.
So to answer your question, somewhere between £100-150m most likely, as nationality plays a part in Kane's price within England. Though if anything I may be underestimating.
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I have no problem Napoli asking whatever they want for him but I would not pay that money for a striker from Serie A.€70 million = £61 million , my point still stands you really think they’ll take a loss on a player who’s scored 18 goals already this season
He’s going to cost €100 million if not more
If he was successful in England he would be worth it but that remains to be seen.
Osimhen wouldn’t come under 140-150 million.
Napoli are not an easy team to negotiate and there’s no leeway in his contract.
Napoli are not an easy team to negotiate and there’s no leeway in his contract.
Fair enough.
I suppose when we look at Grealish and Enzo and the money that was involved there then I don't know where it will go.
Still not convinced about him. He scored 2 goals (1 of them was ruled for offside), and in both cases he touched the ball with 2 legs, and could blow both of them. He seems to be fast, agile and powerful, but not sure about his technique.
I prefer Kane myself, too, but I don't agree with Liverpool example. Remember that Klopp didn't buy Salah himself, it was pushed on him. At Dortmund, Klopp forward line is different. Now Mane left, and Klopp has to try to reinvent Liverpool forward line. He can't always get the same profile of player at the same quality to replace Mane or Lewandolski at Dortmund.
Wout should not be used in anything type of discussion as a base for our search of future CF because as a CF WW is out of depth at our level. He's being shoehorned so he can at least use his best attribute. Rashford would score regardless whether WW is on the pitch or not. In the summer, we were looking to purchase a forward with different profile like Arnautovic, Cunha, Morata... in meanwhile Weghorst was on loan to Turkey for first half of the season. WW only came here because Ronaldo left, where the option on the market was too limited for us to be picky.
I don't know where some people have this idea that Osimhen playing CF the same way as Rashford. Osimhen is likened to Drogba because he's handful, assertive. He challenges defenders face to face, body to body. He occupies, screening the defenders with his back to goal, fighting for percentage ball. He can run in behind, run channel because he has pace, and it's part of CF responsibility, but it's not his main focus like Rashford's specialty in off ball movement. Run the channel, run behind is not a hinderance for another player, if the run is well coordinated, where one runner is the decoy for another runner to find favored space. Mourinho always wanted Eto'o at Chelsea to pair with Drogba. Later on he got Eto'o at in Inter and played Eto'o wide, but without a Drogba type of CF. At the same time Chelse's bought Anelka, and Ancelotti used Anelka in similar wide forward tactical profile where Chelsea had the most free goal scoring PL season with quite a few tennis scoreline.
Kane is more tactical flexible because he can play like a play making midfielder, which is useful to switch for more control in midfield at willl
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This thread is active as if we are seriously interested.
Are we?
Are we?
Anyone looking for a striker is interested.
You're right, I haven't watched him. I don't necessarily disagree with you, it's just that I don't think we should rely on a 20 year old to be a consistent goal scorer in the Premier League when we're trying to win the league. Osimhen, Kane or Toney with Hlozek in addition could be an idea.
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If we have gotten to this position in the league without any striker per se and the finals of other competitions. I see no reason why a 20 year old cannot be relied upon or used as a sub, with adequate back up.
There are some reasonable points here - when you look at Man City having signed Haaland, and Liverpool having signed Nunez, although both of them are in theory upgrades for them as goalscoring CFs, their overall effectiveness and goalscoring capacity as teams has not really improved by bringing them in. In some ways they get in the way of other forwards around them and are too selfish in demanding attacks culminate with them.
Osimhen seems fairly similar stylistically to them in being primarily focused on being a finisher, and that can bring its own issues in getting the most out of the other attacking players around him such as Rashford.
You also saw at Utd how having Ronaldo as a targetman (even while he was scoring in his first season back) also reduced the overall effectiveness of the team and some of those around him, especially Fernandes.
Because of this, as others have also suggested, a forward like Kane with more creativity could be a better fit for the side.
Shame there also isn't another version of Martial coming through somewhere as well (and that's not David, he simply doesn't seem good enough).
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