I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Better start now
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I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Better start now
I see you're taking the Lindelof approach to defending.
He is but I'm not sure why. Rio and Vidic were obviously better defenders so I'm not sure what the point it.
Kinda yeah but it's still more on Williams who doesn't pick up his man at the back post.
There probably was an occasion or two but it would be a fairly pointless exercise. Rio and Vidic were obviously better defenders, I'm not sure what your point is really.
This!
This is why I have said it before. He's fine to be our 3rd choice but not the two of our regular ones. He's still good one if the aim is for top 4 or Europa League qualify but if we are aiming higher then we need a better one for starting XI, someone who can do the job for full 90 minutes. This is not the first time Lindelof failed to sense the danger and lose concentration. No distraction, marking no one and but ball watching for one important moment when needed.
Liverpool won the league last season because their defense were solid before lockdown. Many times they struggled to be clinical to score but can secure the win with 1-0, 2-1 or 2-0 (with one last minute goal).
IMO AWB goes forward and loses the ball, Lindelof moves into the RB position to cover the space but gets beaten. Williams at the back post should be more aware of what's behind him.
He is at fault on some level.
You have no idea whatsoever if he was passed on or not, so you're basically arguing against yourself here.
It was deflected.
I don't get why some people need to invent scenarios out of thin air and twist every single one of Lindelöf's actions on the pitch into a negative when the guy clearly shows time and time again that he isn't good enough all on his own.
That they would actually try and defend instead of deciding they cant be bothered and leaving it to their fullback to mark the only striker in the box, alone with no help from them
Enough is enough
Lindelof is not on the level of Rio/Vidic though, who is suggesting that? Again I'm not sure why you are arguing this because no one is arguing against that.
Didn’t see it in live action, If there was 1 it was the tiniest amount and not enough to change the outcome of the cross.
I'm not a fan personally. But that in itself is a decent position
Its basic defending. The point is, imagine our previous CBs doing that. They wouldnt. I said they wouldnt and you responded as if it was wrong
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Once again the hate comes out but name an available better option.
I've watched it a few times, it loops the ball more. Definitely changes the trajectory.
Oh I think all of them was in some way to fault. The degrees in which the blame had been handed out is sorely unbalanced, however.
You shouldn't be double marking a player. You cover the space in front or behind. As there was no threat behind, you cover the space in front, to position yourself to try and cut out the ball to the CF. Lindelof should occupy the space Maguire vacated, so that he's there to stop the low ball and to be in position to defend a near post run. If Lindelof doesn't cover that space, then there's a huge gap for the CF to attack. If AWB doesn't just give up his player for no reason, then we wouldn't be discussing this at all.
You're saying it's basic defending but are using the examples of two of the best defenders the club has ever had.
Bailly
We are in Lindelof thread talking about HIS performance. If you want to deviate from that discussion, draw conclusions out of your arse saying that I am happy with the attack when I never said so, then feel free to do so.
Way more of a loose cannon.
Yep and the problem is he’s the best of a bad bunch for that position.
Im yet to see evidence of your claim. Better start now
Are we really comparing Maguire - Lindelöf with Rio and Vidic to prove a point?
Both Lindelöf AND AWB did nothing right in that situation, but still, we should have scored and that has been the biggest issue last games if wedon't count penalties. We are creating much but don't score enough last games. Score 3 and we would be in the finals
Both Lindelöf AND AWB did nothing right in that situation, but still, we should have scored and that has been the biggest issue last games if wedon't count penalties. We are creating much but don't score enough last games. Score 3 and we would be in the finals
Yeah the whole backline got pulled out of position
I didnt make a claim. I said imagine it. You're the one telling me that something happened, if it happened you can show me
The point is not why we lost the match. People are discussing about the situation of idiotic defending.
I asked before and am asking again, would that second goal be excused if we were ahead by 3 goals?
He should not be starting next season but then again Maguire is not that much better if I am honest.
I didnt say anything happened. I asked you are you saying it didnt happen
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It was actually you who deviated and started to write about how we don’t need Sancho but a new CB. I just replied to that.
It was actually you who deviated and started to write about how we don’t need Sancho but a new CB. I just replied to that.
But our best player while he was on the pitch in the previous game, and sometimes you need a cannon to defend instead of a water pistol with no water in it like Lindelof
We took him off because he was still diving into tackles on a yellow card.
Lindelof needed a run out
So let's get it straight, you're completely happy with the way that second goal was conceded innit?
Because the defenders can do whatever the feck they want if the attackers score 4 goals per match?
Evans is not on Vidic's level. Sorry that's my opinion. Evans is good and so is Lindelof (just to keep this on topic), but neither are a patch on Rio, Vidic or Stam in terms of being that commanding presence in the box.
How do you know it wasn't enough if you didn't see it? Go look at the replay, there's one camera angle that looks straight across from the other side of the pitch and it clearly shows that the deflection changed the trajectory of the cross quite a bit making it go much closer to goal than it would have otherwise.
This is so true - Bailey can be overzealous at times but I like that he plays with commitment, proper no nonsense defender.
He's also very injury prone and can't be relied upon.
Bailey goes across and gets the ball out of touch by hook or by crook. Lindelof jockeys as always and the player has an easy ball into the space he vacates.
Classic Lindelof defending, passive. If I never commit to anything I can never be beaten.
How would have Bailly done ? Genuine question
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