Victor Gyökeres

Crimson King said:
I really don't think it is. I'm not sure he's good enough. Better than what we have now? Definitely. Proven at the top level? No.
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Strikers proven at the top level who are under contract and the club don’t wish to sell don’t go for this price
 
Tarrou said:
Strikers proven at the top level who are under contract and the club don’t wish to sell don’t go for this price
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Why does it need to be a striker? We need elite attackers. I would argue Liverpool don't have an elite striker, but signed very good (Jota, Diaz) to emerging WC players (Salah) to aid their goal output, and all for under £60m. In fact, when they tried to sign a big money striker in Nunez it backfired. And what league did he look shit hot in?

We should not be spending anything over £40m on Gyokeres, in my opinion. I just don't think he's at that top level. If we can't get him for that then we should sign someone old but serviceable to take the pressure off of Højlund. Or, if we're starting to move on from Højlund, then we should sign another emerging talent, but whoever we think is the Yoro of young strikers.

I don't think we'll regret letting Gyokeres go to Arsenal or Liverpool, not in the long term, especially if they splash £60m+ on him. I'd rather we held tight and tried to sign the next Haaland, or preferably the next Kane.

Signing a top striker isn't going to transform this team anyway. There's still too many other positions that need to be improved, or where young talent still needs time to mature.
 
Crimson King said:
Why does it need to be a striker? We need elite attackers. I would argue Liverpool don't have an elite striker, but signed very good (Jota, Diaz) to emerging WC players (Salah) to aid their goal output, and all for under £60m. In fact, when they tried to sign a big money striker in Nunez it backfired. And what league did he look shit hot in?

We should not be spending anything over £40m on Gyokeres, in my opinion. I just don't think he's at that top level. If we can't get him for that then we should sign someone old but serviceable to take the pressure off of Højlund. Or, if we're starting to move on from Højlund, then we should sign another emerging talent, but whoever we think is the Yoro of young strikers.

I don't think we'll regret letting Gyokeres go to Arsenal or Liverpool, not in the long term, especially if they splash £60m+ on him. I'd rather we held tight and tried to sign the next Haaland, or preferably the next Kane.

Signing a top striker isn't going to transform this team anyway. There's still too many other positions that need to be improved, or where young talent still needs time to mature.
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I agree that we do not need to sign Gyokeres. If we sign him in the summer, he will be 27. Then fans will say give him a year to adapt in the PL. Spending anything over £40m for a 27 year old who may need to adapt is silly considering we have so many holes in the squad.

The amount of scouts we have, how can we not find players that suit us? Why does it always have to be players that are well known to everyone, what is the purpose of a scouting team?
 
Crimson King said:
Why does it need to be a striker? We need elite attackers. I would argue Liverpool don't have an elite striker, but signed very good (Jota, Diaz) to emerging WC players (Salah) to aid their goal output, and all for under £60m. In fact, when they tried to sign a big money striker in Nunez it backfired. And what league did he look shit hot in?

We should not be spending anything over £40m on Gyokeres, in my opinion. I just don't think he's at that top level. If we can't get him for that then we should sign someone old but serviceable to take the pressure off of Højlund. Or, if we're starting to move on from Højlund, then we should sign another emerging talent, but whoever we think is the Yoro of young strikers.

I don't think we'll regret letting Gyokeres go to Arsenal or Liverpool, not in the long term, especially if they splash £60m+ on him. I'd rather we held tight and tried to sign the next Haaland, or preferably the next Kane.

Signing a top striker isn't going to transform this team anyway. There's still too many other positions that need to be improved, or where young talent still needs time to mature.
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United have the right band now of expierenced and young players like Garnacho, Diallo, Mainoo, Yoro, Ugarte, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Collyer .De Ligt and martinez only 25 as well. Our team is very young. We 100% need a proper striker as soon as possible to help these players and not another project like Hojlund who is not good enough to lead the line and be mid table again next season. We desperatly need an established striker, a left wing back and another CM to help Ugarte and Mainoo. A established attacking midfielder alongside Bruno be nice as well.
 
honirelandboy said:
United have the right band now of expierenced and young players like Garnacho, Diallo, Mainoo, Yoro, Ugarte, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Collyer .De Ligt and martinez only 25 as well. Our team is very young. We 100% need a proper striker as soon as possible to help these players and not another project like Hojlund who is not good enough to lead the line. We desperatly need an established striker, a left wing back and another CM to help Ugarte and Mainoo.
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I'm not disagreeing with that, I think the lack of an established striker has probably held back Højlund's development.

I just think if money's tight we need to be careful with how we spend it, and that some of the fans here need to temper their expectations on Gyokeres if he does arrive to be that player. For the right price then it might be worth it, but I still think he'll end up being a stop gap.
 
Crimson King said:
I really don't think it is. I'm not sure he's good enough. Better than what we have now? Definitely. Proven at the top level? No.
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Can you please point me to a priven at the top level available attacker and most importantly with a reasonable price tag?
 
TheGame said:
Jonathan David is a good shot, contract expiring at the end of the season.
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Don’t think he’s the right type of profile we should be signing. We need a physical front man. Gyokeres is like Haaland with his physique.
 
TheGame said:
David is more physical than Gyokeres! He's got pace, strength and is great in the air. Been consistent for Lille for a while now.
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Can’t say I’ve seen much of David play to be fair. But I’ve seen Gyokeres and he’s a monster
 
Crimson King said:
Why does it need to be a striker? We need elite attackers. I would argue Liverpool don't have an elite striker, but signed very good (Jota, Diaz) to emerging WC players (Salah) to aid their goal output, and all for under £60m. In fact, when they tried to sign a big money striker in Nunez it backfired. And what league did he look shit hot in?

We should not be spending anything over £40m on Gyokeres, in my opinion. I just don't think he's at that top level. If we can't get him for that then we should sign someone old but serviceable to take the pressure off of Højlund. Or, if we're starting to move on from Højlund, then we should sign another emerging talent, but whoever we think is the Yoro of young strikers.

I don't think we'll regret letting Gyokeres go to Arsenal or Liverpool, not in the long term, especially if they splash £60m+ on him. I'd rather we held tight and tried to sign the next Haaland, or preferably the next Kane.

Signing a top striker isn't going to transform this team anyway. There's still too many other positions that need to be improved, or where young talent still needs time to mature.
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Nobody said the thing you’re arguing against here

I replied saying I think the price is good. Someone else disagreed. That’s the full extent of the conversation.

By the way, I do agree with your point
 
Are we the only club that only goes after players in our managers previous team?

Seems to be the case these days. I hope to feck we aren’t going to splurge another 70m. Just feels like lazy scouting.
 
No one better out there right now. Sesko is another one "for the future", and Osimhen is overrated and overpriced.

Gyokeres is ready to slot in Amorim's system as well. For 70 million euro, no brainer.
 
TheGame said:
David is more physical than Gyokeres! He's got pace, strength and is great in the air. Been consistent for Lille for a while now.
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Oh god, not Jonathan David again. every season he comes up like Gaitan, and every season he's always playing for some schmuck average club. The man ain't good enough, he'll never be good enough. He's exactly at the kind of club he should be.

That no genuine top team ever considers him a transfer target tells you all you need to know about his limitations.

Let's move on.
 
DJ_21 said:
Can’t say I’ve seen much of David play to be fair. But I’ve seen Gyokeres and he’s a monster
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David won't work as a striker. He is not very good with his back to the goal. He is a Lacazette type of player.
 
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