Vardy/Kane to replace Rooney in the summer?

Well we need a number 10, not number 9. Who are the best young number 10s in the world?

Louis van Gaal likes a player who is creative but also is more like a second striker than third midfielder.
 
We should be all over Kane like a rash.

I'm quite confident we will be in for him in the summer and will get our man, albeit at a very high price.
 
Tonight was the sort of game Kane would get a goal out of nothing from. Get him in the summer, him and Martial would be fantastic.
 
Why Kane? What would happen to Rooney? I'm assuming you people don't want Martial to be dropped for Kane.
 
Eila said:
Why Kane? What would happen to Rooney? I'm assuming you people don't want Martial to be dropped for Kane.
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Rooney can be phased out ala what Liverpool did with Gerrard.
 
It would be interesting to see how many would prefer Kane over Lukaku or the other way around. I personally wouldn't swap Rom for Kane.
 
BigDunc9 said:
It would be interesting to see how many would prefer Kane over Lukaku or the other way around. I personally wouldn't swap Rom for Kane.
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That's an interesting topic. I'd take Kane, personally, because he's English and his agent isn't Raiola. When it comes to being the better footballer though, I'd find it very hard to pick one over the other, at the moment.
 
Scarecrow said:
That's an interesting topic. I'd take Kane, personally, because he's English and his agent isn't Raiola. When it comes to being the better footballer though, I'd find it very hard to pick one over the other, at the moment.
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I wouldn't. Kane is by far the better footballer and considerably more versatile in my view. Kane could easily operate as either a 9 or a 10, whereas Lukaku is clearly a centre forward. Albeit a very dangerous one.
 
apotheosis said:
I wouldn't. Kane is by far the better footballer and considerably more versatile in my view. Kane could easily operate as either a 9 or a 10, whereas Lukaku is clearly a centre forward. Albeit a very dangerous one.
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I'd say that you could also operate Lukaku in a wide forward position. Kane isn't by far a better footballer either.

Lukaku has been excellent this year in his overall game, vastly improving his hold up play and first touch and has 4 assists in the league to Kanes 0. Interestingly both have a shots on target ratio of 45%, however, Lukaku has had 9 less shots and has scored 1 more goal in the league with 9 in comparison to Kanes 8*. Aye, stats aren't everything but to say Kane is a far better footballer would be wrong, it's arguable either way at this point.

*Taken from ESPN which have been reliable in the past.
 
SilentWitness said:
I'd say that you could also operate Lukaku in a wide forward position. Kane isn't by far a better footballer either.

Lukaku has been excellent this year in his overall game, vastly improving his hold up play and first touch and has 4 assists in the league to Kanes 0. Interestingly both have a shots on target ratio of 45%, however, Lukaku has had 9 less shots and has scored 1 more goal in the league with 9 in comparison to Kanes 8*. Aye, stats aren't everything but to say Kane is a far better footballer would be wrong, it's arguable either way at this point.

*Taken from ESPN which have been reliable in the past.
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Indeed. Last year I'd have agreed that Kane is better overall but it's true that Lukaku has improved a lot in his game this season. It's very close for me.
 
BigDunc9 said:
It would be interesting to see how many would prefer Kane over Lukaku or the other way around. I personally wouldn't swap Rom for Kane.
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Nor I. I think Lukaku is a fair bit better.
 
BigDunc9 said:
If Dwelbz thinks that then it must be true as he he doesn't hold back on Everton players. ;)
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Lukaku has definitely stepped his game up a lot recently. If his all-round games stays to this standard I will become a big fan. Still not convinced on Stones or Barkley just yet, though.
 
BigDunc9 said:
It would be interesting to see how many would prefer Kane over Lukaku or the other way around. I personally wouldn't swap Rom for Kane.
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I'm tempted to say Kane as a footballer as of right now because I think Kane on a bad day is still a solid 7 while Lukaku is more of a 5 or a 6. On a good day, both can tear teams apart.

But long-term, I sort of expect Kane to be a Benzema type who goes 1 in 2 with fine playmaking ability for a 9, while Lukaku has the better chance to be that rare and title-deciding 9 who can get 25 or more goals in multiple league seasons. Shearer's best goalscoring years were from 22-27 and I could see Lukaku being the 4 in 5 type scorer he's been this season so far and Shearer was during that period. So,

So, it may depend on the setup like debating if you'd want Lewandowski or Aguero. You'd need to see who the wingers and manager were to pick one (let's disregard health as an issue) for a game, right?
 
I'd take Kane over Vardy.
It'd be a hard pick between Lukaku and Kane, guess i'd be satisfied with either since we already have Martial.
 
DWelbz19 said:
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Lukaku has definitely stepped his game up a lot recently. If his all-round games stays to this standard I will become a big fan. Still not convinced on Stones or Barkley just yet, though.
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Lukaku all round play has become very good indeed. I think he has the attitude to keep improving aswell, from what I have read he is determined to be the best he can be. Stones is special and will be one of the best in world in his position when he reaches his peak I'm sure of it. Barkley the doubt is still there. He should atleast be a very good player but has he got it in him to be one of the best in his position? It would be a gamble to sign him for the fee we would demand because he is sort of player whose style you would have to build the team around and is he worth the hassle? He could be capable but its very much in the air.
 
BigDunc9 said:
It would be interesting to see how many would prefer Kane over Lukaku or the other way around. I personally wouldn't swap Rom for Kane.
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Lukaku has been very impressive this season but I still rate Kane higher due to his overall play, him being English would also be in his favor if I had to choose one of them for United. They are both however 2 of the most promising strikers in their age group.
 
Lukaku has improved a lot this season in terms of his consistency, too many times he played timidly over the last couple of seasons IMO, only now and then making full use of his psychical attributes and bullying defenses. His touch and link up play has also been noticeably better this season.
 
Kane is the real deal in my opinion, Lukaku is a bit Benteke like in that I'd bracket him short of top class. Vardy has a nuisance value but I won't be surprised if he goes ten or twelve games without a goal once this run ends.

I'm struggling to see how we might land Kane though. Our only hope will be financial because only a madman would swap the swashbuckling football Spurs play to come and play under van Gaal.
 
dogwithabone said:
Kane is the real deal in my opinion, Lukaku is a bit Benteke like in that I'd bracket him short of top class. Vardy has a nuisance value but I won't be surprised if he goes ten or twelve games without a goal once this run ends.

I'm struggling to see how we might land Kane though. Our only hope will be financial because only a madman would swap the swashbuckling football Spurs play to come and play under van Gaal.
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Financial is the only one that matters.

He would earn three times what Spurs could pay him.
 
KingMinger22 said:
Financial is the only one that matters.

He would earn three times what Spurs could pay him.
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First, he wouldn't earn 3 times as much. Spurs could easily pay him 80k if they needed to ... I doubt Utd would offer Kane 240k per week as a 22 year-old new arrival.

Second, finance is not the only thing that matters. Levy can - and would - simply refuse all offers from United, not least because Kane is under a long contract and Spurs don't need the money. And I doubt very much that Kane would kick up a fuss about wanting to leave.

Kane to United simply won't happen.
 
GlastonSpur said:
First, he wouldn't earn 3 times as much. Spurs could easily pay him 80k if they needed to ... I doubt Utd would offer Kane 240k per week as a 22 year-old new arrival.

Second, finance is not the only thing that matters. Levy can - and would - simply refuse all offers from United, not least because Kane is under a long contract and Spurs don't need the money. And I doubt very much that Kane would kick up a fuss about wanting to leave.

Kane to United simply won't happen.
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I wouldn't be surprised if United offered him at the absolutely bare minimum £150k/pw. His own sponsorship deals would skyrocket similar.

I think it will happen. Possibly for a new record fee.
 
Kane, Lukaku and Vard, sign them all and let LvG introduce them to his "philosophy".
 
SilentWitness said:
I'd say that you could also operate Lukaku in a wide forward position. Kane isn't by far a better footballer either.

Lukaku has been excellent this year in his overall game, vastly improving his hold up play and first touch and has 4 assists in the league to Kanes 0. Interestingly both have a shots on target ratio of 45%, however, Lukaku has had 9 less shots and has scored 1 more goal in the league with 9 in comparison to Kanes 8*. Aye, stats aren't everything but to say Kane is a far better footballer would be wrong, it's arguable either way at this point.

*Taken from ESPN which have been reliable in the past.
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I can't disagree with your research but personally i place little stock upon it's relevance. These stats indicate something over a definitive period of time, but differing circumstances and situations make it unreasonable for me to view them as conclusive of anything. As a quick example, comparing stats between Paul Scholes and Frank Lampard would probably see Lamps come out on top. Which in my view, would give a misleading, if not completely false impression of who is the better footballer. I know who i would rather have in my team.

So call me old fashioned, but i much prefer to base my views upon what i see with my own eyes whilst watching football matches. In my view Kane is a far better footballer, which is why he can operate as a 10 and Lukaku cannot. He doesn't have the footballing brain of Kane and that's what clearly sets the two apart for me.

If i was asked who i would prefer playing solely as a 09, then i would pick Lukaku.
 
GlastonSpur said:
First, he wouldn't earn 3 times as much. Spurs could easily pay him 80k if they needed to ... I doubt Utd would offer Kane 240k per week as a 22 year-old new arrival.

Second, finance is not the only thing that matters. Levy can - and would - simply refuse all offers from United, not least because Kane is under a long contract and Spurs don't need the money. And I doubt very much that Kane would kick up a fuss about wanting to leave.

Kane to United simply won't happen.
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Don't be so stingy, what if we throw in Rooney? :angel:
 
One things is for sure, the only chance of Spurs keeping Kane in the medium term is if they absolutely smash their wage structure.

The idea they will keep him happy on £80k when the going rate for a player like him is £150m plus, is laughable.
 
As obnoxious as Glaston's routine is I think he's likely right on this one, Levy is a nightmare to deal with and I think Kane could well have a case of Sheareritis.
 
Devil may care said:
As obnoxious as Glaston's routine is I think he's likely right on this one, Levy is a nightmare to deal with and I think Kane could well have a case of Sheareritis.
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The Shearer situation would never happen in 2015 because of the huge financial gulf that exists today between clubs like United and Newcastle, Spurs, etc.

Kane would likely be retiring with a third of the wealth he would earn at United over the course of his career. No one would do that.
 
Kane's sponsorship income would skyrocket if he were a United player. We wouldn't need to pay him triple the salary for him to earn three times what he gets now.
 
Dante said:
Kane's sponsorship income would skyrocket if he were a United player. We wouldn't need to pay him triple the salary for him to earn three times what he gets now.
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Perhaps 3 times what he gets now, but not 3 times what he'd be getting when a renewed contract is eventually offered.

But again you're proposing a United transfer strategy with central elements that haven't worked well for a few seasons now: waste time pursuing the unobtainable (because Levy won't sell and Kane won't kick up a fuss) and believe that your problems can be solved simply by throwing money at them.

Instead you should focus more on identifying and signing up and coming players who are obtainable - Embolo for example.
 
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Lewis.no.9 said:
Both really do look dangerous, especially Vardy right now who really does terrorise defences. He works his socks off and makes things happen. Similar to how Suarez scored so many at Liverpool. A total pest that just makes things happens.

Rooney does seem finished as a top player especially a Man Utd player and at the end of this season, would anyone accept Kane or Vardy as Rooney's replacement?
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don't want either. Better options exist out there at better prices
 
Kane and Martial could be one hell of a strike partnership. But keeping in mind that most managers prefer playing just one up top we might just be better off signing a top class number 10 instead with Martial hopefully developing into one of the world's best.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Kane and Martial could be one hell of a strike partnership. But keeping in mind that most managers prefer playing just one up top we might just be better off signing a top class number 10 instead with Martial hopefully developing into one of the world's best.
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Agree with this.

Although, Kane and Martial (assuming that both develop as well as expected) would completely terrorize the league and win many league titles (assuming that they have a good platform behind of them). On Champions though, it won't be very easy playing with two strikers, though there are clubs which have won it that way.

Offer 60m to Spurs, and 150k to Kane, I would say. If Spurs don't get UCL again, I can see Kane pushing for a transfer, regardless of the wise Glaston objections.
 
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