Vardy/Kane to replace Rooney in the summer?

RedRonaldo said:
Despite all the goals he scored in one season (or should I say half), somehow I am still not convinced by his performance or potential.
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Hes a typical English striker. Powerful, quick with a bit of skill and a good shot. He scored a bunch of goals when he appeared and after a few months defences worked him out and he'll never get close to those early performances again.

Its no coincidence his 'comeback' was against a newly promoted team that had not faced him before.
 
11101 said:
Hes a typical English striker. Powerful, quick with a bit of skill and a good shot. He scored a bunch of goals when he appeared and after a few months defences worked him out and he'll never get close to those early performances again.

Its no coincidence his 'comeback' was against a newly promoted team that had not faced him before.
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Not sure that's entirely fair, he definitely possesses guile, intelligence and vision too. Capable of playing off the front which wasn't the case with people like Defoe, Bent etc.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Sorry but have to disagree. he's playing ok this season but not on the same level as last season and Spurs I don't think are a shit team, they are pretty much the same team from last year. Looking outside the usual top 4 suspects, Spurs are probably one of the next best teams to be in. Using his 4 goals this season is a silly way to debate as 3 of those came against Bournemouth, who have been shipping goals for fun as of late.

Dont get me wrong, I think Kane is a good player and age is on his side, but he's not going to be worth the kind of money Levy would charge and I would want United to pay the inevitable big bucks only if he carries his form for another season or two.
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Watch him score for fun from now, They have got Erricksen back and that's a huge boost, Dier got used to DM position so is Alli accomodated in the middle of the park. Lloris is back to the team and Lamela is hitting some sort of form. Before it was a rotation with quite average Chadli. They lacked any sort of drive, now the situation is much better. Kane will start scoring more goals. And Kane has been good so far, he offered more or less the same service as last year just without goals and with settling team who couldn't kick on, he will still fight Vardy and injury prone Aguero for Golden boot this season IMO again..
 
RedRonaldo said:
I watched every week but I am just not so sure. Decent and young yes, but I don't understand all these hype yet.
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we will see, I think we need to wait on this one as Spurs kicked on only lately, before they looked solid defensively now after a return of Erricksen, Dier - Alli clicked together and Lamela looking promising again, also Rose on the left is better attacking force than Davies.. after all this the team is looking much better and Kane will certainly benefit from this..

I only don't understand while some people could already say something like he's one season wonder. As I said the team was settling down and Kane didn't had any time to rest, going to Euros.. he will come good again. If he's worth the money? well it depends on what they ask for but we will see after the season if he!s 50m player or rather 30m player.. still very young no9 who has many better seasons ahead of him..
 
m1y2 said:
we will see, I think we need to wait on this one as Spurs kicked on only lately, before they looked solid defensively now after a return of Erricksen, Dier - Alli clicked together and Lamela looking promising again, also Rose on the left is better attacking force than Davies.. after all this the team is looking much better and Kane will certainly benefit from this..

I only don't understand while some people could already say something like he's one season wonder. As I said the team was settling down and Kane didn't had any time to rest, going to Euros.. he will come good again. If he's worth the money? well it depends on what they ask for but we will see after the season if he!s 50m player or rather 30m player.. still very young no9 who has many better seasons ahead of him..
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Well if his price is 50m I'd rather wait for another season to assess more at least. If it's 30m I may take the risk and go for it. I won't say he is one season wonder or will be a world beater just for now, as I can't properly assess given the short period time and his "typical" style of play. From what I have seen so far, he doesn't exceed in any area that would leave my jaw wide open yet. But his goalscoring form has been outstanding for a while and he is young and does look decent overall, that's what I know.
 
Kane fair enough, but how Vardy can even be in the reckoning as a potential United purchase baffles me.

He's just one of those average Joe strikers that's suddenly found himself in the best form of his life (fair play to him), but to say he is anywhere near United quality - granted, that's not much when we play Rooney IP front - is laughable. He's at his level.

Plus he's a proper knob.
 
Vardy? By the looks of it, come end of the season caftards will be begging for Darren Bent if that means the end of Rooney.
 
Horrible options. We should be buying the best available striker in the world, not the English flavor of the moment.
 
I think we should buy them both if they are available cheap.

But they wont be.
 
Not going to turn my nose up at them when we have Rooney starting every match. I have a belief that most strikers are only as good as the service they receive, but i'm fairly sure both Vardy and Kane can offer more than what Rooney is doing.
 
Haven't watch Vardy enough to judge, but Kane would definitely be worth a punt. Of course, there's the Levy levy, so he'll be overpriced, so I'd rather go Continental.
 
RU Devil said:
Haven't watch Vardy enough to judge, but Kane would definitely be worth a punt. Of course, there's the Levy levy, so he'll be overpriced, so I'd rather go Continental.
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With the Euro falling by the day, and Continental teams mostly having release clauses, one could get a gem for half the price of Kane. We need to stop being mugged by that bald cnut.
 
SoCross said:
We will need to get a striker in at some point though. Can't just have Martial & Wilson.

Someone capable of playing across all four front positions would be ideal.
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If we sign someone expensive to play RW and Rooney does leave, I could see us just trying another Chicharito/Diouf style signing of a hungry young goalscorer from a smaller league to compete with Wilson, or an Ings-style free if one of those pops up.
 
I haven't seen a lot of him and obviously we are not buying him but just interested what people think:

As an option off the bench, Vardy or Chicharito? Who's all around game is better?
 
Neither i wouldnt think.

I dont see Kane as a 10, and Martial has 9 written all over him for the future, so Striker would either be established World class or solid backup for Martial.

Why buy Vardy when you already have Martial.
 
If we are to return to the general four striker scenario then sign them both. We've got plenty of average players who Leicester would take as part of a deal. Martial, Kane, Vardy and a blossoming Wilson would be a fantastic array of strikers. Vardy, age wise, wouldn't be for the long haul but he'd crawl on his hands and knees here to add Manchester United to his career CV.
 
Martial should replace Rooney. Then we should invest in a second striker/goalscoring no.10.
 
If scum of the earth Vardy ever pulls on a United shirt at OT, I will personally find and horrifically murder everyone remotely responsible
 
Are people actually serious about Vardy? Thought it was a p!ss take due to Rooney's form.
 
Vardy is having a season like Lambart, Kevin Philips and Dean Ashton. Let's not get carried away. I would take Kane however. He has youth on his side and if he bangs in a few more it'll show he ain't no one season wonder.
 
I'd take neither. Vardy isn't good enough and Kane would cost too much given that we already have an outstanding young striker. Maybe we could buy a back up forward at the level of Bony but that's it imo.

Our priority should be wingers imo. Maybe get a new playmaker to play at 10, basically what ADM was supposed to be.

Martial
Memphis --- Playmaker --- Winger
Schweinsteiger/Herrera --- Schneiderlin
Shaw --- Smalling --- CB --- Darmian
DDG​
 
Vardy would be a cult hero at OT, but no, we shouldn't even be thinking about him as a possible Rooney replacement (he's not a 10 anyway). We need to be thinking about a player like Greizmann, who would provide us exactly what we're lacking right now.

I like Kane and last season I was in the "buy Kane for 40m" camp, but with Martial on board now I don't see the need for another 9 who would expect to start every match. But is Kane class? Absolutely.

We need to let Rooney go at the end of this season. Replacing Rooney should be our primary focus and not replacing our young wingers -- Memphis, Lingard and Pereira, unless we've gone mad and have given up on them already.
 
I'll be very surprised if we are not in for Kane in the next few seasons, strikes me as a United player and him and Martial could compliment each other quite well I think.
 
DanNistelrooy said:
I'll be very surprised if we are not in for Kane in the next few seasons, strikes me as a United player and him and Martial could compliment each other quite well I think.
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But how are you saying we will play 2 up front as they would hardly match a worldey at number 10? Too similar for me.
 
Spock said:
We need to let Rooney go at the end of this season. .
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I don't think it's that easy
He has a contract worth about £45m in wages over the next three years... He and his agent would want that money or at least the difference between any new contract he signed elsewhere and his existing contract.
It could cost us over £30m to let him go!
Not to say we won't buy a new forward but I think it will be in addition to Rooney staying as his contract is simply too good to make a move financially viable.
 
sun_tzu said:
I don't think it's that easy
He has a contract worth about £45m in wages over the next three years... He and his agent would want that money or at least the difference between any new contract he signed elsewhere and his existing contract.
It could cost us over £30m to let him go!
Not to say we won't buy a new forward but I think it will be in addition to Rooney staying as his contract is simply too good to make a move financially viable.
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Possibly, but what if he has a totally shite season and is stripped of the captaincy and benched over next summer? Would he want to stay at any price because of his wages rather than play? Granted the squad doesn't riot, if the popularity rumors are true.
 
sun_tzu said:
I don't think it's that easy
He has a contract worth about £45m in wages over the next three years... He and his agent would want that money or at least the difference between any new contract he signed elsewhere and his existing contract.
It could cost us over £30m to let him go!
Not to say we won't buy a new forward but I think it will be in addition to Rooney staying as his contract is simply too good to make a move financially viable.
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It's definitely not going to be an easy task to let go of Rooney, but how much does the 45m we would still owe him after the end of this season stack up against the cost of continuing to play him every week for the next three seasons?

Given United's revenue projections, 45m over another three seasons is just not a massive amount of cash. And it's not as though it would all be payable at once were we to put him "on waivers", as Americans do. At worst, we'd still pay him 300k/week until his contract runs out. Not change under the sofa, but a manageable amount to sacrifice in order to allow United to challenge for a league and Champions League trophy, which, if successful, would more than pay for Rooney's three season pension payments.

If Rooney's poor form persists through the end of the season we can't afford to keep playing him. Whatever it takes, we need to deal with this problem.
 
Spock said:
It's definitely not going to be an easy task to let go of Rooney, but how much does the 45m we would still owe him after the end of this season stack up against the cost of continuing to play him every week for the next three seasons?

Given United's revenue projections, 45m over another three seasons is just not a massive amount of cash. And it's not as though it would all be payable at once were we to put him "on waivers", as Americans do. At worst, we'd still pay him 300k/week until his contract runs out. Not change under the sofa, but a manageable amount to sacrifice in order to allow United to challenge for a league and Champions League trophy, which, if successful, would more than pay for Rooney's three season pension payments.

If Rooney's poor form persists through the end of the season we can't afford to keep playing him. Whatever it takes, we need to deal with this problem.
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Sorry mate but thats just complete nuts! No way a business as well run as MUFC would ever do that.
 
Kane's a good striker, although he'll never be truly extraordinary.

Vardy's just a shit footballer in a freakish run of form. It's never a good sign when a player scores all his goals through pure hunger and nothing else - if he loses five percent of that his game goes to shit because he's got nothing in terms of technical ability, guile or skill.
 
sammsky1 said:
Sorry mate but thats just complete nuts! No way a business as well run as MUFC would ever do that.
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This is the same business that signed the wholly inadequate Moyes to a 7 year contract (and yet fired him after 10 months), bought Fellaini and signed Rooney to a 5 year contract extension for a sum that would make even Donald Trump rub his eyes in amazement. Complete nuts indeed!

We've got a problem on our hands, which is this ridiculous contract we have Rooney on. Unless we find a club who's willing to take on his contract every one of our options is ugly.
 
Jamie Vardy denied chance of impressing Real Madrid and Barcelona scouts during friendly in Alicante due to groin problem
  • La Liga giants Real Madrid and Barcelona are keeping tabs on Jamie Vardy
  • Both clubs were keen on scouting Vardy during Spain vs England match
  • Leicester striker Vardy will miss Friday's clash with a minor groin problem
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...a-scouts-friendly-Alicante-groin-problem.html
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Oh dear, it's beginning to look like we may have missed the boat with Vardy if this Daily Mail article is correct.
 
Angelinho said:
Jamie Vardy denied chance of impressing Real Madrid and Barcelona scouts during friendly in Alicante due to groin problem

Oh dear, it's beginning to look like we may have missed the boat with Vardy if this Daily Mail article is correct.
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Good.
 
Its this kind of stuff that leads to buying the likes of andy carroll for 35m, people need to stop getting carried away when a player has a run of good form.
 
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