The press will moan about no VAR, for the rest of the next week. When they should be questioning how the assistant could see that.
Went in our favor though so
Went in our favor though so
VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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I would agree if it was just occasional mistakes.
The referees are barely fit for purpose with VAR, nevermind without it. The standard is shockingly poor at the minute.
Why is it a bizarre take? The reason VAR is deemed so badly is poor implementation and over analysis by the media. I think people forget just how bad it was before AND the cries for VAR.
It’s a bizarre take because we just got to enjoy an injury time winner in the moment it happened. The most elemental pleasure in watching a football match and it’s an absolute disgrace how rarely it happens. If we’d had VAR tonight it would have ruined that moment, whether the goal was allowed or not.
It's why I'm still for VAR, despite all the controversy. This decision went our way so most of our fans won't care. But if Havertz scored his sitter after controlling the ball with his hand or if Odegaard scored from that penalty, we'd be rightfully pissed.
Use of VAR should be better, but no VAR would mean so many more mistakes from English referees.
Use of VAR should be better, but no VAR would mean so many more mistakes from English referees.
We’re going to pay for that offside goal for the rest of the season now. That’s the media’s talking point sorted for the next month.
I've obviously no way of proving it but I actually think the standard of on pitch officiating has worsened since the introduction of VAR. It's just a personal preference but I'd take an increase in mistakes for an increase in spontaneity and a decrease in standing about twiddling the thumbs.
We’ve been pissed off umpteen times this season in games which featured VAR. The idea that VAR somehow prevents fans from being pissed off about officials and their decisions is the biggest myth in football right now.
100%. And it stands to reason that VAR has made onfield officiating worse. They know that VAR will pick the bones out of any big decisions so are much more likely to lack the courage of their convictions.
Think most of the fans are pissed with VAR. Just saying it would've been even worse without it. VAR will be useless sometimes, but useful the other times. That's still better than relying solely on refs and onfield decisions.
Don't think it's the most elemental pleasure watching a football match at all. I would have enjoyed it far more if we played them off the park 5-0 than celebrating a non-goal that should have never counted.
We won.. great but the manner of winning is important too. If anything it's relief but I hardly see Amorim throwing a party too..
There’s a paradox with it now.
On field ref: “I’m not going to call that foul, VAR will overrule me if I’m wrong”
VAR referee: “Looks like a foul to me but it’s not stone wall, referees call”
He’s onside anyway.
Yeah, Rasmus was playing him on.
Yeah, very true.
That was the same lino who overturned a throw in he gave to us because the Leicester player complained to him about it about 15 minutes before. Absolutely terrible linesmen.
I think it’s tighter than the angle suggests (genuinely think people don’t understand we aren’t looking straight down the line from the TV point of view). But he’s surely off?!
Personally, that elemental pleasure evaporated the moment they've shown the replay and I've realized that we've scored an undeserved goal thanks for a monumental refereeing feck up. You keep projecting your own perception on everyone... saying that it's a bizarre take to not enjoy a football match being decided by a referee's incompetence just because you did.
Also, a VAR check doesn't stop the celebrations for 95% of goals. You just remember the remaining 5% way more vividly.
Jesus Christ, really?!? So weird. I don’t even think it is a monumental feck up. Look at the still images people are sharing. It’s actually an extremely close call. Not that I give a flying feck. It wasn’t flagged offside so it wasn’t offside. Which is how football has worked for hundreds of years, before this VAR nonsense was foisted on us.
Yep. I felt relieved that we've got away with it (the game, not the decision), but overall it was simply extremely frustrating. Because I do remember how it feels to be on the other side.
I don’t even think it is a monumental feck up. Look at the still images people are sharing. It’s actually an extremely close call. Not that I give a flying feck. It wasn’t flagged offside so it wasn’t offside. Which is how football has worked for hundreds of years, before this VAR nonsense was foisted on us.
And again — if people have different opinion than you, it's "bizarre takes" or "so weird". Nice.
well onside
I'm all for VAR if they implemented it correctly but winning a game with a goal that probably should have been ruled out is all the more enjoyable for me. I thought it was feckin hilarious.
This.
I don't recall a media outcry saying how we were robbed when Middlesbrough knocked us out with a ridiculous handball goal at Old Trafford a few years ago.
It's definitely personal preference. I don't think the standard has worsened, I was tearing my hair out pre VAR by the basic errors that were being made every week.
They're using it so badly that it isn't improving the decision making while also ruining other aspects so I do agree in it's current guise, it's a net loss.
I'd rather have VAR with competent people in charge than no VAR, but no VAR is better than referees being afraid to call out their colleagues on the pitch.